martinez starts from 147. as well as canelo.
pac starts at flyweight to 147 throughout his career.
and fought at 150 fighting marg who starts at 147.
its a challenge against pac and it is a test... but he stops at marg at 150.
it is pacs desicion why he fought marg only as you can see at that fight
pac fights good but look at his body.
pac can fight at 147 weighing 142-146 at fight night he weighs maybe 148-
150. some 147 he fought weighs more than 150+ except ODLH and JMM.
martinez or canelo cant get that recognition from fighting pac.
they need to fight bigger men not bigger names with less risks.
even floyd didnt fought marg.. he fought baldomir look at that fight it is not
that competetive and entertaining to watch but floyd WON it very
convincingly. floyd didnt fought marg coz marg fights differently to baldo. too
much risks. and floyd starts at 130.
dont match floyd with them... floyd is an elite.
those fresh champs have good chances on each other but not on floyd.
floyd only left money fight is with pac.
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FLOYD IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN SHOOK!
above all said and done they will say over and over again TAKE THE TESTS...
and it will never end... until the fight is signed.
I hope for a action packed fight,hope they both bring their A game and give us a great fight
signed,
Boxing fan
it will be greater than JMM vs PBF. lol
but not as great as the previous 2.
anyway it is a money fight. if JMM take an upset it there will be no more PBF vs
Pac how sad. and it will be JMM vs PBF 2 and much worse than the 1st. lol
At the end of the day when its all said and done like Mayweather said, Pacqauio's name is attach to his name lol, where was this fighter at when Floyd was dominatin 5-10 years ago lol? There wasnt any mention of a Floyd vs Pac-man bak then!
I know everyone wants too see Floyd vs Pac now but its like Pacqauio can't sell just off his own brand/name, Mayweather has to be in the mix somehow for his fights to do good lol! Mayweather can be gone from the sport for more than two years not saying anything in the media and Pacquiao's people has to find some type of way to downplay Floyd to boost Pacaquio's stock! Aint that ashame that you have to resort to that method? But that is Bob Arum for you lol Pacaquaio's promoter!
I'm sorry but Floyd has been doing this for years before pacquiao ever came in the mix! I wonder who will be the next fighter or Top Rank fighter to beat Floyd once pac-man loses?
it is also attached to Cotto, Margarito and ODLH rematch. lol
i don't need people to back me up because i can do it my self you mad
damn you do yourself??? how does it feel doing yourself??? f*ck this is insane
not just homo... he f*cked his i dont know what, too many holes in you. lol
why isnt manny fighting him at 140?
if you are saying Jmm is a 135 guy and can fight Manny at 140.. why the hell
Jmm cant fight at 140 and campaign there where manny is at 147. anyway a
147 Floyd never fought at 144 against Jmm.
Sizes:
Jmm=Pac but Pac and Jmm are different boxer.
Floyd>Pac=Jmm and Floyd is a little bigger than Pac as of today.
Floyd fought Jmm just to prove he is better than Pac.
Floyd vs Pac is much better to see. Pac can fight at a higher weight that is why
Floyd doesnt agree to what Pac is doing in his fight weight. And now Pac is
needed to be TESTED coz of if Floyd said if he were fighting and KOing/
dominating at HW etc etc bla bla bla he might be in PEDs... thats why he is
complaining about a one dimensional overrated Pac has done in boxing is
impossible. anyway he didnt know they start at 106 at the same age. lol
in what division??out of the 5 he fought in he was linear in 3(130,135,147)
at 147 he has beat
Judah-top 5 ww-ibf champ-former linear champ
mosley-linear champ wba champ
baldo-linear champ-wbc champ
ortiz-wbc champ-top 3 ww
hatton-former -wba champ-top 5 ww
so what are you talking about?
Judah-top 5 ww-ibf champ-former linear champ(weak coming off a loss and kostyas customer)
mosley-linear champ wba champ(good win but too late for a fight)
baldo-linear champ-wbc champ(weak champion in a very weak weight division that time but he takes that belt and recognition even though it is a boring fight)
ortiz-wbc champ-top 3 ww(man dont rate this guy coz he beat berto maidanas waste)
hatton-former -wba champ-top 5 ww(he is JWW not a welter weight)
anyway those are wins to compile for floyd.
if he chooses cotto/margarito/clottey or something that make him challenge himself it is better for his legacy. legacy?? he thinks about money first. lol
yeah JMM back pedals with a punch. but he cant do it against floyd.
manny is a clasher boxer he likes to go forward and exchange in his range.
anyway thats boxing manny wanted to be a boxer turn into a star now an
entertainer...
God also expects legally married people not to commit adultery and not to have kids out of wedlock with Jazabelles ..............just saying don't just read half the damn Bible Manny.do like most sinners do when religion is brought up.......shut the fuck up
moron thats why they are called sinners in the Bible.. COZ that is also a SIN kid.
understand marriage is good for man and woman.. and bible said its not man and
man.. eventhough man and woman is married they are also rules and Gods
commandments they have to obey after marriage.
even hating on pac is a SIN.. killing and others..
pac has his own belief and respect that special child.
No and Yes
Cotto- NO
Marg- NO
Clottey- NO
Hatton- Yes
ODLH-NO
Diaz-Yes
Mosley-NO
JMM can only fight Pac. JMM have no business with pacs resume.
the Q is can pac beat all those JMMs resume???
I don't know if its because he's going to jail this summer or he's got something in his mind or he is dead scared of Cotto..
BUT that boy looked SCARED as a mawfuka tonight. He was even trembling at one point while looking at miguel.
What do you think is TRULY worrying floyd??
floyd is not... whenever floyd choose an opponent he is always ready to his
opponent... floyd is in the entertainment and preserving his health and cotto
now is done and scared of what behind bars?? lol
the thing is..... floyd and pac is totally different.
A. when pac fights today FANS want to see how will he BEAT his opponent.
1. thing is if his opponent clash him it will be devastating fight for pac.
and boxing fans goes on a WOW a fight.
2. second one is if his opponent goes of def and counters him it will be a
boring fight. like the JMM fight.
B. when floyd fights today FANS want to see how he will BEAT his opponent.
1. there is only one thing floyd does he box his opponent and stays at his
skills on def and countering. it will be a boring fight but a great fight for boxing
fan.
2. it will be exiting fight if his opponent hit floyds alot. like the cotto fight
when floyd got bloods on his nose...
pac got beat too in 09... dont give me a bull**** about blood on floyds nose..
pac got more bruises than him with a bloated ear.
anyway pac got better win against cotto... as you can see floyd is still
vulnerable with cottos left hand..
Say what you want about Cortez but he did a great job by giving Marquez one last chance to get up when he looked like he was done after the 3rd knockdown. A lot of referees would have stopped the fight and nobody would have complained about it. Give credit where credit is due, it was a great call.
my stand point of view it created millions it makes pac and jmm a good way
of living. and good for boxing.
but legacy wise pac got it all aside from fighting jmm.
jmm's legacy is only attached to pac giving him a hell of 4 fight.
if jmm never fought pac, fading barrera and some good fights he have in his
road... his career will not bloom.
De La Hoya - Pac jumped 2 weight classes for this fight. First time fighting at welter, coming off a lightweight fight. ODLH was the A side, he called the shots, so this was all on him. No issues with this one.
Cotto - Fighting for Cotto's welterweight title. Since Cotto weighed in the previous fight at 146, only 1 lb less at a 145 lb catchweight was supposedly fair. But if it's only 1 lb, why not just fight at the welterweight limit?
Margarito - Tony was a career welterweight. Plus, Pac didn't even come close to making the super welter limit. No issue with this one.
Marquez 3 - The catchweight was basically their real weights without having to cut weight and rehydrate. Pac is not a full fledged welter, more like a filled out junior welter who doesn't feel like cutting weight. He's the A side, so he can call the shots on the weight. No issue with this one.
So the only one I have issue with is the Cotto fight. Cotto had a history of trouble making weight for 147 as it is, plus Cotto was the champion. The others are no big deal for the reasons stated above.
ODLH= Its ODLH weight choice.
COtto=145 not 147. after a fight with ODLH on 147 why not 147 too with Cotto after a 146 with Clottey... a smaller man take a bigger fresher guy than ODLH thats most matter anyway if cotto weighs 147 on that it will be the same as 145 result.
Margarito= thats the max pacs can fight him 150.. anyway margs last fight is 147. Marg can make 147 that time.
Marquez= at any weight JMM is the kryptonite(creep-toon-fight) for pac.
he is a 5 time champion in 3 divisions 112,118,122(won interim title at 115) 1 time lineal champ at 122,his resume is getting better and better,what do you think?
a big no.
pac is not well known after he beats barrera/morales and other good and great
fighter at lower weights. at higher weight pac begin to shine.
some guys are HOF thats a big problem to donaire to have.
these posters amaze me callin boxers cowards.boxing is a job just like anything else and your money,health and your family comes first.......these posters say a boxer is suppose to put them first but when its all said and done not 1 of these mafuckas would donate a damn dime if further on they find out one of these wars damaged a fighters health and they could earn no more money and could not support their family..............so damn right the fighter and his family comes first cause the same people they risk their life's to entertain will turn on them in a hot second
sometimes when your on top. you need to realize what is the best for you.
that is what floyd is doing.
boxing at first for floyd is challenging thats the first beginning of
fame, win fights and never loss.
after floyd leaves arum, and floyd stop fighting legit WW and retires.
in this days his fans challenge him to do this and that.... he did some of them.
floyds missing is only pac... and that fight will never happen coz of money etc
etc... and that sucks.
boxing-hit and dont get hit.he who masters that and is smart enough toget the best deals=a successful and smart person
still defending floyd in a lighter way... but he is a a superb boxer and a brilliant
businessman.
boxing = sports using physical contact.
boxer = PROFESSIONAL boxer.
so if you are a professional in a field of boxing it is simplest way to understand
floyd is an expert in it. but he is a guy protecting himself and his health.
ALI is the king of everything he does.. Floyd isnt. thats why he call himself a
MONEY.
bob costas ask him... and he answers.... and it is very sad.
he is not afraid of pac thats why he is asking for a test.
he is afraid of LOASING that "0".
if he loses that he lost all that $ and his credibility and his legacy is in
jeopardy.
**** legacy, he never listens to his fan. lol.
if floyd fails on thinking pac is on something he thinks about about his health
as he said, "anything can happen."
clottey beat pacquiao.
clottey and jmm fights differently.
clottey been outgun. box great on his defensive shell.
jmm box back pedaling. box greatly on counter punching.
between those two fights pac is the aggressor on both fight.
a counter puncher never uses head movement on a shoulder roll on a fetus
position like floyd/toney is doing, when he is under attack he uses dodging on his
right shoulder then spin over then clinch.... they can use head movements when
tag on the ropes sometimes.
most head movements are used by sluggers to avoid jabs... like tyson.
He's already "campaigning in another weight class" just by fighting @ Lightweight.
And he's already proven that he can compete @ Welterweight by defeating the #2 Welterweight in the world. He just can't compete with THE BEST Welterweight in the division.
If he were to fight any of the top guys @ 147 and lose, it would be likely based moreso on the particular stylistic matchup and/or his age, as opposed to weight.
But i would favor Marquez over all of the top Welterweights outside of Mayweather.
Which is what everybody was saying prior to Pac's fights with De La Hoya & Cotto. You see how that turned out, didn't ya?
Skill/Technique > Miniscule weight differences
thats from a floyd fan point of view.
so that is pac. pac is the smallest WW around and the best competetive one.
any mexican fan there wanted to see their ATG guy fight at welter?