He will unify the Wbc and Wbo and win the ring belt yet again which will make him a 8 time champion(couldve been 9 if you count the Mosley fight)..look how his resume would look
Manny-hof
Ortiz
Oscar-hof
Mosley-hof
Hatton
Jmm-hof
Corrales
Castillo
Judah
Hernendez
Gatti
8 time champion in 5 divisions
wins over 4 1st ballot hof's
43-0...seriously how could you deny him?
not sayin floyd is not an atg but ive yet to read/hear of him being called one by a credible historian or analysts tbh....
Because according to all the flomos, they dont know "s" about boxing are nothing but haters that started watching boxing 2 years ago. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
you probably couldn't name half of the 15 greatest boxers ever
and if you seriously think a win over manny pacquiao at WW makes floyd a top 15 atg you are being foolish
where both guys arent fighting at their best weight, i would give both credit for what they've done at 147. more credit for pacquiao than mayweather if he won the fight. its not like pacquiao has just been scraping by with his wins against bums. maybe guys past prime and worn out, but certainly not bums.
He will unify the Wbc and Wbo and win the ring belt yet again which will make him a 8 time champion(couldve been 9 if you count the Mosley fight)..look how his resume would look
Manny-hof
Ortiz
Oscar-hof
Mosley-hof
Hatton
Jmm-hofCorrales
Castillo
Judah
Hernendez
Gatti
8 time champion in 5 divisions
wins over 4 1st ballot hof's
43-0...seriously how could you deny him?
Oscar, SSM, Hatton, JMM you can take off Floyds resume as they were either old, bloated, or referee helped Floyd to win.
Pacs already up there. If Floyd beats Pac it wont put him that much higher. Floyd dont do much for Pac as well.
Sorry did u say if FLOYd DOMINATES pac. Well i suppose Floyd then deserves some acclaim for dominating Pac and put him top 15. Some people desperate for Floyd to get some recognition, well ok then if it makes you happy.
But Pac would still be higher ATG wise. If Floyd were to rematch Pac and same result again, and beats Sergio, then Floyd would be comparable to Pac. That may sound harsh to floyd on the surface, but Pacs wins over Morales by stoppage, Barrera, Ko of Hatton, Cotto has just put Pac that much in front of Floyd. Floyd has a lot of catchup to do.
you probably couldn't name half of the 15 greatest boxers ever
and if you seriously think a win over manny pacquiao at WW makes floyd a top 15 atg you are being foolish
We will see, hope the fight happens.
BTW, I thought JMM beat pac by 2 rounds in the rubber match but it doesn't mean floyd will win against pac that easy. This is a very intriguing fight but may be a boring one in favor of floyd, nobody really knows until it happens.
Hindsight is a 20/20 vision.
i dont think mayweather would totally blow him out. 116-112ish. i dont see mayweather stopping him unless its on cuts. boring, maybe...but there would be some action because pacquiao has so much heart.
if pacquiao can't get him out early, mayweather wins. i think mayweathers body punching would slow pacquiao down too much for him to do anything late
head to head i dont think its close because i favor mayweather at all of the weights they fought at.
but pacquiao definitely has accomplished more in his career and while i may not agree with all of his recent accomplishments, he's done more than floyd and most other greats. i give him props.
but overall skill, he's just not on mayweathers level. if anything is the deciding factor for me, it's defense. and that goes to floyd hands downWe will see, hope the fight happens.
BTW, I thought JMM beat pac by 2 rounds in the rubber match but it doesn't mean floyd will win against pac that easy. This is a very intriguing fight but may be a boring one in favor of floyd, nobody really knows until it happens.
Hindsight is a 20/20 vision.
Exactly what I was thinking LOL.
head to head i dont think its close because i favor mayweather at all of the weights they fought at.
but pacquiao definitely has accomplished more in his career and while i may not agree with all of his recent accomplishments, he's done more than floyd and most other greats. i give him props.
but overall skill, he's just not on mayweathers level. if anything is the deciding factor for me, it's defense. and that goes to floyd hands down
strawman/cop-out.....i don't buy that "styles make fights" crap. i'm tired of pactards refusing to give jmm his credit.
pacquiao had every advantage on him! the experience of fighting him two times prior, age, speed, power, weight(or so he thought) and bob arum hand picked judges.
Calm dafuk down! LOL
even though i believe floyd will beat the dog crap outta pacroid......i wasn't using the triangle theory argument. the agument i was making was how the hell can one NOT RATE a jmm win just as high if not higher than a pacquiao win at ww? jmm outboxed pac in their fight at 140+ so this proves that jmm can more than hold his own at ww. people are overrating a hypothetical pacquiao win and underrating the jmm win.
Styles make fights, that's all I can say.
even though i believe floyd will beat the dog crap outta pacroid......i wasn't using the triangle theory argument. the agument i was making was how the hell can one NOT RATE a jmm win just as high if not higher than a pacquiao win at ww? jmm outboxed pac in their fight at 140+ so this proves that jmm can more than hold his own at ww. people are overrating a hypothetical pacquiao win and underrating the jmm win.
Because, one would rate a win over Pep higher than a win over Saddler. Even though like I said Saddler is an F'ing ATG no question about it.
I'd honestly put him top 10. A win over Martinez at middleweight afterwards puts him top 3.
Martinez, please..overrate him much.
I'd put him top 20 easily.
No disrespect to JMM...But, he still not as great as MAB or EM. But, JMM is an ATG no doubt. He solidified his ATG status with the 3rd Pac fight. No doubt about that...It was probably debatable beforehand. But, after that the debate is over. However, I still have the likes of Barrera and Morales ahead of him.
And, even though the 3 Mexican Muskateers are ATG's with a doubt. They're right behind the likes of Roy, B-Hop, Floyd, and Pac.
Doesn't make them any less great though. Pac is a great fighter. It's sad that both fan bases don't respect their favorite fighter rival. These are great fighters here. Beating them means something.
i agree a bit. i'd have morales in front but jmm and mab are pretty close. overall, they should all go down in history as 3 of mexico's greatest.
something to think about though...almost all of mab's losses were legit. jmm's weren't
nobody should be talking about may or pac until next decade on this subject. let accomplishments stand a slight test of time before cementing them.
i personally think when all is said and done that people will remember mayweather as the better fighter. theres a reason why pacquiao jumped all these weights in the last 3 years. everyone was old...Then shut up and stop talking. LOL
nobody should be talking about may or pac until next decade on this subject. let accomplishments stand a slight test of time before cementing them.
i personally think when all is said and done that people will remember mayweather as the better fighter. theres a reason why pacquiao jumped all these weights in the last 3 years. everyone was old...
No disrespect to JMM...But, he still not as great as MAB or EM. But, JMM is an ATG no doubt. He solidified his ATG status with the 3rd Pac fight. No doubt about that...It was probably debatable beforehand. But, after that the debate is over. However, I still have the likes of Barrera and Morales ahead of him.
And, even though the 3 Mexican Muskateers are ATG's with a doubt. They're right behind the likes of Roy, B-Hop, Floyd, and Pac.
Doesn't make them any less great though. Pac is a great fighter. It's sad that both fan bases don't respect their favorite fighter rival. These are great fighters here. Beating them means something.
Wachu talking about both fan bases don't respect their favorite fighter rival?
No disrespect to JMM...But, he still not as great as MAB or EM. But, JMM is an ATG no doubt. He solidified his ATG status with the 3rd Pac fight. No doubt about that...It was probably debatable beforehand. But, after that the debate is over. However, I still have the likes of Barrera and Morales ahead of him.
And, even though the 3 Mexican Muskateers are ATG's with a doubt. They're right behind the likes of Roy, B-Hop, Floyd, and Pac.
Doesn't make them any less great though. Pac is a great fighter. It's sad that both fan bases don't respect their favorite fighter rival. These are great fighters here. Beating them means something.
i cannot stand these fake ass boxing fans......how the hell can you not rate the jmm win high but at the same time rate a hypothetical win against pacroid high? that makes no sense. a older jmm beat pacroid at ww, while floyd dominated a younger better version of jmm.....floyd did all of this while coming off a TWO YEAR LAYOFF!!!!
Triangle theory tsk tsk tsk...