Ali, Robinson, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, etc. all knew and accepted that boxing is dangerous profession. Yet they recognized that to achieve gain and fame, they must take the risk and accept the pain. They also realized that to minimize the pain they must rely on their skills, not on their ability to avoid the threats.
Boxing is a physical and dangerous sport. That is it's nature. That is also what makes it enticing to watch. If boxers can cherry pick their opponents and duck the threats because they fear the possible dire consequences, then the sport of boxing will simply become a joke, a farce. There would be no point in watching and supporting the sport anymore. We all might as well switch to watching ballroom dancing.
Any sport, whether its football, basketball, tennis, swimming, track & field, etc., the goal is to determine who is the best. And to be the best, athletes must face the best. Anyone who refuses to abide and accept this universal principle of all sports and who will instead deliberately duck a threat for fear of losing, or is afraid of the adverse consequences, is nothing but a COWARD and should not be allowed in the sport in the first place. Likewise, any fan who agrees with the COWARD is contributing to degradation of the sport and is definitely not a true fan of that sport.
OH the Hypocrisy
Yes those cw are a nonsense as Pac can beat them just as easy without a CW.
--He could?? Well why the f*ck didn't he?
But Floyd is even worse he asks fighters to step up 2 divisions,
--Didn't Marquez step up 2 division to fight Pacquiao too?
when Floyd wont step up even one without a fuss.
--Floyd wont step up a weight division without a fuss.... Didnt pacquiao fight a welterweight at a catchweight? Didnt he fight Margarito at a catchweight? Those aren't fusses?
If Floyd ever steps down a division i would probably faint with shock.
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What 'fuss' are you talking about? When has Floyd ever demanded a bigger guy come down in weight? It isn't Floyd's career that's been defined by catchweight demands.
LOL, sure, because Pac refusing to fight Mosley the first time around without a catchweight, and refusing to fight Cotto TWICE without a catchweight is 'brave.'
Funny how in both cases Floyd's can do what Pac couldn't.
Yes those cw are a nonsense as Pac can beat them just as easy without a CW.
But Floyd is even worse he asks fighters to step up 2 divisions, when Floyd wont step up even one without a fuss. If Floyd ever steps down a division i would probably faint with shock.
I still don't get it. Here's Pacman who idiots constantly claim to be just an overrated boxer. A guy who fought weight-drained boxers. Here's Floyd da best who stands to make more than $100 million fighting an amateurish midget from Asia and Floyd da businessman picks Pacman's leftover Cotto, instead.
Tell me how does that make sense? What have I been missing with these recycled arguments?
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LOL, sure, because Pac refusing to fight Mosley the first time around without a catchweight, and refusing to fight Cotto TWICE without a catchweight is 'brave.'
Funny how in both cases Floyd's can do what Pac couldn't.
Can you answer the other half now?? How brave is Pacman for choosing Cotto, but no higher than 148??
I know some people think Pac is superman, but trust me he isnt, he is human. Margarito hurt him, as he was 3 divisions bigger fight night, there is something called weight advantage for a reason? He cant keep pushing the envelope.
Having said that, anything pac has done is braver than anything FLoyd has done of late because as far as i know, Floyds been sitting on his couch watching dvds of how to beat southpaw Pac. And in his spare time he just trains, without a fight at the end of the day.
Floyd has taken almost ZERO solid shots to the head in almost 20 years of boxing
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Floyd is filthy rich.
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Floyd will enjoy his wealth for many, many years to come.
So...fighting the way he's fighting obviously paid off.
Listening to, and seeing Mayweather's recent Costas interview makes me wonder if indeed the few head blows he actually has taken, have had some effect on him. Either he'd just been to the dentist and his mouth was filled with dental anasthetic, or he was sedated to almost stupor. Because he certainly was having as much trouble managing his lips as Evander Holyfield does. And that very very noticeable, to me anyway. I was very surprised. Maybe he knows about it and it was the reason he was talking so much about his health. That was another surprise.
As for his wealth, I'd say that was debateable, at the rate he seems to run through money. It was just as recently as 2010, less than 2 years ago, that Mayweather "Productions" was evicted into the street for long-term non-payment of rent for their one room one girl office. He also had a car repossessed for non-payment, as well as being hounded by the IRS for over $7 mill in taxes. I believe that they seized the purse of his next fight.
What we actually "know" about Mayweather's money is ZERO. Any info comes only from HIM, and because he is a serial liar, it has to be suspected. Nobody with any smarts would openly disclose his earnings and wealth to the public. Loving him so much, even though you don't know him or anything about him, is your choice. I couldn't care less.
So far, based on the over-all responses that have been posted, it is clear that Floyd fans wholeheartedly support Floyd when he said that a boxer "should not be pushed into fights that he shouldn't have even been involved with", that "self preservation" should be the paramount concern of a boxer in order to not end up a vegetable.
Therefore, Ali should not have fought Frazier, Foreman, Norton, etc.., Duran should not have fought Hearns, Frazier should not have fought Foreman and Ali, plus all those boxers who fought Tyson, when he was at his prime, should have stayed away from him, etc.. Those are the types of battles that take a tremendous toll on any boxer's health.
If the majority of fans feel the same way as these Floyd 'fans', what kind of fights are we now to expect from boxing? Can we even call safe fights as boxing? Are these fans really fans of boxing, or are they here just to protect their COWARDLY idol?
Remember Floyd fans, boxing is inherently a dangerous sport. The risks comes with the territory. If a boxer wants the gain and the fame, he should be prepared to face the consequences. His value as a prizefighter is directly related to the amount of big challenges he is willing to take. He should show the public that he is worth the money he is getting. If he is not ready to accept that reality, if he only wants the gain and not the pain, he should immediately switch to ballroom dancing and transfer his learned footwork and body movements to better use.
And all you Floyd fans who agree with him should follow him there because you guys are just Floyd fans and are not really boxing fans.
Well Floyd cant have it both ways, fight Pac leftovers and also try to fight Cotto at 147 can he, when Cotto just turned down 147, so why would Floyd try drain him?
When you know when FLoyd is going to fight the level of opposition of his father FLoyd senior let me know. I cant believe Floyd hasnt fought opoosition as good as his dad yet, and Floyds supposed to be one of the best fighters of this era.
Can you answer the other half now?? How brave is Pacman for choosing Cotto, but no higher than 148??
Hell naw, that's the difference betrween you & I. But at the very least Floyd isn't trying to drain Cotto. Remember 1 thing buddy. Pacman tried to fight this very same Cotto at a mannyweight of 148, that's a fact. Floyd is fighting him at 154.
Well Floyd cant have it both ways, fight Pac leftovers and also try to fight Cotto at 147 can he, when Cotto just turned down 147, so why would Floyd try drain him?
When you know when FLoyd is going to fight the level of opposition of his father FLoyd senior let me know. I cant believe Floyd hasnt fought opoosition as good as his dad yet, and Floyds supposed to be one of the best fighters of this era.
Don't play dumb....
Tony was brutally KO'd and rotting in mexico without a license....he was no threat to anybody..
When Shane was CHAMPION Ms Pacman wanted nothing to do with him....too risky..
He was as risky as FLoyd was sitting on his break. Floyds not a threat to anyone when he retires as well, but Floyd trained like a demon, just like Margarito did.
The margarito who stepping in the ring was a threat to Pac, and not Floyd, as floyd wouldnt ever go in the ring with someone like Margarito.
Again who was that bum Pac fought to avoid SSM? You said Pac avoided SMM to fight some bum of the month, i forgot the time line, please remind me.
So are u going to give Floyd his bravery medal for fighting cotto at 154? What an absolute risk Floyd is taking. Floyds dad even took more risks in his career. SRL cant have been to easy a fight for him.
Hell naw, that's the difference betrween you & I. But at the very least Floyd isn't trying to drain Cotto. Remember 1 thing buddy. Pacman tried to fight this very same Cotto at a mannyweight of 148, that's a fact. Floyd is fighting him at 154.
Imagine if an MLB player hid behind ever changing excuses as to why he won't test.
Maybe you've been asleep for about 6 months, but testing hasnt been an issue for quite some time. Even Floyd has acknowledged that testing is no longer an issue. The issue now is Floyd's self preservation of his health. LOL
What kind of a risk was fighting an UNLICENSED banned Margarito..?
When Shane was WW Champion....he called Pac out IN HIS OWN GYM...Roach said "You're just too good"...
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What is unlicensed, banned got anything to do with whether someone is dangerous? Hes a nutjob, big, bad and dangerous, who was at least 3 divisions bigger on fight night. How is that not risky?
I think roach meant too risky at that point in time with not enough money. But i doubt Pacs next fight was a walk in the park, he on the whole dont take those fights if i look at his whole career.
You know absolutely nothing about boxing, yet somehow post away without fail!! LOL!!
You're counter to Jro in your sig proves it. More skills but can't apply it, get serious. All you have to do is move & Pacman can;t apply skill, lol!! Funny guy.
So are u going to give Floyd his bravery medal for fighting cotto at 154? What an absolute risk Floyd is taking. Floyds dad even took more risks in his career. SRL cant have been to easy a fight for him.
Imagine a MLB player saying that he doesnt want to bat up against a certain pitcher because he throws too hard and he's afraid at what might happen to his health if he gets hit by a pitch!
Should i give Floyd his bravery award or should you? Floyd has rested on his backside long enough now, so at the very least you or i should expect Floyd should fight Cotto at 154 by now without boasting ang gloating about it!!
How much more of a career has floyd got left now, cant be that much?
Pacs already bashed margarito up for Cotto, and bashed Cotto up for Floyd. How much did Margarito weigh when he fought Pac? Has anyone that small ever beat Margarito like that, or even dared step in the ring with him, regardless of whether Margarito had titles, hes still dangerous.
Whenever I want a good laugh, I read what you post. You know absolutely nothing about boxing, yet somehow post away without fail!! LOL!!
You're counter to Jro in your sig proves it. More skills but can't apply it, get serious. All you have to do is move & Pacman can;t apply skill, lol!! Funny guy.
This right here. Seems like ts wanted to bash Floyd, but he would have to take a long look at Pacman & dump his a$$ too. Picked Cotto, but wouldn't fight cotto at a decent weight. Floyd's doing it.
Should i give Floyd his bravery award or should you? Floyd has rested on his backside long enough now, so at the very least you or i should expect Floyd should fight Cotto at 154 by now without boasting ang gloating about it!!
How much more of a career has floyd got left now, cant be that much?
Pacs already bashed margarito up for Cotto, and bashed Cotto up for Floyd. How much did Margarito weigh when he fought Pac? Has anyone that small ever beat Margarito like that, or even dared step in the ring with him, regardless of whether Margarito had titles, hes still dangerous.
OP should have posted this after the truth about Pac's 148 catchweight demand came to light.
This right here. Seems like ts wanted to bash Floyd, but he would have to take a long look at Pacman & dump his a$$ too. Picked Cotto, but wouldn't fight cotto at a decent weight. Floyd's doing it.
Another stupid comeback. Pac was not refusing the test. The disagreement was the cut-off day.
Unless you post a more intelligent response, I'm done with you.
and a cut off date kills the purpose of being tested in the first place.
bottom line is they dont want to fight eachother, immature fans can pretend its all one fighters fault all they want but the bottom line is if either fighter really wanted the fight it wouldve been made by now. with the public demand thats out there they couldve easily put the other guy on the spot and forced him to fight yet they choose not to.
im starting to think manny and floyd made some kind of deal to take turns making lame excuses to kill the fight so they dont have to fight eacother and both get away with it somewhat clean.
but it doesnt really matter. they are both terrible for the sport.. just terrible. idk why ppl dont just focus on the guys who still want to be fighters and not just sit back and reap the benefits. guys like martinez, donaire and ward. guys with world class skill and a will to prove themselves to go with it. floyd and manny are businessmen, they stopped being fighters a long time ago.
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