I still think he owns guys like Thurman. It seems that everyone is jumping on the train for Floyd to fight Pac and stay away from the young hungry guys but I would still fear Pac way more than guys like Thurman and Garcia. I dont think a guy like Thurman stands any chance (unless Floyd slows even more) but the guy I saw last night still owns a guy like Keith, Khan, Garcia, Lucas, etc...
I don't think they are tbh.
Danny Garcia probably has the best resume among potential candidates but he fights at 140 and we saw him struggle against a relatively unknown boxer in Mauricio Herrera.
Khan has a decent resume but his chin is **** and his level of opposition the last year or so is lacking.
Thurman looks to be the real deal but he hasn't fought a legitimate threat yet. Canelo got circles boxed around him. Other than GGG, I don't see any "dangerous" young guys out there.
lol people on here go from one extreme to the other. A month ago Porter was the truth, now people are talking about him like he's Salka. Reactionary bunch.
Maidana better than porter...
Porter is a rugged customer, that gets by with physicality.. He will have a nice run in his youth but eventually he will be in the same club as samuel peter, jeff lacy, tavoris cloud
lol no he's not, Maidana is the better fighter and it's pretty obvious to see. It's not just the Brook fight one has to see, go look at the first Diaz meeting. Maidana has deceptive skills and a good jab, Porter just uses dumb aggression and athleticism with no thinking to try to bully fighters.
I've seen the first Diaz fight, had Porter winning 7-3. That was an off night and clearly not Porter at his best anyway, look what happened in the rematch.
But whatever, if that's what you think...
Porter already has a better resume than Maidana and he hasn't even been in the spot light for that long, he's still new on the scene. By the end of his career he will have achieved a lot more than Maidana in this sport.
Porter is definitely better than Maidana and he does have a good jab. Are you judging him based on the Brook fight alone?
His style isn't identical to Maidana's but they have similarities, Porter is just as aggressive but more skilled, much stronger physically, but doesn't hit as hard.
lol no he's not, Maidana is the better fighter and it's pretty obvious to see. It's not just the Brook fight one has to see, go look at the first Diaz meeting. Maidana has deceptive skills and a good jab, Porter just uses dumb aggression and athleticism with no thinking to try to bully fighters.
Floyds chin is very underrated... He has taken flush shots, and doesnt even blink.. there was the 3rd rd vs shane, but other than that, i have never seen him hurt, even when good punchers like maidana, cotto, castillo, zab, all landed on him, but it doesnt faze floyd...
Criminally underrated chin IMO
He was badly buzzed at the end of the 3rd yesterday, his legs froze. But yeah he has got a good chin.
Porter is NOT a better version of Maidana. Not even close. Porter's style is very different. Porter isn't even that awkward to begin with, nor is he very reckless and blatantly dirty. Porter is aggressive though. But don't mistake his aggressiveness for being a style equivalent of Maidana. Porter doesn't even have a good jab.
Porter is definitely better than Maidana and he does have a good jab. Are you judging him based on the Brook fight alone?
His style isn't identical to Maidana's but they have similarities, Porter is just as aggressive but more skilled, much stronger physically, but doesn't hit as hard.
Andrade and the Charlos would definitely cause Floyd big problems, especially Andrade. 6'1 southpaw with a jab, footwork and good punch output.
yeah, any legit 154 fighter with skills is gonna cause floyd problems..
True, true.
Luckily he has a very good chin.
Floyds chin is very underrated... He has taken flush shots, and doesnt even blink.. there was the 3rd rd vs shane, but other than that, i have never seen him hurt, even when good punchers like maidana, cotto, castillo, zab, all landed on him, but it doesnt faze floyd...
Criminally underrated chin IMO
Khans speed in both hand and feet, output and jab combined with Floyds age and level of decline is going to cause major problems for Floyd.
I really just can't see how it won't.
Khan will land the jab, a lot.
The jab, and also the combinations... Floyd hasnt see combinations with fast hands in a long time... And khan has some power, not a huge puncher but if he lands he can do damage...
If khan can stay composed, and not get sloppy, i think he can outpoint floyd
I think the one's with the best chance have already been beaten + Lara and Pacquiao. Canelo and Cotto are the two with the best chances and they already lost. After that I would put Lara and Pacquiao(From the one's he hasn't fought). I would actually put Lara first, then Canelo, Cotto/Pacquiao.
With Charlo's style, height and reach, he could pose some problems for Mayweather. The last time Floyd fought such tall fighters were Hernandez and Corrales, but Charlo's style is much different obviously. At 5' 11" and as young and quick as he is, and Floyd being short, smaller, aging, slower, Jermell Charlo could actually be the wildcard. Not like it would ever happen. I just see Charlo as more dangerous than Khan.
Andrade and the Charlos would definitely cause Floyd big problems, especially Andrade. 6'1 southpaw with a jab, footwork and good punch output.
Thurman likes to fight on the backfoot at the opponent's pace, he won't put Floyd under relentless pressure and it would be more of a boxing match, which obviously favours Floyd.
Porter and Khan have a good chance of beating Floyd.
Porter is a better version of Maidana, he's more athletic, physically stronger (therefore harder to clinch), has good footwork and can keep up with Floyd at least to some extent and has a good jab although he didn't show it against Brook.
Against Khan, I think Floyd would fight on the frontfoot and try to get on the inside and hurt Khan, but Khan with his speed and jab would definitely find Floyd. Floyd was getting hit and out-jabbed by Maidana in patches yesterday, he's slowed down and isn't the same fighter anymore.
Of course Pac can beat him as well but that fight's not gonna happen.
Porter is NOT a better version of Maidana. Not even close. Porter's style is very different. Porter isn't even that awkward to begin with, nor is he very reckless and blatantly dirty. Porter is aggressive though. But don't mistake his aggressiveness for being a style equivalent of Maidana. Porter doesn't even have a good jab.
Agree 100%.
I think Amir Khan has the best chance of beating Mayweather at this point.
That saddens me but that's how I feel.
I think the one's with the best chance have already been beaten + Lara and Pacquiao. Canelo and Cotto are the two with the best chances and they already lost. After that I would put Lara and Pacquiao(From the one's he hasn't fought). I would actually put Lara first, then Canelo, Cotto/Pacquiao.
With Charlo's style, height and reach, he could pose some problems for Mayweather. The last time Floyd fought such tall fighters were Hernandez and Corrales, but Charlo's style is much different obviously. At 5' 11" and as young and quick as he is, and Floyd being short, smaller, aging, slower, Jermell Charlo could actually be the wildcard. Not like it would ever happen. I just see Charlo as more dangerous than Khan.
Yeah i think your right.
Amir khan's handspeed and skill will cause floyd alot of problems, and i can see the fight looking alot like calzaghe-hopkins..
Khans speed in both hand and feet, output and jab combined with Floyds age and level of decline is going to cause major problems for Floyd.
I really just can't see how it won't.
Khan will land the jab, a lot.
I don't think he'll last as long as Hopkins because Floyd started fighting high level fights at a much younger age than Hopkins.
Some people laugh about Khan but I think his speed can be a problem for Mayweather at this stage.
True, he has been on the world class level since he was 20.. He might not be 49 looking to unify like hopkins, but i see similarities in their ring style and more importantly outside the ring, both hopkins and floyd are true professionals and keep in great shape year round..
And yes, khan is the biggest threat to floyd at the moment.. Thats a fascinating matchup, and look forward to it next may
Youth has it's advantages and right now, Thurman's 25/6 year old legs are FAR more fresher than Floyd's almost 38 year old legs. Plus, Thurman himself is not like any of Floyd's recent opponents so far (he's not slow, flat-footed, or have bad stamina) so this kind of fight would be very different for Floyd at this point.
Whenever I think Mayweather vs. Thurman, I think of Leonard vs. Norris for some reason.
There's really nobody I see beating Mayweather even now. However, I think he should focus on more established fighters to finish his career, guys like Pacquiao and Bradley for instance. Fighting a guy like Thurman, who has nothing to lose and everything to gain could end up being a disaster.
Thurman likes to fight on the backfoot at the opponent's pace, he won't put Floyd under relentless pressure and it would be more of a boxing match, which obviously favours Floyd.
Porter and Khan have a good chance of beating Floyd.
Porter is a better version of Maidana, he's more athletic, physically stronger (therefore harder to clinch), has good footwork and can keep up with Floyd at least to some extent and has a good jab although he didn't show it against Brook.
Against Khan, I think Floyd would fight on the frontfoot and try to get on the inside and hurt Khan, but Khan with his speed and jab would definitely find Floyd. Floyd was getting hit and out-jabbed by Maidana in patches yesterday, he's slowed down and isn't the same fighter anymore.
Of course Pac can beat him as well but that fight's not gonna happen.
Floyd is now fighting father time...
I think he can be successful for years to come, just like hopkins, but like hopkins i can see floyd losing to top young guys like taylor or dawson, and beating some "tailor-made" guys like pavlik, cloud, etc...
I don't think he'll last as long as Hopkins because Floyd started fighting high level fights at a much younger age than Hopkins.
Some people laugh about Khan but I think his speed can be a problem for Mayweather at this stage.
I agree. I just think Floyd is going to decline even more and it makes him vulnerable to big punchers.
I can see that, but i think floyd will be more like hopkins and less like roy jones..
I can see a 40 year old floyd, picking apart big punchers, but struggling with "boxers" like khan, manny, Devon, brook.. much like how hopkins struggles in his later years with guys like calzaghe, taylor, dawson