In his prime, Pac is proven and the other two are not thus far so I'd go with Pac but with a bit of difficulty with Crawford's style and Spence's power. Let's see how their careers unfold.
Despite all the bashing that Oscar gets here I think most real knowledgeable fans know what prime Oscar was about.
Oscar beats both possibly stops them too, that left hook was quick and lethal.
Absolutely this.
Haye was finished when he pulled out of the Fury fight. Everyone knew his body was done as did his trainer, Adam Booth. When he came back, who did he fight and what ranking were they? Why didn't Adam Booth continue training him as he was with him from the beginning?
Bellew knew this and clearly stated "his legs are gone" when he challenged him. This is the guy who couldn't put a dent in Cleverly at LHW nor Cruiser.
Bellew did well to over-achieve and get lucky with Haye but every time he really stepped up to a fair and square challenge (Stevenson and Usyk), he was destroyed.
Stupid. WTF has Spence done? Only has 1 IBF belt in 1 weight class. Fair enough if he was a multi-weight and/or multi-belt holder with PPV-star status but othewise, no!
I am a big Rocky fan but what is this bull? Firstly, is Adonis going to fight every son of every main fighter from the Rocky movies?! Secondly, Wilder is nothing like Clubber except that they are the same colour.
Prime Pac was amazing but some people seem to forget or didn't see a prime Oscar. Oscar wins in my view. Manny really wasn't a true Welter and Oscar could comfortably fight at 154lbs.
Degale has good skills and I don't know if it's because of his (lack of) stamina that he keeps going to the ropes but he definitely does not need to fight a war with everyone when he could easily box their ears off.
I think he needed a better trainer to bring out the best in him, a few years back.
Joshua watched tapes and trained to ensure he doesn't get hit with it. Wlad didn't adjust and kept wasting effort trying to throw it again and again instead of coming up with something else. Unfortunate but simple.
Adam Booth must be fuming, as i believe him and David Haye parted ways over Haye having disagreements with his training!
I'm sure Haye said it was too intense (fitness focussed and high impact), causing him injuries and he needed to train smarter.
Perfectly said.
This has been Haye's forte since coming to HW.
Find the safest route to a paper title, and/or big money fight.
Last time he did it by barely beating Valuev to get Wlad fight. He wouldn't have even fought Valuev if he could have just talked his way into a Wlad fight.
This time it was to be either Bellew in a domestic showdown, capitalizing on Bellew's recent string of success at CW, or to win a version of the WBA title against Briggs. He figured Bellew would be a bit easier than Briggs cause Briggs would at least have a puncher's chance.
Blew up in his face this time, and I'm loving every minute.
I agree with this, my point is just around the injury (whether it's pre-fight or happened during the fight).
I have read in David Haye's book, that Haye would sometimes rebel against Adam Booth's authority! due to the intensity of the training! but apparently Adam Booth was the only person who David Haye really respected! (Nobody else could really tame him)....
I predicted last night that David Haye will return to Adam Booth! if there is ever a rematch with Toney Bellew..? (I am almost 100% confident that he will return to Booth!)....
It was sad to see them part ways, as they had such a close unique relationship! (They both created each other!)...
Agree 100%
Haye was off balance from the first round which is uncharacteristic for him. Looks like he brought the injury in with him but couldn't pull out before hand as he would have been shredded. Be interesting to know how bad the injury is, especially considering he carried on a few rounds with it.
Why would Haye fly out so close to a fight to see a doctor if not injured?
See a knee/ achilles/ leg specialist and be 'ruled fit' or just be going to say hello, yet get a knee/ achilles/ leg injury halfway through the fight?
Seems a little 'coincidental'.
If he did all that he would be climbing up those great rankings but I don't think GGG will go anywhere near Ward, Kovalev or Beterbiev. Remember all that Roy Jones Jr achieved so he certainly shouldn't be higher than him unless he earns it.
Golovkin's record is just as good as Ward's imo.
Golovkin has beat all the top contenders in his weight class just like Ward. The only difference is some of the guys Ward beat are better in the media like Froch. just LOL @ that dude being some skillful fighter. Bowlegged frankenstein that actually ducked GGG.
Froch has some decent names on his record (Kessler, Ward, Bute, Dirrell, Abrahm, Taylor, Pascal, Reid etc.)a nd GGG has no one of note except Brook who came up from two weight classes below.
Froch was also basically already retired and decided whether to continue or not when GGG called him out. I think it would have been a good fight but would GGG have drawn 80,000 fans to Wembley? I doubt it, so why bother?
SMW was a better division than GGG's MW era. However, GGG has beaten everyone who fights him and it's not his fault this era for MW is weak, therefore, he should move up. He's not significantly smaller than RJJ and he climbed up the weight classes after starting at 152 lbs.