We all know that he is the lightweight champion of the world. And give Pac
the edge in their 1st two fight and the last controversial fight.
And we know he can get that JWW belt if he wants too but there isnt enough
money.
Can he do what Pac has done? Like in WW division. Is it risky for his health at
this stage of his career?
Can he beat the following:
Cotto
Margarito
Clottey
Berto
Ortiz
Mosley
We all know he cant do what pac has done to some of top welter.
But i know he can sure he can box them but is it too critical for him to fight
them? Or he can just only fight pac but not other top welters for there are
less money and too risky?
We all know that he is the lightweight champion of the world. And give Pac
the edge in their 1st two fight and the last controversial fight.
And we know he can get that JWW belt if he wants too but there isnt enough
money.
Can he do what Pac has done? Like in WW division. Is it risky for his health at
this stage of his career?
Can he beat the following:
Cotto
Margarito
Clottey
Berto
Ortiz
Mosley
We all know he cant do what pac has done to some of top welter.
But i know he can sure he can box them but is it too critical for him to fight
them? Or he can just only fight pac but not other top welters for there are
less money and too risky?
pacquiao isnt a true welterweight.
I think it'd be stupid to say he CAN'T, but I don't think he could take over another division. What happened with Pacquiao was a style thing, and while he would obviously be good at 140, the next division up, I could see more than a few of the better fighters beating him.
Just because Marquez almost beat a lightweight campaigning at welterweight, now he can beat a real welterweight. Those guys are just too big for Marquez.
JMM should not take that risk at WW. It's one thing to beat Pac, whom he is already very familiar with, but it's another to beat Ortiz and Berto, who are both are in their physical prime. He does have the skill and experience to make it interesting, but I just feel that it's unnecessary. I think he can still be successful at 140, but 147 is asking for too much. At least he's saying that Bradley is an option if the Pac fight falls through.
He is champion at Lightweight. He can be a champion at Light Welterweight with fighters like Matthysse, Guerrero, Morales, and Bradley. Then he can try and be a champion at Welterweight with fighters like Malignaggi, Alexander, and Senchenko. I doubt he does any of this though. He has like a year left before he retires (makes a decision to retire that is).
hey paulie got 6 TKO/KO in his whole record lol.
did you see KO rate paulie have???? lol won 30 (KO 6) he is feather fisted man.
Exactly my point, give him some catchweights and even he will get those KO's, thanks, glad u understood.
so do you mean mexican bro cant fight each other like marg??? lol
clottey is a defensive boxer too wanna see that too against JMM.
and cotto probably to me JMM can outbox him.
Marg is junior Middleweight, and has been destroyed 3 out of his last 4 fights....
it just seems like a weird unnecessary match up
Clottey hasn't really done anything since Pacquiao.
Cotto- at this stage in his career? probably not
Berto- too young too strong, but I wouldn't be surprised if he outboxed him
Ortiz- No
Mosley - Marquez beats him
Clottey- irrelevant
Margarito- LOL
so do you mean mexican bro cant fight each other like marg??? lol
clottey is a defensive boxer too wanna see that too against JMM.
and cotto probably to me JMM can outbox him.
Lol, if paulie malignaggi could have all of his last 6 fights at catchweights, he probably have 6 ko's , lol
hey paulie got 6 TKO/KO in his whole record lol.
did you see KO rate paulie have???? lol won 30 (KO 6) he is feather fisted man.
We all know that he is the lightweight champion of the world. And give Pac
the edge in their 1st two fight and the last controversial fight.
And we know he can get that JWW belt if he wants too but there isnt enough
money.
Can he do what Pac has done? Like in WW division. Is it risky for his health at
this stage of his career?
Can he beat the following:
Cotto
Margarito
Clottey
Berto
Ortiz
Mosley
We all know he cant do what pac has done to some of top welter.
But i know he can sure he can box them but is it too critical for him to fight
them? Or he can just only fight pac but not other top welters for there are
less money and too risky?
Cotto- at this stage in his career? probably not
Berto- too young too strong, but I wouldn't be surprised if he outboxed him
Ortiz- No
Mosley - Marquez beats him
Clottey- irrelevant
Margarito- LOL
yeah it is a catch weight but it is legit. you take it away from pac that they
are defeated by one little man. ODLH with 147 thats not pac fault and Cotto he
got his catch weight but it is only 1 pound lower than he did with clottey it is a
fair shake fighting a little man like pac even floyd said he is a midget and one
dimensional.
Lol, if paulie malignaggi could have all of his last 6 fights at catchweights, he probably have 6 ko's , lol
All At a catchweight he can, lol
drain those mofos.
However, i do think he's getting a little too old.
yeah it is a catch weight but it is legit. you take it away from pac that they
are defeated by one little man. ODLH with 147 thats not pac fault and Cotto he
got his catch weight but it is only 1 pound lower than he did with clottey it is a
fair shake fighting a little man like pac even floyd said he is a midget and one
dimensional.
Marquez big babby looser.
he can't beated featherweight chris john, so he can no beated some big giuy except stupid big man like dumb berto.
Who the f@k is that brah?
We all know that he is the lightweight champion of the world. And give Pac
the edge in their 1st two fight and the last controversial fight.
And we know he can get that JWW belt if he wants too but there isnt enough
money.
Can he do what Pac has done? Like in WW division. Is it risky for his health at
this stage of his career?
Can he beat the following:
Cotto
Margarito
Clottey
Berto
Ortiz
Mosley
We all know he cant do what pac has done to some of top welter.
But i know he can sure he can box them but is it too critical for him to fight
them? Or he can just only fight pac but not other top welters for there are
less money and too risky?
All At a catchweight he can, lol
drain those mofos.
However, i do think he's getting a little too old.
yeah he avioded pac's punches somehwat due to the fact that they have fought twice prior to the last fight, he knew how to fight pac....did he avoid katsidis's punches ?....do you believe katsidis is better than any of those guys you mentioned even not considering how huge them guys are compared to katsidis?..lol
what can he possibly do to them guys....cotto's weakeness is vs pressure fighters who can punch, do you expect him to put the pressure on cotto?..lol..do you expect him to be able to handle cotto's power?..marg's?..do you expect clottey to respect him as much as he did pac...berto ?..ortiz ?..
the only way he can win vs them guys is if he does'nt get caught flushed and we all know jmm is no mayweather....
he fought katsidis toe to toe sometimes and got his back in the ropes. and he
got flushed. he cant do that too pac he fought pac differently. and pac
fought him differently like the other two 1st fights and 3rd fight is different
the first fight is gift draw desicion for JMM thats why some mexicans cant
accept the SD on 2nd fight with 1 knock down prior to 1st fight
and pac got the MD on the 3rd fight with no knock downs that cries more
mexicans in that fight. JMM got some
decent punches and that punches sent katsidis on ref to retire him.
i mean about those guys in WW are not that good as pac in movements.
JMM is good in movements while on defending im just visualizing he can use
that against top welters. Pac true evolve in his fights he is not that a brawler
we use to see in his younger days and he is not that hungry and for me he is
not the same guy fights like he use too he maintain his health/body due to
wear and tear. he didnt pursue on getting JMM in the 3rd that he used too
prior to 1st and 2nd fight coz he respect JMM capable of decent punches on
countering and pac box him too and counters JMM sometimes. look at the 1st
round of the 3rd fight. pac box differently unlike the first fight.
JMM can avoid the most fastest hand speed and foot speed in the entire WW
division and that is pac and did it with back pedaling and counter punching.
i didnt say he can KO those guys anyway pac cant either too. we all know
JMM got problems with some LW guys but fights them differently than he
fought with pac. those WW guys are slower than pac like teddy atlas stating
being small and fast is kinda an advantage to a slower and bigger guys after
the pac/marg fight.
yeah he avioded pac's punches somehwat due to the fact that they have fought twice prior to the last fight, he knew how to fight pac....did he avoid katsidis's punches ?....do you believe katsidis is better than any of those guys you mentioned even not considering how huge them guys are compared to katsidis?..lol
what can he possibly do to them guys....cotto's weakeness is vs pressure fighters who can punch, do you expect him to put the pressure on cotto?..lol..do you expect him to be able to handle cotto's power?..marg's?..do you expect clottey to respect him as much as he did pac...berto ?..ortiz ?..
the only way he can win vs them guys is if he does'nt get caught flushed and we all know jmm is no mayweather....
unlike jmm, pac can crack even againts the big boys....jmm got kd'd vs a katsidis , stunned by diaz, you think he can handle big boy power?....cmon now, he gave pac problems but pac is his size.....there was never a sign or basis he can hang with way bigger, stronger guys ...
JMM can avoid the most fastest hand speed and foot speed in the entire WW
division and that is pac and did it with back pedaling and counter punching.
i didnt say he can KO those guys anyway pac cant either too. we all know
JMM got problems with some LW guys but fights them differently than he
fought with pac. those WW guys are slower than pac like teddy atlas stating
being small and fast is kinda an advantage to a slower and bigger guys after
the pac/marg fight.
He's already "campaigning in another weight class" just by fighting @ Lightweight.
And he's already proven that he can compete @ Welterweight by defeating the #2 Welterweight in the world. He just can't compete with THE BEST Welterweight in the division.
If he were to fight any of the top guys @ 147 and lose, it would be likely based moreso on the particular stylistic matchup and/or his age, as opposed to weight.
But i would favor Marquez over all of the top Welterweights outside of Mayweather.
Which is what everybody was saying prior to Pac's fights with De La Hoya & Cotto. You see how that turned out, didn't ya?
Skill/Technique > Miniscule weight differences
thats from a floyd fan point of view.
so that is pac. pac is the smallest WW around and the best competetive one.
any mexican fan there wanted to see their ATG guy fight at welter?