Rigondeaux= most talanted fighter ever?

No way to know dude, unless one has seen every single fighter to ever step foot in the ring.

No way,,, pernell was better, and so is floyd... the dude has 2 top level wins,, 1 great win vs donaire, 1 solid win over agebako.. He needs alot more top level wins to compare to floyd and pernel and other great fighters

Super skills with high aptitude and a fantastic conditioned athlete! He will not go down as the total package in the pros because he brings a amatuer mentality to the pros! This could change if he's hungry enough but its difficult to renew a mental approach to the sport after so many years. Working cleanly for 3 rounds is a completely different approach then getting down to the soul over 10 rounds! I do think its in him, I do see a mean streak in his eyes but theres conflict to change into a finisher! Ray.

there's really nothing misleading about it. rigondeaux spent a ton of extra time in the amateurs, and it will cut into his professional accomplishments. it's a shame. he spent much of his prime in the amateurs. as i outlined in my post, the great professionals have historically fought in the amateurs as kids / very young men. His prime was wasted when he was banned from competing in boxing. Not wasting time in the amateurs. He couldn't fight for 2 or so years. He won his 2nd gold in 2004. If he successfully defected he would have turned pro in his mid-20s and hit the ground running. He would have been in the same age range as Lomachenko, Gary Russell and Errol Spence except the latter two are being moved a lot slower. Hell, Lomachenko in 2 fights is fighting stronger competition than all of he U.S. Olympians combined. My point is, there is still the opportunity to win 2 gold medals, have a long amateur career and still maximize your potential at the pro level. If your good, you can get put on the fast track and fight world class opposition in less than 10 fights.

That's a misleading statement. He was 24 years old when he won his second gold medal. He tried to defect but was caught and was banned from boxing ever again in Cuba. So his amateur accomplishments didn't prevent him from becoming a great pro. His inability to turn pro after winning his second gold medal is what will prevent him. If he was able to defect successfully he would have turned pro younger like Lomachenko who is 25 right now. there's really nothing misleading about it. rigondeaux spent a ton of extra time in the amateurs, and it will cut into his professional accomplishments. it's a shame. he spent much of his prime in the amateurs. as i outlined in my post, the great professionals have historically fought in the amateurs as kids / very young men.

Totally agree with this and your previous post. Sidenote: I can look at that chic bouncing in that sig forever.

Will y'all stop with this ****? Damn. Agreed, also rigo is a baby weight so he will never get that kind of props.

historically, amateurs have turned professional long before rigondeaux did. you don't think muhammad ali would ahve won another gold medal if he stuck around for the 64 olympics? 68? hell, in '67 ali was the best HW ever. you think he's losing to amateurs at that age? what rigondeaux has accomplished as an amateur will keep him from accomplishing at the top as a professional. the man is at least 33 years old. do not expect rigondeaux to go down as a great professional in the same sense that he is a great amateur. That's a misleading statement. He was 24 years old when he won his second gold medal. He tried to defect but was caught and was banned from boxing ever again in Cuba. So his amateur accomplishments didn't prevent him from becoming a great pro. His inability to turn pro after winning his second gold medal is what will prevent him. If he was able to defect successfully he would have turned pro younger like Lomachenko who is 25 right now.

Wtf do you mean raw talent? He was born in a communist country and lived in a boxing school with dozens upon dozens of other talent. Sure he had talent, but being well schooled was a huge factor. Raw talent is something like Manny Pacquiao, some small asian kid who turned pro at 16 and somehow got to become named P4P #1 who is critically acclaimed of only being a three-punch combo one trick pony as well as being in the same era as another P4P #1 in the same weight class who some argue that he is the greatest (defensive) fighter of all time. great post. alot of people dont realize that. or dont want to acknowledge that.

and no, rigondeaux is a highly schooled boxer. he's a talented guy, but you fanboys are something else. rigondeaux's popularity / fanboy appeal comes from the fact that he's an underdog, not well paid, and not a darling of the promotors and networks. if this guy were floyd mayweather you'd all be sh#tting on him.

Mention somebody who has won 2 olympic gold medals and has achieved p4p greatness as a pro them 2 sh*ts are not easy winning 2 gold medals usually would mean too old to adjust to being pro anyways.Go for it big boy mention one ill wait there are plenty of champs who started as olympians medalists but not 2 time gold level and with the ATG career Rigo has had as an amateur is the combination of both things that would be pretty unique to him if he keeps it up . That being said the guy says in every fight he is trying to improve as a pro he is the first one to say he don't got the pro sh*t figured out yet. I think this Floyds comparison in the pro game at 13 fights unified p4p champ or not are pretty stupid. I REPEAT only 13 frikking fights and people wanna compare..... thats like comparing Floyd to Rigondeaux as an amateur in his Olympic qualifiers. historically, amateurs have turned professional long before rigondeaux did. you don't think muhammad ali would ahve won another gold medal if he stuck around for the 64 olympics? 68? hell, in '67 ali was the best HW ever. you think he's losing to amateurs at that age? what rigondeaux has accomplished as an amateur will keep him from accomplishing at the top as a professional. the man is at least 33 years old. do not expect rigondeaux to go down as a great professional in the same sense that he is a great amateur.

in terms of raw talent im willing to say Rigo>Floyd..... in absolute terms, the best? Will y'all stop with this ****? Damn.

Nope and Mayweather has shown he's a much more versatile fighter, both Offensively and defensively. Rigo is my dude, but I have to agree. Rigo balance, movement and footwork are ballerina like lol...I think that's why us purists fall in love with Rigo...but when you really get down to it, Mayweather's versatility is on another level from Rigo...but Rigo's working on developing an inside game. Scary thought...

He's better than Mayweather that's all I have to say

I meant as in the guy who has had the greatest amateur career meaning 2 gold medals turns pro and becomes p4p as pro and dominates.Every body knows gold medalist have become atg pro's sh*t Ali won gold once. My meaning is nobody has ever been ATG amateur and Pro as-well ever. Only thing example i could give is imagine if like Laszlo Papp, Kindelan or Teofilo Stevenson had turned pro and had p4p caliber careers as pro's. That would have been some crazy sh*t tho I mean 3 gold medals thats just being a douche let other people win :rofl:. talking 2 golds you'd be hard pressed............

dude, what u said is hes gonna be the best crossover amatuer to pro boxer of all time. no matter how u look at it, he wont. now if u said he is the best amateur boxer of all time then sure. but as far as being the best crossover, no way. hes a great amateur, certainly one of the best of all time. but he is far from one of the greatest pros of all time. its lopsided. I meant as in the guy who has had the greatest amateur career meaning 2 gold medals turns pro and becomes p4p as pro and dominates.Every body knows gold medalist have become atg pro's sh*t Ali won gold once. My meaning is nobody has ever been ATG amateur and Pro as-well ever. Only thing example i could give is imagine if like Laszlo Papp, Kindelan or Teofilo Stevenson had turned pro and had p4p caliber careers as pro's. That would have been some crazy sh*t tho I mean 3 gold medals thats just being a douche let other people win :rofl:.

In terms of pure boxing talent... maybe. Certainly the best defensive fighter I've ever seen both in real life or on tape.

Yes he is the most talanted, but not the most talented. Many other fighters hold that title over him.

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Mention somebody who has won 2 olympic gold medals and has achieved p4p greatness as a pro them 2 sh*ts are not easy winning 2 gold medals usually would mean too old to adjust to being pro anyways.Go for it big boy mention one ill wait there are plenty of champs who started as olympians medalists but not 2 time gold level and with the ATG career Rigo has had as an amateur is the combination of both things that would be pretty unique to him if he keeps it up . That being said the guy says in every fight he is trying to improve as a pro he is the first one to say he don't got the pro sh*t figured out yet. I think this Floyds comparison in the pro game at 13 fights unified p4p champ or not are pretty stupid. I REPEAT only 13 frikking fights and people wanna compare..... thats like comparing Floyd to Rigondeaux as an amateur in his Olympic qualifiers. dude, what u said is hes gonna be the best crossover amatuer to pro boxer of all time. no matter how u look at it, he wont. now if u said he is the best amateur boxer of all time then sure. but as far as being the best crossover, no way. hes a great amateur, certainly one of the best of all time. but he is far from one of the greatest pros of all time. its lopsided.