martinez starts from 147. as well as canelo.
pac starts at flyweight to 147 throughout his career.
and fought at 150 fighting marg who starts at 147.
its a challenge against pac and it is a test... but he stops at marg at 150.
it is pacs desicion why he fought marg only as you can see at that fight
pac fights good but look at his body.
pac can fight at 147 weighing 142-146 at fight night he weighs maybe 148-
150. some 147 he fought weighs more than 150+ except ODLH and JMM.
martinez or canelo cant get that recognition from fighting pac.
they need to fight bigger men not bigger names with less risks.
even floyd didnt fought marg.. he fought baldomir look at that fight it is not
that competetive and entertaining to watch but floyd WON it very
convincingly. floyd didnt fought marg coz marg fights differently to baldo. too
much risks. and floyd starts at 130.
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martinez starts from 147. as well as canelo.
pac starts at flyweight to 147 throughout his career.
and fought at 150 fighting marg who starts at 147.
its a challenge against pac and it is a test... but he stops at marg at 150.
it is pacs desicion why he fought marg only as you can see at that fight
pac fights good but look at his body.
pac can fight at 147 weighing 142-146 at fight night he weighs maybe 148-
150. some 147 he fought weighs more than 150+ except ODLH and JMM.
martinez or canelo cant get that recognition from fighting pac.
they need to fight bigger men not bigger names with less risks.
even floyd didnt fought marg.. he fought baldomir look at that fight it is not
that competetive and entertaining to watch but floyd WON it very
convincingly. floyd didnt fought marg coz marg fights differently to baldo. too
much risks. and floyd starts at 130.
Who cares about where Pac started at, or where Floyd started at. TODAY, They BOTH weigh in at 47 at ww, and they BOTH come in at 150. Floyd fights at jmw, and comes in at 150. Pac would do the same thing if he just stepped up, cuz Martinez is waay smaller than Margarito.
martinez starts from 147. as well as canelo.
pac starts at flyweight to 147 throughout his career.
and fought at 150 fighting marg who starts at 147.
its a challenge against pac and it is a test... but he stops at marg at 150.
it is pacs desicion why he fought marg only as you can see at that fight
pac fights good but look at his body.
pac can fight at 147 weighing 142-146 at fight night he weighs maybe 148-
150. some 147 he fought weighs more than 150+ except ODLH and JMM.
martinez or canelo cant get that recognition from fighting pac.
they need to fight bigger men not bigger names with less risks.
even floyd didnt fought marg.. he fought baldomir look at that fight it is not
that competetive and entertaining to watch but floyd WON it very
convincingly. floyd didnt fought marg coz marg fights differently to baldo. too
much risks. and floyd starts at 130.
bro, you have been proven wrong and owned to the point that you resorted to claiming you made a typo.
you claimed official weights were "claimed" by fighters & pacquiao "lied" about his official weights.
you feigning moral superiority is not going to change anything in this thread.
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Wow QUADRIPPLE smiley faces. You missed some points. Floyd did not weigh himself on the HBO Scale, after the fight he claimed he came in at 147. You try to be slick by using that word "official" as in weigh in BEFORE the fight, when you knew all along I was talking about gaining weight on fight night. Pacman always said he could barely make 147, yet he was 150 against Bradley. You say I claimed I made a typo right? When I broke down what I meant didnt it make sense? What you are forgetting, is that you had mispoken as well. You say I was proven wrong. When was this? All I remember is me responding to every single thing you said, and you getting mad and calling me names. Not to mention, I DO NOT CARE ABOUT BEING RIGHT OR WRONG. IF YOU PROVE ME WRONG, I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING I WAS WRONG. YOUR THE ONLY ONE WHO CARES ABOUT BEING RIGHT. Everyone has ganged up on you and proved everything you say to be trash. Yet your the one calling names. The facts are when Pac and Floyd fight at ww, they both weigh in at 47, and both come in at 150. That was my point. That is a fact as well. Its nothing for you to argue, but of course last time you tried to be slick and say, "Der Floyd weighed in at 151, and pac weighed in at 147" No shiet, because they fought at different weight classes. So I had to make it CLEAR that WHEN THEY FIGHT AT WW, They BOTH weigh in at 147, and come in at 150. I been saying this the whole night, and its a fact, I dont know why you even bother arguing over something thats a fact. Thats like me saying the sky is blue and you come on to try to talk everyone into thinking its green. Its no big deal. If Im wrong, then Im wrong. But Im not. You are. Why does being right, matter to you so much? Who cares?
WOW, You typed DOUBLE pretend-laughs this time. Bro I used to do this little troll crap when I was younger. No one is going to see your smiley faces, and let you trick them into thinking that you won a debate. You cant debate your way out of a wet paper bag. And when people see how you resort to insults, they will know who was frustrated. Its not even that big of a deal. If Im wrong, then Im wrong. I dont care about being right. But in this case, yo azz was WRONG!! And You DO care about being right. Well son...It hurts me more than it hurts you.
bro, you have been proven wrong and owned to the point that you resorted to claiming you made a typo.
you claimed official weights were "claimed" by fighters & pacquiao "lied" about his official weights.
you feigning moral superiority is not going to change anything in this thread.
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incorrect.
a natural welterweight in today's rehydration era officially comes in at 147 then balloons up to a division or two.
that is the norm actually in almost all divisions with almost all fighters.
like i said before, its not a opinion, its facts. backed up by weights & physical measurements.
floyd is bigger than manny & the truth is out there for people who want it.
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i quoted all of your stupidity, ill let people decide.
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WOW, You typed DOUBLE pretend-laughs this time. Bro I used to do this little troll crap when I was younger. No one is going to see your smiley faces, and let you trick them into thinking that you won a debate. You cant debate your way out of a wet paper bag. And when people see how you resort to insults, they will know who was frustrated. Its not even that big of a deal. If Im wrong, then Im wrong. I dont care about being right. But in this case, yo azz was WRONG!! And You DO care about being right. Well son...It hurts me more than it hurts you.
Sigh, so your really are not that smart. This your defense why they are not the same size? Manny right now is a natural WW meaning he doesn't go that much above 147. Floyd himself is also a natural WW. So your saying because of what he looks like when he got out of jail is proof that he isn't? Are you a idiot? The sole fact in his last fight in may proves he can't even make the 154 mark tells you what? I swear you guys are funny on here. You really should stop because you don't know what your talking about. But people love to forget that when Manny was fighting at 130 he was coming in the ring at over 140 pounds... But people love to forget this fact. But now all of a sudden, Floyd who couldn't make 154 is rehydrating to it... What sense does that even make? Why drain your self not to make 154 when your suppose to be fighting at 154? I am done here. I swear people hate on both Manny and Floyd and nothing will ever change their minds. Just ride them tell the end.
incorrect.
a natural welterweight in today's rehydration era officially comes in at 147 then balloons up to a division or two.
that is the norm actually in almost all divisions with almost all fighters.
like i said before, its not a opinion, its facts. backed up by weights & physical measurements.
floyd is bigger than manny & the truth is out there for people who want it.
You resort to insults when you cant prove people wrong. Im glad your done with me, and the way you dumped me, let me know where I stood. Tnx and gud day.
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i quoted all of your stupidity, ill let people decide.
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smdh....
im done with your dumbass.
You resort to insults when you cant prove people wrong. Im glad your done with me, and the way you dumped me, let me know where I stood. Tnx and gud day.
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pac fought margarito at 150 & officially weighed in at 144. how much more 154?
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no they are not the same size. this is not a opinion. this is a fact. backed up by physical statisics & offical weights.
did you see floyd come out of jail? & that was when he was complaining of losing too much weight.
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Sigh, so your really are not that smart. This your defense why they are not the same size? Manny right now is a natural WW meaning he doesn't go that much above 147. Floyd himself is also a natural WW. So your saying because of what he looks like when he got out of jail is proof that he isn't? Are you a idiot? The sole fact in his last fight in may proves he can't even make the 154 mark tells you what? I swear you guys are funny on here. You really should stop because you don't know what your talking about. But people love to forget that when Manny was fighting at 130 he was coming in the ring at over 140 pounds... But people love to forget this fact. But now all of a sudden, Floyd who couldn't make 154 is rehydrating to it... What sense does that even make? Why drain your self not to make 154 when your suppose to be fighting at 154? I am done here. I swear people hate on both Manny and Floyd and nothing will ever change their minds. Just ride them tell the end.
Yea cuz Roach said he wanted to maintain speed and power, remember? I just talked to another guy about this same thing bro. Floyd fights at 54, officially weighs in at 150, and comes in at 147. Pac's body would do the same thing. They both are small ww's, but they both fight at 47, and make weight fine. That small stuff, is no excuses. They are ww's period.
Floyd looked thin and weak when he came out of jail, his stomach was sucked in, and his head was too big for his body like he had lost weight. He had all them veins like a dope head.
smdh....
im done with your dumbass.
thats the heaviest manny has been 150 , floyd was 151 during his weigh in against cotto , floyd will be heavier on fight night there is no way he's gonna weigh lesser than that, whats so hard to understand ?
On fightnight, they will both be 150. You say the heaviest Manny has ever been was 150, but he lied about his weight so much, he probably walks around at 155. Floyd cant make 154 to save his life, so all this talk about him weighing more than 151 on fight night, is just your way of sticking up for Pacman. Why stick up for THAT guy out of all people. Why not just be a boxing fan that points out things that are right, and things that are wrong?
Floyd always makes 150 at ww, on fight night. Against Cotto, he claim to have come in at 147. He is just like Pac. If pac fought at 54, he will come in at 150, and probably be less on fight night, so whats the problem? Their bodies are the same.
thats the heaviest manny has been 150 , floyd was 151 during his weigh in against cotto , floyd will be heavier on fight night there is no way he's gonna weigh lesser than that, whats so hard to understand ?
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pac fought margarito at 150 & officially weighed in at 144. how much more 154?
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no they are not the same size. this is not a opinion. this is a fact. backed up by physical statisics & offical weights.
did you see floyd come out of jail? & that was when he was complaining of losing too much weight.
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Floyd looked thin and weak when he came out of jail, his stomach was sucked in, and his head was too big for his body like he had lost weight. He had all them veins like a dope head.
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pac fought margarito at 150 & officially weighed in at 144. how much more 154?
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no they are not the same size. this is not a opinion. this is a fact. backed up by physical statisics & offical weights.
did you see floyd come out of jail? & that was when he was complaining of losing too much weight.
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Yea cuz Roach said he wanted to maintain speed and power, remember? I just talked to another guy about this same thing bro. Floyd fights at 54, officially weighs in at 150, and comes in at 147. Pac's body would do the same thing. They both are small ww's, but they both fight at 47, and make weight fine. That small stuff, is no excuses. They are ww's period.
I dont care what Floyd did in 7 fights. Im talking about now. I dont care if Floyd cheated JMM, Or anything else that you all use to distract yourselves from admitting Im right. As of right now, they both weigh in at 47 at ww, and come in at 150, at ww. So whats the problem? I had someone tell me about a week ago, that Floyd would duck Pac by trying to fight him at 54. If he tried to fight pac at 54, they both would weigh in at 150-151, and they both would come in at 150 or less. Whats the problem?
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pac fought margarito at 150 & officially weighed in at 144. how much more 154?
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Your not that smart... Floyd and Manny as of right now are the same size. Manny is a natural WW as well as Floyd. There is a reason why twice when Floyd fought at 154 he couldn't make it to that mark. We need to remember that when he fought DLH he came in at I believe 149 or something like that and went back down to 148 on the fight night. His fight with Cotto he came in at 151 I believe. That tells you he cannot make 154 because why would he drain his self when he can just meet Cotto at 154? There would be ZERO reason for Floyd not to make it to 154 if he could. There is a reason why Floyd has always been called a "small" WW. But you would have to know about boxing to know this. A fighter like Ortiz is considered a big WW because he comes in the ring at something like 15+ pounds then the official weigh-in. Just like Canelo is considered a big 154er and Cotto is considered a small 154er. Floyd and Manny can fight at 140 IF they wanted to because they are the same size.
no they are not the same size. this is not a opinion. this is a fact. backed up by physical statisics & offical weights.
did you see floyd come out of jail? & that was when he was complaining of losing too much weight.
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floyd came in at 151 , who knows how heavy he was during fight night , manny made 150 once and thats him on fight night
Floyd always makes 150 at ww, on fight night. Against Cotto, he claim to have come in at 147. He is just like Pac. If pac fought at 54, he will come in at 150, and probably be less on fight night, so whats the problem? Their bodies are the same.
floyd can fill 154 better than manny
Again, why why why do you keep going in circles about size and mass? Just cuz you want to protect some guy who doesnt even know you? Its plenty of fighters with wide frames, in lower weight classes, or small frames in higher weight classes. None of that matters. If you can make the weight, then thats where you fight at. And you say Floyd can fill 54 better than manny, almost like your taking up for manny, and throwing Floyd to the side. Whats that supposed to do? Nickah, I dont care about protecting Floyd. Manny needs to just be honest about his weight, and improve his legacy. Fighting a shot JMM, instead of Sergio or Canelo. The only guys who can test him, are those fighters in higher weight classes. He already lost to bradley, and the fight was horrible, yet thats the only guy at ww, who can test him besides Floyd.
Canelo and Martinez are reserved for Floyd. If FLoyd wont give the fans the Pac fight, Sergio and Canelo are waiting on the sidelines as replacements for Pac.
Pac fights 10 times in 5 years, and Floyd fights 2 times in 5 years. Is it asking too much for Floyd to fight Canelo and Sergio.......seriously? Floyd isnt retired now so what problem have some people got with Floyd fighting?
Floyd fought 2 times in 5 years? Bro can you even count? Don't argue boxing if you don't even know GRADE SCHOOL MATH! Floyd's fought 5 times in the last 5 years and easily beat the guy Manny hasn't be able to beat convincingly in THREE tries.
Like Floyd when he went up? Come on man, both Pac and Floyd both know how to carry their weight to different classes.
floyd came in at 151 , who knows how heavy he was during fight night , manny made 150 once and thats him on fight night
now i think you're trolling.
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Floyd has had 7 fights at welterweight. He has always offically weighed at 146 & up.
Pac has had 6 fights at welterweight. He has only officially weighed in at 147 once. the bradley fight.
be gone you imbecile.
Your not that smart... Floyd and Manny as of right now are the same size. Manny is a natural WW as well as Floyd. There is a reason why twice when Floyd fought at 154 he couldn't make it to that mark. We need to remember that when he fought DLH he came in at I believe 149 or something like that and went back down to 148 on the fight night. His fight with Cotto he came in at 151 I believe. That tells you he cannot make 154 because why would he drain his self when he can just meet Cotto at 154? There would be ZERO reason for Floyd not to make it to 154 if he could. There is a reason why Floyd has always been called a "small" WW. But you would have to know about boxing to know this. A fighter like Ortiz is considered a big WW because he comes in the ring at something like 15+ pounds then the official weigh-in. Just like Canelo is considered a big 154er and Cotto is considered a small 154er. Floyd and Manny can fight at 140 IF they wanted to because they are the same size.