I see Floyd slowing down a lot, getting hit with shots he never got hit with, and missing shots he normally lands. He looked slower, more vulnerable at times and never put that finger print on the fight he normally does...His last 2 fights will be tough as i see a steep decline in him now. He won tonight clearly and i think the scorecards were to close..but he did not look like the Floyd i know
He will shut out Manny. Wont win a single round.
Yeah, especially since Maidanas bum ass did nothing to Floyd. Except for when he almost knocked floyd out at the end of the third round. Lol PAC would probably smoke Mayweather right about now.
He's fought lefties before and pacquiao isn't awkward just unique.
They weren't on the same level as Pacquiao.
As for this topic, it's pretty obvious Floyd has been declining for a while. Guerrero and Canelo just didn't have the style to show it but if Floyd failed to impress against somebody like Maidana, then you KNOW it's bad. Even Floyd implied this at the end of this fight.
However, I don't think he should retire at this moment. Two more fights shouldn't kill him and to retire now would just confirm even more what people have been thinking for a long time; he's afraid to lose. He's looked more vulnerable now than ever but he did still win both fights and it's not like they were anything like what a declining Hagler went through with Mugabi so I don't think he should retire now. He has enough to last two more fights (maybe even longer).
I see Floyd slowing down a lot, getting hit with shots he never got hit with, and missing shots he normally lands. He looked slower, more vulnerable at times and never put that finger print on the fight he normally does...His last 2 fights will be tough as i see a steep decline in him now. He won tonight clearly and i think the scorecards were to close..but he did not look like the Floyd i know
You only saying that cos floyd himself said he wasn't at his best loool Larry
There were times when i felt Maidana had him. At times it seemed Floyd was begging to be knocked out. I don't think he has that hunger anymore. I think he's, now, too comfortable being Floyd.
Honestly....the Floyd i saw tonight does not beat Manny
Damn. Props to you. He's certainly slowing down. He's still a great fighter, but it's just age catching up to him. He looks vulnerable in exchanges, and you get the feeling he's gonna get caught. He did last night. He was lucky it was the end of the round.
Forget about Floyd's legs, his hands are the main reason he hasn't looked all that great since after the Cotto fight. He can't really hurt his opponents anymore without damaging his own hands. He basically slap-punch his opponents now instead of hitting them with effective potshots as he once used to. I wouldn't be mad if he chooses to hang up the gloves after this fight, but if he still feel like he can fight two more times, then i wouldn't be mad at his decision to fight on.
Is Floyd way past his prime? Yes. Is he slower and easier to hit now? Yes. Do i think a fight with Manny would be competitive? Yes. Did Maidana's style had something to do with him not looked his best? Absolutely. I've said it before , some guys on here do get caught up in the moment too much after every fights. We've discussed about Floyd being shot since 2011, but he's still winning fights, although, he hasn't looked great in his last two fights.
He's almost 38 and fought twice against a guy whose style makes everyone uncomfortable. Weak era or not, Floyd is still sharper mentally and arguably physically than, Pernell Whitaker, Ray Leonard were at the age of 37. Manny is easier to catch on the way in, and he's not as physically strong to man-handle Floyd the Maidana did. Styles make fights, i still think a past prime Floyd still has enough gas in the tank to beat a past prime, Pacquiao.
Agreed. Maidana's style a lot tougher for Floyd and it's not even close. Floyd a decent sized favorite over Pacquiao and basically everybody else that's left.
Is Floyd way past his prime? Yes. Is he slower and easier to hit now? Yes. Do i think a fight with Manny would be competitive? Yes. Did Maidana's style had something to do with him not looked his best? Absolutely. I've said it before, some guys on here do get caught up in the moment too much after every fights. We've discussed about Floyd being shot since 2011, but he's still winning fights, although, he hasn't looked great in his last two fights.
He's almost 38 and fought twice against a guy whose style makes everyone uncomfortable. Weak era or not, Floyd is still sharper mentally and arguably physically than, Pernell Whitaker, Ray Leonard were at the age of 37. Manny is easier to catch on the way in, and he's not as physically strong to manhandle Floyd the way that Maidana did. Styles make fights, i still think a past prime Floyd still has enough gas in the tank to beat a past prime, Pacquiao.
All you have to do is look at Floyd hiding his face under the brim of that hat after the fight last night. His face was all lumped up and bruised, Maidana barely looked phased.
Floyd is fine. He is getting old for sure but he doesn't need to retire coming off a performance where he won atleast 9-10 rounds.
This is one fight where Floyd doesn't dominate all 12 rounds & people go absolutely berzerk & start suggesting retirement :smashfrea what the hell...
I see Floyd slowing down a lot, getting hit with shots he never got hit with, and missing shots he normally lands. He looked slower, more vulnerable at times and never put that finger print on the fight he normally does...His last 2 fights will be tough as i see a steep decline in him now. He won tonight clearly and i think the scorecards were to close..but he did not look like the Floyd i know
Even though you are the most hardcore floyd fan I know of, I knew you were a true boxing fan at heart.
people said the same exact thing, that maidana himself was tailormade, 12-0 etc
Maidana just lost 10-2 lol. To me the only one that can beat Floyd is a fighter that can beat him in the middle of the ring (ala Zab Judah) because that's where Floyd is best. Floyd fought the exact way you are supposed to fight Maidana, it wasn't exciting, but it was supremely affective.
The primary reason Floyd got hit as much and as cleanly as he did was because he was panicking. The truth is Floyd's defense was never anywhere near as good as it's been billed all these years. He's gotten nailed throughout his career with basic punches from basic fighters - when he isn't controlling distance like a track athlete. His agility and point guard-esque feet are the secret to his defense. He's incredibly average as a defensive fighter when he's stationary.
What!? Have you actually ever watched a Floyd fight? What you just said was ridiculously stupid.
Floyd fans want Floyd to retire to preserve his zero. Reality is Floyd could fight for years more, but at the expense of a loss or two isn't acceptable.
I want Floyd to consider retiring because he is a shell of his former self.
I have watched all 47 fights. Every last one. Floyd isn't even close to what he was just 5 years ago.
Manny's style has always been tailor made for Floyd. You don't beat Floyd fighting in the middle of the ring.
I do agree that punches that used to be several inches away from landing on him are now only an inch away from landing. That isn't a good thing. Punches that would never hit the old Floyd will soon land on the OLD Floyd.
people said the same exact thing, that maidana himself was tailormade, 12-0 etc
The primary reason Floyd got hit as much and as cleanly as he did was because he was panicking. The truth is Floyd's defense was never anywhere near as good as it's been billed all these years. He's gotten nailed throughout his career with basic punches from basic fighters - when he isn't controlling distance like a track athlete. His agility and point guard-esque feet are the secret to his defense. He's incredibly average as a defensive fighter when he's stationary.
Honestly....the Floyd i saw tonight does not beat Manny
Manny's style has always been tailor made for Floyd. You don't beat Floyd fighting in the middle of the ring.
I do agree that punches that used to be several inches away from landing on him are now only an inch away from landing. That isn't a good thing. Punches that would never hit the old Floyd will soon land on the OLD Floyd.
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