I thought gbp offered Robert Guerrero too Tim Bradley, but it fell apart cause Top Rank wanted a rematch clause and gbp wanted it straight up? I remember reading that but i don't know if that was true.
you dont buy ppvs because of undercard fights, you buy it because of the main event.
you bought canelo floyd because canelo is the next big thing in mexican boxing and the fact that he was going up against floyd.
lol at a mexican buying it for lucas garcia.
come on dude.
Yes this is true, in the short term. Long term will hurt Top Rank cause when people first buy the ppv, they buy for the main event but assumed a world class undercard as it was a major boxing event, with a world renowned promoter. Expectations are high, and since Top Rank isn't delivering time and time again is going hurt they brand. Now they going be branded as a low quality event with only one fight worth watching even when they do put on good fights cause they hurt their own rep. Top Rank needs to up their lead in bout, then the rest of the card would be fine and fall in place, a Mikey Garcia bout would be perfect lead in bout. Top Rank does have the fighters to put on good cards, they just don't do it.
Rigo just in a bad division, he would have to chase money fights for people to get interested. Andre Ward gets a pass cause he american and in a weight class american's like. The boxing heavyweight champion of the world can't get on HBO or Showtime, if people don't speak up for that then why expect it for rigo?
Neo nazi have gain a few seats of power too my understanding, the first motion of the new government was to ban speaking russian, good thing it failed.
I think the match making is fine, on paper wasn't a bad card. Juanma vs De Leon was a good match up, see how far Juanma fell. De Leon seems to get more aggressive against Juanma, didn't take as many risk against someone like Broner. Was a good fight while it lasted but Juanma does make good fights. Garcia vs Herrera turned out to be a tougher fight then expected, as a match maker these things happen. Wasn't a great fight, Herrera just made Garcia look very bad but gbp take alot of risk with their fighters. Wilder vs Scott was disappointing, nothing gbp and Wilder did, Scott just didn't bring it. On paper made sense a baby step up but Scott made it too easy for Wilder so as a step up didn't help him any. Wilder might be a tough guy to develop slowly, they might have to risk him before they think he's ready cause fringe contenders can't test him.
Again, Mayweather puts up american heavyweight numbers. Dead american heavyweight division, where did all the ppv sales Holyfield and Tyson sold go? They went to Mayweather, he puts up heavyweight numbers not walterweight numbers. As far as Pacquiao, sounds to me like good numbers still. Top Rank just needs to do a better job is all, and they need to stack Pacquiao undercard to show customers a great event from start to finish so when people buy any Top Rank ppv they won't have to look at who's fighting they can trust it will be world class like a Mayweather event. You know they putting the best card they can without worrying about who fighting.
I agree but you also have to factor in PED's for boxers performing better at old age than they should. That combined with their experience advanage spells trouble for the young lions.
Agree with this, past time aging fighter experience vs young fighter aggression. Now with ped's experience fighters keep their energy and their skill and experience is just too much for young fighters to overcome.
Could Floyd be on PED's sure as anybody could; but his performances haven't been out the ordinary to make me say wow he may be juicing; his last couple of fights you can see him visibly tired in the late rds; his reflexes are a bit off also he's def not punching any harder. Martinez started boxing late which is why his prime lasted longer. Floyd takes care of himself better in between fights better than most boxers in history.
I disagree, i see lots of things going on in boxing that isn't ordinary. I have stated this before, too many veteran are still pfp. If it was a single case of Floyd himself i could buy that but its not. pfp list is full of fighters in other era's would have been retired already, hw division is ruled by veteran fighters also, which again i have no problem with that just we need to ask these governing bodies what the purpose of these testing. To protect fighters from other fighters or them selfs? If its to protect fighters from other fighters makes fighters go natural, no shakes, no nothing cause why would it be ok to achieve the same results if done in a differnt way, the other fighter still going take that beating. If its against them self, let them take what they want its their life. The system as it is doesn't make alot of sence, your consider clean if you test 400% or less to normal levels, some places more.
I voted yes, I didn't believe he was justified when this first started but in hindsight i changed my mind. Every Arum story i see now is shady with others he is dealing with trying to get proof of financial numbers cause they for whatever reason believe given numbers are inaccurate and Arum only gives them hand written receipts of all financial figures they ask for and no direct receipts. I can't blame fault anyone not wanting to deal with a person like that, whom you can't trust handling tens of millions of dollars for an event that a Mayweather, Pacquiao fight would generate.
Rules changes, need to make fights more exciting and stop letting fighters kill large parts of rounds holding and/or moving and just waiting. That will turn viewers off and kill any chance of the sport making back main stream. Scoring, has to be addressed also think the close scoring too shady and unclear how fights are scored. Also hate when some one sided fights go too long, fight just drags cause mostly losing fighter just wants to make it too the end and fighter winning takes fewer risk. I don't know when the last rule changes were made but sports always try to improve their product, time boxing did the same.
http://rightcrossentertainment.com/home/golden-boy-sues-top-rank-over-pacquiao-fights/ I don't know what ever came of this but gbp felt Top Rank was stealing from them so they stopped working together. Almost sounds like manny's tax problem story, hand written numbers. Keep in mind Shelly Finkle was on Manny's team, neff said.
I agree that broner will be back stronger.
He showed heart in this fight and great recovery skills.
I actually voted maidana ud in a forum poll . Should have bet on it...was 5/1 in uk.
Agree with this post, fight was almost as i expected only thing i thought wrong on was that Broner would be a little more active then he was. I picked Maidana by ko in that poll cause i was uncertain of Broner would react to being hurt. He react well, got talent, skill, now he has to pick up the activity and control the temple better then he did. He showed how strong he was but looked at times he depended on it too much, puts too much power in all his shots which is why likely is activity drops. Broner vs Berto? Seems like a match up Golden Boy would do they like to put tough fights together. Winner right back in the mix.
hbo needs to put on fights and get out of the promoting fighters business. How long is Martinez going take tune ups cause Dibella keeps feeding us excuses? How long do they have to build GGG up till they feed him to Martinez, is what im assuming they plan was from the start since Martinez needed an opponent to fulfill a contract they already give him and then they didn't know what to do with him i guess? Thats the kinda thing that got hbo in trouble, just make good fights forget about building fights that may never happen.
In the winners, whats so bad about making the best fights? I like the match making in gbp, even the idea they came up with top rank didn't sound too bad. Trading fighters on a one fight bases to make fights happen was at least a try to make a solution.
Every Wladimir fight should be on HBO, he's the number one heavyweight in Boxing.
Agreed, i don't like Klitschko's fights but he is the HW champ. The most important division in boxing. The young and comers should get alot more play on hbo, a few fights to be made even now without the exposure. Where Don King when you need him lol
Because every time that Rigo fights in Miami he sells at least 2,500 tickets on his own.
Any truth to this?
I would expect that to be true, Travis Kauffman sells at least that here in his hometown.
Floyd was a technically skilled boxer and did not take many chances and was not very exciting to watch. Floyd did not become a household name until he beat Oscar. Floyd was arguably the number 1 p4p fighter in the world for a while before people took notice. Floyds style is a little more entertaining now because he stands in the pocket more but early on his style was unappealing to most.
Rigondeaux can just keep winning but it will take him a long time to really establish a fan base unless your a fan of master boxing. Floyd boastful personality helped his career a lot and then all of suddenly people started tuning in to see him lose.
? Rigo was like an early Mayweather? Not even close, Mayweather was exciting pre-Oscar.
I was predicting Broner by wide UD, but now I'm thinking Broner by stoppage.
Lawrence Cole is working the fight, and he often stops fights early. Maidana is struggling to make weight, so he'll be drained and weakened.
Didn't realize Maidana had a weight problem, hopefully he will be 100% im expecting a shootout. I pick Maidana by ko cause his experience of fighting hurt, i feel broner can hurt and ko Maidana just unsure how he will react to being hurt himself cause i think its going be power shot fest that both will be very skillfull, expecting both too get rocked. Calling fight of the night
I give respect to the UFC, yes they can't compete with gbp and top rank but at least they don't have to beg networks to buy fights like Lou Dibella. Which is why i like gbp and top rank also cause like the ufc if a network decided not to buy a fight they have the resources to run the show on their own.
Im not a big Floyd fan, but this thing about Floyd needing a opponent to draw is reaching. Yes its a much bigger fight to have two big named fighters fight each other, but less not pretend that Floyd not a draw. With the death of the american heavyweight division, guess where that american market that use to go to Holyfield and Tyson went? To put it simply, Floyd is treated as the heavyweight champion of the world. Thats why he put numbers up.
Yes, who else would he fight? Khan's a named fighter good skills and speed that will trouble Floyd for a few rounds till his experience takes over the fight. I think Khan will look good till Floyd catches him and knocks him out.
Rigodeaux is a top fighter but seems this Rigodeaux and hbo thing been getting overblown. Why does hbo stance surprise anyone on Rigodeaux? They done it too the Klitschko's in the most important division in boxing for the same reason i guess but i do remember somewhat about not fighting in the states also. As the ts suggested which i think is likely true, being at a higher weight division would help Rigo but with his style could end up like the Klitschko's anyways.