Real boxing fans, Lets talk post Cotto-Martinez

Surprisingly a solid PPV card. In a way i think people got their money's worth tonight. My take: -Cotto looked real good no matter what version of Sergio he was fighting. The left hook was vicious and those right hands looked very sharp. -Martinez after round 3 was done. It was almost hard to watch because he had clearly shot legs and those are his weapons. Cotto cut the ring very well, but it was clear that Martinez right knee wasn't keeping up with him -Martinez is all class. damn it! it sucked seeing him without his legs. I'm a huge fan still and he deserves to be in the HOF in the future. -I truly believe Cotto could beat some quality opponents. Winner of Canelo-Lara would be great and a showdown with GGG would really seal his legitimacy as THE MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP! -As a Puerto Rican, its truly awesome seeing a countryman become a 4th division champion and bring yet another piece of history back to the Island. Your thoughts? Cotto looks like a totally different fighter under Roach. He uses a combination of boxing off the back foot, setting traps using angles and going totally offensive to keep his opponents off balance. When he goes offensive, he really sits down on that left hook and throws it with bad intentions to the body and head. I think more than anything Sergio has been fighting slow come forward fighters that made him look like a superstar. Sergio's knee was fine. I think Sergio was shocked by Cotto's speed. When Cotto came up in weight, he was actually faster than Martinez, that speed more than anything else befuddled Sergio and totally took him out of his game. Almost the same thing as what oscar experienced when he fought Pac. The speed was too much to overcome.

Hell he lost to Murray i felt too, but props to Cotto he did a hell of a job. As for being a good MW champ? If he avoids anyone decent yeah. Cotto is going to have a hard time in there if he fights Canelo, GGG, and even maybe Quillin. We'll see what he does though, but I'm guessing Canelo. I'd love for him to fight Quillin next.I think that's a easy fight.The other 2 are a little more difficult.

The difference in the fight was Cotto's left hook that Sergio had no answer for. Even Sergio 2 years ago wouldn't have had an answer for it because of Sergio's style. To say Cotto was only landing flush left hooks because of Sergio's legs is absurd. The same people who were picking Martinez to crush Cotto are the same one's making all the excuses for him. It's only the Cotto fantards that are in denial about Sergio's injuries. At least the TS is acknowledging them.

That's what i said. Hell he lost to Murray i felt too, but props to Cotto he did a hell of a job. As for being a good MW champ? If he avoids anyone decent yeah. Cotto is going to have a hard time in there if he fights Canelo, GGG, and even maybe Quillin. We'll see what he does though, but I'm guessing Canelo.

that 12th round with Chavez was the beggining of Sergios decline as the MW champion. So sad to see.... That's what i said.

Cotto will be an interesting Middleweight champ. I certainly don't see Canelo beating Cotto even before Roach became his trainer. GGG will have to take place at some time and that will be good.

I enjoyed all of the fights except WV2. That foul fest was a buzz kill.

that 12th round with Chavez was the beggining of Sergios decline as the MW champion. So sad to see....

No the problem was that Chavez ruined Martinez's chin.I believe that.

Cotto's movement surprise the **** out of me. I also believe a 100% Sergio would of still had his hands full against the Cotto. I must say, Roach has done a good job with Cotto. I agree 100%! Cotto was extremely impressive, it would have been an ATG fight if Sergio was all there physically. I liked that he gave no excuses at the end. Just a few fights back, before Roach I was hoping Miguel wouldn't become a stepping stone of sorts. I think he fights Canelo next (if he wins), then he could retire- wouldn't be mad at him!

Martinez was moving like a butterfly and was even thinking of stinging like a bee but got thudded with a lethal left hook. Watch his legs the whole time, his leg was fine it was his chin that gave out. Watch how fast he sprung up after the first knockdown, no problem with the knee. Only bitter haters will kid themselves tonight but Cotto beats ANY version or Martinez. you dont know what your talking about. But if thats true then cotto should have no problem fighting GGG

great unbiased analysis, green sent

Cotto wouldn't have taken such a risk at this stage, he knew exactly how bad Martinez condition was. I never thought he would take the fight being in THAT bad a shape. Let's talk boxing: anyone looks good against a man that by all means shouldn't fight any more. To be fair, Cotto's left hooks started landing way before Martinez started moving around. Cotto either way looked impressive, but clearly Martinez was past it. can't blame Cotto and Martinez did talk alot. It hurt seeing that Martinez yesterday.

I said this in another thread. Martinez wasn't 100%, but everyone picking him to destroy Cotto knew he wouldn't be. It was a risk Cotto took, and he looked great. He won in every aspect of the fight. I'm thankful to have witnessed history. I must admit though. I feel for Sergio a bit. I've been a fan and had the pleasure of meeting him. He's a great guy. I usually root for him in every fight, but not tonight. He got dismantled. Also, the undercard wasn't bad. I wasn't too happy with Sonsona-WV2, but whatever. The other two were quality fights. Cotto wouldn't have taken such a risk at this stage, he knew exactly how bad Martinez condition was. I never thought he would take the fight being in THAT bad a shape. Let's talk boxing: anyone looks good against a man that by all means shouldn't fight any more.

Martinez is a late bloomer anyways. He was always going to be old no matter what. He took some hard shots but Martinez was the much heavier man coming in tonight, so he was expected to withstand them. Even at 155 Cotto's left hook is unreal.

Cotto demonstrated speed and power the likes of which I cannot recall seeing in many many years of watching him. He didn't even need to work as much as he normally does. He was like a mini Mike Tyson. Explosion after explosion. There was lethal force on display in there. Seemed like every solid punch he landed - no matter where he landed it - hurt Martinez badly. Some of the counterpunches he timed were among the most sudden and sharpest I've ever witnessed. Ever. From anyone. Had to rewind some of them three or four times. At one point he turned and wrapped Martinez' entire body around and rotated him like he was manhandling a small child. I don't think I've seen anything like it.

Sergio Martinez is a good fighter, damn good. He's not a hall of famer......I repeat.....Sergio Martinez is not a hall of famer.

I feel asleep!!!!!! But saw youtubed it war cotto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The difference in the fight was Cotto's left hook that Sergio had no answer for. Even Sergio 2 years ago wouldn't have had an answer for it because of Sergio's style. To say Cotto was only landing flush left hooks because of Sergio's legs is absurd. The same people who were picking Martinez to crush Cotto are the same one's making all the excuses for him. No excuses from me. Cotto was so complete tonight, I think he would beat almost anyone fighting like that.

Martinez as a fighter was all footwork. Take that away, and this this is the performance you get. Unable to turn the opponent means unable to avoid the left hook, plain and simple. Martinez is a great fighter, just one that got old. Sadly, I agree 90%.