I think the circumstances are much different.
Bradley is more skilled than Maidana and will go on to win titles and make more money. He did beat JMM after the Pac fight, and other than Pac or Mayweather, he will be favored against many other top WW.
Marcos will more than likely cash out against other 2nd tier fighters, which he will lose and fade into oblivion.
I think it is more a product of Maidana's style than anything. Put Floyd in with another classically trained boxer and Mayweather will look other worldly like he did vs Canelo.
Maidana doesn't fight or throw punches from conventional angles. For a technician like Mayweather, this can throw you off your game when you aren't sure where the punches are coming from and you are risk adverse. This might be the reason why he won't fight Pac because Pac is a lefty with speed and an awkward style to boot.
When Mayweather goes to clinch, Maidana's hands are still free, "Stop, stop, stop!!!".
When Mayweather goes to clinch and punch, "Hands are free, fight out!!!"
I don't think they are tbh.
Danny Garcia probably has the best resume among potential candidates but he fights at 140 and we saw him struggle against a relatively unknown boxer in Mauricio Herrera.
Khan has a decent resume but his chin is **** and his level of opposition the last year or so is lacking.
Thurman looks to be the real deal but he hasn't fought a legitimate threat yet. Canelo got circles boxed around him. Other than GGG, I don't see any "dangerous" young guys out there.
Lucas thinks he wins in a rematch and feels Danny was lucky. Matthysse contemplated retirement after every loss. I think he was closest to doing i after Devon. I think it was more of him wodering if he wants it or not and not so much him thinking he cant beat anyone (thought we'll never know). Matthysse is clearly elite at the class it's really him and Danny then there's everyone else. Danny vs Lucas is still a 50/50 fight depending on the ref so lets not act like Herrera "beating" Danny changes that either. Styles make fights and the only 2 dudes who I see as potentially being problems or right there with Danny and Lucas are Algieri and Postol. Broner is a nice wild card too. 140 is still very much strong but the class is Danny and Lucas.
I don't question whether Lucas is elite. He has obviously proven that but what Lucas hasn't proven, is that against elite competition, can he win a boxing match against more rugged opposition that has the size to take his punch and skills to boot?
Given that he is usually the 'B' side in just about any fight, he will have a hard time winning decisions against anyone with a name that he cannot put on the canvas for and extended amount of time. I am certain Lucas realizes this. It's not a question of whether he can compete (which he obviously can), it's a questions of whether not he can win.
He is definitely a blood and guts warrior. He could have quit at any time during the Maidana bout after getting rocked numerous times but he always came back swinging like a G.
Broner may not be the most talented guy out there but you can't question his heart. I got mad respect for Broner after that fight.
Garcia is solid.
What was telling is how Lucas contemplated retirement following that loss.
The only conclusion one could derive from this would be that Lucas knows how solid Danny was and contemplated whether or not he could actually beat him, or anyone else at the elite level in or around the weight class.
That was disgusting but you can't blame Garcia for it. Blame his management, Garcia has proven that he is willing to fight who ever they put in front of him.
He put the lights out against Khan and fought Lucas when no one else would.
That is a dumb question. You don't perform at a championship level for over 17 years and not have heart.
Corley rocked him, Mosley rocked him and Maidana buzzed him last fight as well. Floyd has tons of heart in the ring. Outside the ring is questionable. Cotto fought him tough as well and he dug down deep to win that one late. GTFOH with that *****!
I have a brother that stroked out and he hasn't left the bed since. It's been 3 years. He doesn't move or talk and he can only open his eyes but the doctors have confirmed he cannot see. As hard as the video is to watch, it is good to see he is able to sit up and display some brain activity and motor skills. Hopefully he continues to improve. Thanks for sharing.
Srs... Mayweather doesn't face guys who match him for height and reach let alone guys who tower over him...
Algieri is a fleet footed slickster master boxer with a tremendous gas tank... when is the last time he faced one of those?
Algieri would toy with Mayweather..
You can't be serious? Algieri isn't on Pac or FMJ level. Dude will get murked by either one. A master boxer lol! Ruslan makes my grandmother look like a master boxer with his face first defense. GTFOH with that sheet!
Based on resume you have to go with Bradley. He has done better against top flight competition. Algeri is somewhat unknown and he comes into most fights with physical advantages of height, reach and weight over most of his competition at 140 lbs. Basically a bigger guy (who has no power) cutting weight to level the playing field.
Surprisingly a solid PPV card. In a way i think people got their money's worth tonight.
My take:
-Cotto looked real good no matter what version of Sergio he was fighting. The left hook was vicious and those right hands looked very sharp.
-Martinez after round 3 was done. It was almost hard to watch because he had clearly shot legs and those are his weapons. Cotto cut the ring very well, but it was clear that Martinez right knee wasn't keeping up with him
-Martinez is all class. damn it! it sucked seeing him without his legs. I'm a huge fan still and he deserves to be in the HOF in the future.
-I truly believe Cotto could beat some quality opponents. Winner of Canelo-Lara would be great and a showdown with GGG would really seal his legitimacy as THE MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP!
-As a Puerto Rican, its truly awesome seeing a countryman become a 4th division champion and bring yet another piece of history back to the Island.
Your thoughts?
Cotto looks like a totally different fighter under Roach.
He uses a combination of boxing off the back foot, setting traps using angles and going totally offensive to keep his opponents off balance. When he goes offensive, he really sits down on that left hook and throws it with bad intentions to the body and head.
I think more than anything Sergio has been fighting slow come forward fighters that made him look like a superstar.
Sergio's knee was fine. I think Sergio was shocked by Cotto's speed. When Cotto came up in weight, he was actually faster than Martinez, that speed more than anything else befuddled Sergio and totally took him out of his game. Almost the same thing as what oscar experienced when he fought Pac. The speed was too much to overcome.
Joe Calzaghe was a joke. He waited till the best of his era were well past it to fight them.
Some might compare him to Mayweather in his safety first style and shrewd business acumen which valued being undefeated over fighting the best.
It wouldn't go up in my opinion. Maidana is a limited brawler who has been out boxed on more than one occasion. Anyone who stands in front of him is putting themselves in harms way. Floyd could have easily boxed his way to a shut out vs Marcos but chose to fight the more fan friendly fight, something a lot of people (myself included) didn't think he would do.
Mad love for Floyd on that but you've got nothing to prove to anyone champ!
Both are easily loop-holed. The IBF rule is 10 pounds (or is it %), but the weight is taken in the early morning of the fight. I do think that the fight last night had a limit, theres no way mike chose to weigh 153
I sort of disagree with fight time rehydration limits, fighters should be fully hydrated during fights
This is what I am talking about. All the talk about Mayweather (gloves) and how Martinez is calling Cotto a diva, makes you realize how stacked the deck is against the "B" side fighter.