I can't see how Manny could get off against Floyd

Although none of the southpaws that Floyd has fought were on the same level as Manny, but they did had longer reach than Manny. Most seems to underestimate it, but using your reach can be one of the few keys factor of winning a fight if you can use it properly and effectively. They didn't had to lunged/leaped in too much to landed their straight left hand punches because they had long reach to stayed in balance and and threw them. I've re-watched the JMM-Manny II bout twice yesterday, and Manny had to constantly lunged/leaped in numerous times to landed his shots off first when JMM would forced him to fought at distance. Keep in mind that both Manny and JMM has identical reach length, but he still had trouble with JMM's straight right hand punches even when they fought at long range.

the ONLY way pacquiao can win is if he ko's Floyd and i dont think that will happen. its an EASY fight for Floyd, he's the TRUTH!

This is how.. ortiz landed like 3 clean blows well done. its also my personal opinion that you need long arms to land those type of shots he did but hey its just me.

but doesnt all pacman's opponents is taller than him? lol.. difference between being tall and fighting tall

You can't beat floyd by just outworking him and he's shown that time and time again. Mann'ys best chance is to fight a jean pascal/david haye fight which is to stay outside then come in randomly and surprise floyd (which i don't see him doing). The fact that floyd fights tall and manny is at a reach disadvantage as well doesn't bode well for him. (most of the guys that stunned floyd had long arms) This is how..

You can't beat floyd by just outworking him and he's shown that time and time again. Mann'ys best chance is to fight a jean pascal/david haye fight which is to stay outside then come in randomly and surprise floyd (which i don't see him doing). The fact that floyd fights tall and manny is at a reach disadvantage as well doesn't bode well for him. (most of the guys that stunned floyd had long arms)

Pac KD's Floyd a couple times with explosive shots he didn't see coming. Floyd picks up Pac's unorthodox rhythm late in the fight but loses on points. Pac UD12. Or, Floyd could play matador all night and punch one at a time trying to counter an advancing Pac in a very boring 12 rd fight. In that case, Floyd SD12, only because judges won't give Floyd the UD fighting defensively against a superstar like Pac.

floyd is going to have a field day with this. i see a stoppage once floyd has manny totally frustrated. if yall think floyd fought with anger against Ortiz, just wait until he fights manny. its going to be brutal. Common, that video is so biased... You could do the same to Floyd, just show when he misses punches.. Manny beat the **** out of both Cotto and Mosley so whats the point in showing the punches he missed?

You are saying that Floyd is better defensively and a better counter puncher. That again is an observation not supported by statistics. In the DLH fights, sure, Floyd had a better percentage in landing his jabs. But pac had a higher percentage on power punches and landed at a higher rate (24/rd compared to Floyd at 11.5 /rd average). That nullifies the claim that Floyd is the more accurate boxer. Remember that Floyd has a considerable longer reach than Pac which should give him more opportunities to land his punches. As far as defense, DLH landed the same percentage on both boxers. That again nullifies the other claim that Floyd has better defense. The statistics in the Mosley fights showed the same pattern as shown in a previous post. With regards to the Hatton fights, in two rounds, Pac landed 73 out of 127 total punches thrown or 57%. His power punches was more impressive, 65/105 or 62%. Floyd on the other hand landed 129/329 or 39%. His power punches were the same, 100/257 or 39%. Again, there goes the accuracy claim. On the defense side, Hatton landed at 23% on Pac, and 17% on Floyd. Still not a big difference considering that Hatton was smaller and had shorter reach than Floyd. Carpe diem, you continue to claim that Floyd is a more complete boxer than Pac. Floyd's performance against common opponent does not support that. Don't throw around statements that are not backed up by evidence. Produce your evidences or shut up!

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REMATCH REMATCH HAS TO HAPPEN MAN. Honestly AGAIN. I never seen floyd get tagged so cleanly and so much just in round 4 of Ortiz fight. Floyd and his team know they need to setup a rematch.

Here pretty easy to hit Floyd ;) Again, it's not about hitting Floyd. In combat Sports you're always gonna get hit very often. The question is though, how constantly does Floyd gets hit compared to other current Boxers? The task is, could anyone hit him consistently enough for 12 rounds like Jose Luis Castillo did? At the end of the day, Floyd is a more complete Boxer than Manny(abilities-wise).

Whats sad is that Floyd's fans have more confidence in him then he does in himself. If Manny was easy pickings, Floyd would have fought him already. Floyd's waiting for Pac to lose so he can claim that he was right all along and that Pac wasn't worth fighting. No man in his right mind would pass up on millions and add to his legacy if he wasn't worried about losing. Yup, educated people get it. Flomos don't lol

Whats sad is that Floyd's fans have more confidence in him then he does in himself. If Manny was easy pickings, Floyd would have fought him already. Floyd's waiting for Pac to lose so he can claim that he was right all along and that Pac wasn't worth fighting. No man in his right mind would pass up on millions and add to his legacy if he wasn't worried about losing.

spoon totally stole the klitard cut and paste argument strategy.

He'd open up pretty easy. He'd throw a bunch of punches like a spastic retard like he usually does and Mayweather will jump four feet backwards to get away. They'll reset and do it all over again, the whooooole fight. Here pretty easy to hit Floyd ;)

when you miss against floyd then...."you's gots ta pay" come on man everything is against manny, floyd: height, size, manny's fighting a counter puncher way better than the man that gave him hell marquez.... He has the shorter reach, floyds just as fast if not faster, and we know for a fact floyd has better defense and is a better boxer.... this has mismatch written all over it. You guys watch too much rocky. when you get hit in the face by a bigger man with precision, you will abandon your game plan and in all honesty, i don't think manny will even have a plan b let alone a plan c, does he even fight with a plan??? Lol i know you guys will holler but margarito, everyone is bigger than pacquiao!!!! To which i would say, they are bums losing to each other. cotto lost to margarito and honestly i dont think he cheated, if cotto really felt he had cheated, then he would be ready now, but again they are fighting at a catchweight..... mosley whooped margarito.... clottey has a win over judah, but so does amir khan lol.... floyd is on a different level and you wont see x7 punch combos just you didnt see them on marquez......... people say floyd is feather fisted, so why dont we see more of people simply walking him down, why does he stand and bang and get the best of the exchanges???[/QU ********************************************************* If floyd is getting his ass tagged good by a b class fighter what more if its the pacman. It's academic, your man can't dodge all the lightning and barrage of punches if the pacman does it to him. If victor can flurry and snap floy'd head like that with a barrage of punches what more if its the super fast combos of the pacman. He will eat leather all day and get trapped in the ropes. Here watch how a b class fighter 'victor ortiz' whoop floy'd ass. After that imagine pac doing it. Bam floyd goes down and can't get up hehe!

Larry, from those figures above, it shows clearly who the more superior boxer is. It appears that most people get the wrong impression because Floyd is by nature a showman. But when scrutinized deeper, you'll discover that a lot of these are illusions perpetuated by people who didn't bother to investigate further. And if anyone has wondered why Floyd has a history of avoiding real challenges, look for no further reason than the fear of getting exposed. Manny, on the other hand, can be described in short by what a number of commentators have observed. He has evolved into an efficient fighting machine. Yup its's just right that we expose him. Give credit were credit is due, The fourth round was clearly a victor round. as seen in slowmo. Floyd hittable even in the ropes.

You are saying that Floyd is better defensively and a better counter puncher. That again is an observation not supported by statistics. In the DLH fights, sure, Floyd had a better percentage in landing his jabs. But pac had a higher percentage on power punches and landed at a higher rate (24/rd compared to Floyd at 11.5 /rd average). That nullifies the claim that Floyd is the more accurate boxer. Remember that Floyd has a considerable longer reach than Pac which should give him more opportunities to land his punches. As far as defense, DLH landed the same percentage on both boxers. That again nullifies the other claim that Floyd has better defense. The statistics in the Mosley fights showed the same pattern as shown in a previous post. With regards to the Hatton fights, in two rounds, Pac landed 73 out of 127 total punches thrown or 57%. His power punches was more impressive, 65/105 or 62%. Floyd on the other hand landed 129/329 or 39%. His power punches were the same, 100/257 or 39%. Again, there goes the accuracy claim. On the defense side, Hatton landed at 23% on Pac, and 17% on Floyd. Still not a big difference considering that Hatton was smaller and had shorter reach than Floyd. Larry, from those figures above, it shows clearly who the more superior boxer is. It appears that most people get the wrong impression because Floyd is by nature a showman. But when scrutinized deeper, you'll discover that a lot of these are illusions perpetuated by people who didn't bother to investigate further. And if anyone has wondered why Floyd has a history of avoiding real challenges, look for no further reason than the fear of getting exposed. Manny, on the other hand, can be described in short by what a number of commentators have observed. He has evolved into an efficient fighting machine.

:ugh: ortiz is slower than pac and he was able to hit mayfeather cleanly with his flurry !!!! what makes you think a faster more accurate and battle ready warrior like manny wouldnt be able to do the same or BETTTER !!!!!!!! :boxing: if mayfeather fights manny the same as he did ortiz i am garanteeing he will touch the canvas multiple times !!!!! :kiss: Yup video evidence here to back it up ;)