How big this loophole in USADA contract with Floyd and Golden Boy?

Oh yea. In the NBA circles its well known they juice. The attitude is, less injuries and why bother with the controversy? But the testing protocols in the NBA are designed so the players won't be caught. The NFL union blocked testing for human growth hormone. So HGH isn't even tested for in NFL. That shows you how easy it is to juice in these sports. These sports don't want to ruin their numbers, lose money. The people who run the sports, are fine with their athletes juicing. They tacitly endorse it. But this is unacceptable in boxing. But, it's rife in the NBA too. Problem is, in boxing, the motivations for juicing are just higher than they are in any other sport, and the testing in boxing is a bigger joke than it is in NBA or NFL. Tennis, cycling, and swimming are instituting biological passports, this is a cost effective and actually effective way of knowing what athletes have been putting in their bodies. In boxing, many times, you only get one shot. And you're trying to knock somebodies head off for 12 rounds. You're not throwing a ball into a hoop. It's so much more important that congress cleans up boxing, rather than effing cycling or baseball. I mean, poor Paul Williams, getting brutally KOed by a 37 year old guy, who is insanely fast and strong. This is dangerous stuff. But because it's a sport watched and dominated by varying degrees of brown people, congress won't do anything. Seriously! Poor Paul Williams! Known for having a solid chin, gets KO'd like he has a glass jaw with one shot. He got KO'd so brutally, he nearly died. His eyes had that look of death or an NDE (near-death experience). And all because of a guy who suddenly has new found power he's never exhibited before. And few even bat an eye. They just cheer! Same with Matthysee. None batted an eye at the foes he dropped with one punch. Then he gets randomly drug tested and suddenly his opponent doesn't fall to pieces like bowling pins anymore. Pacquaio nearly died in that ring too. Being that he was so popular and elite, if he had died, testing in boxing would have changed completely. And that's what it's going to take unfortunately. Someone famous catching a funeral. The NFL is funny. I mean, you got guys like Adrien Peterson suffering big time ACL injury and coming back less than a year later performing better than ever! Winning an MVP! :lol1: Impossible without PEDs! No way you recovering like that, and that fast! So yeah, I agree alot with what you said. There is too much money involved, so they look the other way. And the NBA plays so many games, all the practice, all the traveling, it's so much wear and tear on the body. I don't blame them for juicing. NSAC's random drug testing for Marquez vs. Bradley included a biological passport. So in a way that's a small step in the right direction. That thing needs to be included all across the board though for most of the fighters. Too bad though it's going to take death for this to happen.

If a year round random drug testing is a complete joke to you what else you can say about Floyd 2 months OST? At least in year round there is a higher chance you will be caught and exposed to the public. Year-round testing is useless because there are no penalties aka no consequence, for testing positive outside of competition. There are only penalties for testing IN-competition. Secondly, the purpose of year-round testing is to protect the safety of BOTH fighters. Nonito Donaire is doing year-round testing, but his opponents are NOT. So Donaire's opponents are protected, but Donaire himself is NOT protected from his opponents. So his health is in more danger than his opponents. How retarded is that? It is extremely retarded to protect your opponent, while you are unprotected from your opponent. For year-round testing to be useful and not useless, it has to be applied practically all across the board, with the majority of fighters. And there has to be very strict penalties for positive results whether they are in-competition or out-of-competition. One year suspensions, two year suspensions, etc.

Let's keep digging up these rumors that no one reputable has ever run with guys. It holds about as much weight as the JMM and Manny rumors. It doesn't mean ****. If they've seen the contract show us it, just snap a pic...if not I can make up anything I want and claim it as gospel but with zero proof it's all nonsense. Are boxers juicing? I'm going to say yes, it's easy not to get caught especially if you know what they test for. Athletes in all sports are on gear...it is what it is, they should just make it legal and then that way everyone's clear across the board what they're getting into. Make it like bodybuilding, you can have a champion and a natural champion if they want to go that route...who doesn't love more belts?

You've brought up so many points it ain't even funny. Many things I've said here from time to time. For instance, year-round random drug testing. It is a complete joke because if any of these boxers test positive when they are out of competition, there will be no penalties! So what is the point? And even when they are caught in-competition, the penalty is what, a couple months? Joke! And many do not see the very obvious corruption of boxing. They are so blinded that they think it's a coincidence convicted PED peddlers like Memo Heredia and Victor Conte come running into boxing -- out of all the sports out there! I think the NBA has gone under the radar for PEDs too. Very under the radar. Their testing is a complete joke too. Worse than boxing I think actually. If a year round random drug testing is a complete joke to you what else you can say about Floyd 2 months OST? At least in year round there is a higher chance you will be caught and exposed to the public.

Lol man this site is full of loons. Not to say Floyd isn't doping because honestly I don't know but this **** ain't evidence. Its embarassnebt for the idiots who run with it.

Theres too much money involved for the truth to come out and cancel the fight. Al Haymon probably gave USADA $10+ million for them to keep there mouth shut Alot of floyd's fighters like Bey, Love, etc have also tested positive but those fights weren't big money fights so Al Haymon was like screw it

I'll say this again do I think Floyd is capable and has the ego to take PED he sure does. But there certain that doesn't add up. Why did no reputible company run with this story from ESPN OTL,USA Today,60 minutes,Sports Illustrated etc. It's not like Floyd is a media darling that people will protect most boxing writers can't stand the guy. You honestly think if there was a smoking gun Chris Mannix or Dan Rafeal wouldn't jump at that oppurtinity. Golden Boy or Floyd Mayweather doesn't have enough money to USADA let him test positive and go thru a Congressional hearing and get there company disbanded ala Balco nobody likes him that much to put there company on the line.

Homie, Floyd trains round the clock. Non stop. Put 2 and 2 together. Him training alot equals PED use? You take PED's to lessen the burden of training hard not rachet it up.

Floyd only needs to do is show the contract betweem him, USADA and Golden Boy but they didn't.

Peterson was stripped on one of his belts, right away. I think the IBF. Peterson never lost his belt, that's why him and Lucas fought at a catch weight. So that Lucas wouldn't lose his WBC ranking and a non unification bout was able to get done.

OK, so who founded VADA? Let me hear it. Publicly, Maraget Goodman is the Founder. But privately and silently, it is Victor Conte. Conte and Goodman cannot admit this though, even though Conte does it by mistake from time to time on Twitter.

On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug. More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights). :pat::pat::pat:

floyd the roided fraud was suspected of using peds and to keep away from public scrutiny he uses a loophole to continue his cheating ways. this is the same guy that started a crusade to clean not only boxing but all of sports of peds. what i don't understand now is how come floydiots still try to defend this roided fraud? :usa2:

Yea, you're right. It's not a purely new phenomena, but they have new variants on PEDs, that aren't that new anymore really. In boxing all they do is check if you've used the most basic anabolic steroids within the last 2-3 weeks from fight night. That is why boxers categorically know they will not get caught; this is exactly what used to happen in the Olympics prior to 2004. Everyone knew the testing window. And if they do get caught, no one will care. What happened to Peterson, Berto, and Rios for getting caught. Absolutely nothing. If anything, Peterson has been rewarded. He got to keep his belt. Lost his next fight, still kept his belt. And the win. And he gets signed by the biggest promoters in boxing. The professional boxing community is endorsing PED use with a huge stamp, and a lot of these guys don't come from money. So when everything you hold dear is on the line, and you think your opponent is cheating, and this is your ONLY shot at real money, why wouldn't you use PEDs? Every single one of us would use PEDs in this situation. There are the few fighters with sensational amateur pedigrees who start to tapper off when they reach 30, that I believe probably didn't use PEDs. Almost everyone in cycling and running was on peds, over 90%. In god damned cycling! In boxing the incentive to juice is waaaaaaay higher. The reason this happens is, because boxing is minority sport, so the congress doesn't give a $h!t like they did in baseball, or cycling, where the audience is uniformly white. You've brought up so many points it ain't even funny. Many things I've said here from time to time. For instance, year-round random drug testing. It is a complete joke because if any of these boxers test positive when they are out of competition, there will be no penalties! So what is the point? And even when they are caught in-competition, the penalty is what, a couple months? Joke! And many do not see the very obvious corruption of boxing. They are so blinded that they think it's a coincidence convicted PED peddlers like Memo Heredia and Victor Conte come running into boxing -- out of all the sports out there! I think the NBA has gone under the radar for PEDs too. Very under the radar. Their testing is a complete joke too. Worse than boxing I think actually.

Ether? :lol1: I've already shown enough. The fact is, the first time anyone ever heard of VADA publicly is through Victor Conte. Not Margaret Goodman. This is a fact. Conte tries to deny his VADA associations, but he has to in order for VADA to be taken seriously. Because if it was really known that he was heavily involved, their reputation would've been dead before it could take off. Goodman has to deny it too, just like she had to deny that Rios peed into a glass. Even though there is footage out there showing Rios taking pisses near dirty boxing rings in public, in front of media and strangers. Testers not even using gloves when they are about to take his blood. Lots of unprofessionalism. And this is not to say that Rios isn't guilty as sin. OK, so who founded VADA? Let me hear it.

Could Floyd be on PED's sure as anybody could; but his performances haven't been out the ordinary to make me say wow he may be juicing; his last couple of fights you can see him visibly tired in the late rds; his reflexes are a bit off also he's def not punching any harder. Martinez started boxing late which is why his prime lasted longer. Floyd takes care of himself better in between fights better than most boxers in history. I disagree, i see lots of things going on in boxing that isn't ordinary. I have stated this before, too many veteran are still pfp. If it was a single case of Floyd himself i could buy that but its not. pfp list is full of fighters in other era's would have been retired already, hw division is ruled by veteran fighters also, which again i have no problem with that just we need to ask these governing bodies what the purpose of these testing. To protect fighters from other fighters or them selfs? If its to protect fighters from other fighters makes fighters go natural, no shakes, no nothing cause why would it be ok to achieve the same results if done in a differnt way, the other fighter still going take that beating. If its against them self, let them take what they want its their life. The system as it is doesn't make alot of sence, your consider clean if you test 400% or less to normal levels, some places more.

Yea, you're right. It's not a purely new phenomena, but they have new variants on PEDs, that aren't that new anymore really. In boxing all they do is check if you've used the most basic anabolic steroids within the last 2-3 weeks from fight night. That is why boxers categorically know they will not get caught; this is exactly what used to happen in the Olympics prior to 2004. Everyone knew the testing window. And if they do get caught, no one will care. What happened to Peterson, Berto, and Rios for getting caught. Absolutely nothing. If anything, Peterson has been rewarded. He got to keep his belt. Lost his next fight, still kept his belt. And the win. And he gets signed by the biggest promoters in boxing. The professional boxing community is endorsing PED use with a huge stamp, and a lot of these guys don't come from money. So when everything you hold dear is on the line, and you think your opponent is cheating, and this is your ONLY shot at real money, why wouldn't you use PEDs? Every single one of us would use PEDs in this situation. There are the few fighters with sensational amateur pedigrees who start to tapper off when they reach 30, that I believe probably didn't use PEDs. Almost everyone in cycling and running was on peds, over 90%. In god damned cycling! In boxing the incentive to juice is waaaaaaay higher. The reason this happens is, because boxing is minority sport, so the congress doesn't give a $h!t like they did in baseball, or cycling, where the audience is uniformly white. Peterson was stripped on one of his belts, right away. I think the IBF.

In school they taught us look for keywords in phrases; and the keyword in all of this is rumor I think that the "key-words" are "...drug-testing community..." These people talk to one another, know each other well, and exchange little bits of info. not normally know to the "outside world". But... they are human beings.... Secrets are very rarely completely kept when the human factor is involved.

Dude, stop making me dish out ETHER. http://www.boxingscene.com/victor-conte-clarifies-association-with-vada--71433 All you have to do is Google this stuff. You're too hard headed, boy. I'm not really tripping over some small stuff, but it's the principle in the matter. Just admit that you were wrong, and we can go on like nothing happened. Ether? :lol1: I've already shown enough. The fact is, the first time anyone ever heard of VADA publicly is through Victor Conte. Not Margaret Goodman. This is a fact. Conte tries to deny his VADA associations, but he has to in order for VADA to be taken seriously. Because if it was really known that he was heavily involved, their reputation would've been dead before it could take off. Goodman has to deny it too, just like she had to deny that Rios peed into a glass. Even though there is footage out there showing Rios taking pisses near dirty boxing rings in public, in front of media and strangers. Testers not even using gloves when they are about to take his blood. Lots of unprofessionalism. And this is not to say that Rios isn't guilty as sin.

It's self-explanatory. If he wasn't running things, he couldn't just sponsor basically any athlete he wants. He couldn't just tell Memo 'yeah I'll consider Marquez for sponsorship for year-round testing.' :lol1: Unless you think Conte independently does charity work, like a philanthropist. Dude, stop making me dish out ETHER. http://www.boxingscene.com/victor-conte-clarifies-association-with-vada--71433 All you have to do is Google this stuff. You're too hard headed, boy. I'm not really tripping over some small stuff, but it's the principle in the matter. Just admit that you were wrong, and we can go on like nothing happened.