sure i can buy his 33 year old "body" reasoning
but to me i think he still feels disrespected...and to some degree he should feel that way
but his rate of pay will no longer be on par with his standing in the game and level of accomplishments.....he simply isnt embraced and he hit his high notes with the kovalev fights.....now, accepting any less money, will not be worth it to him and will be a step back....and i dont think anyone can really afford to pay him that money or more again
its simply not worth it for him to get ready and go into a fight while making 2-3 million when hes probably the most accomplished man in boxing now
Ward got way overpaid for the Kovalev fights, $5M and $6.5M. He was guaranteed more for the 2nd Kovalev fight than Canelo was guaranteed for the Golovkin fight. :lol1: :lol1: Take a second to process that.
I don't think getting paid $1M to fight the likes of Beterbiev, Gvozdyk, etc. was very appealing to him. I don't doubt that he'd come back if he was offered another $6.5M though.
Not at all, if you're an actual boxing fan, and don't care about who has to pay him that money. Kovalev was the legit #1 contender, or the "champion" at that weight class, and you can say they both dominated that division, besides having fought Stevenson (which is completely laughable that a few fans actually think him and Kov ducked him lol), and they both fought each other in their primes, and at their respective weight classes.
Other than Crawford, I can't think of another fighter that's done that. And these were 2 well known, and the highest regarded fighters, so of course they both earned that pay.
Ward got way overpaid for the Kovalev fights, $5M and $6.5M. He was guaranteed more for the 2nd Kovalev fight than Canelo was guaranteed for the Golovkin fight. :lol1: :lol1: Take a second to process that.
I don't think getting paid $1M to fight the likes of Beterbiev, Gvozdyk, etc. was very appealing to him. I don't doubt that he'd come back if he was offered another $6.5M though.
On a side note here's the thing, if you're a fighter that should be your full-time job so you have to take extra care of your body. Yes its hard to workout, spar etc but also why do you as a professional athlete let your body get out of shape then beat it up to lose the weight etc ect I dont get it. You are making life way difficult for yourself. Now talking about purses, the problem is that fighters are looking up to Floyd Mayweather type of purses because they have a belt and that doesn't come overnight. You have to produce good results and entertain and Ward was missing the entertainment factor. Now a 1-2 million dollar purse per fight is not bad at all against good opposition if u wanna make more money then fight more often. You cant expect to be paid 5 million to fight say Beterbiev because he dont have a big name therefore he doesn't bring that much money to the table.
TBH I can see this as a rationale, I would be angry as well, considering the legal battle he had to go thru to get out of his contract it hurt his ability to fight, then to have an MMA fighter come in and with sheer **** talking (to the level that Ric Flair would be proud) and to make more cash in one fight then he did in his whole career....
I would retire and invest what i made also.
The problem here is he was wrong legally and ethically when he sued his promoter. The courts ruled against him every time. So he was not some lowly fighter being taken advantage of by his promoter, quite the opposite.
I guess he's feelings are hurt that some D level boxer like Connor McGregor made more money in one boxing match than he did his entire career
TBH I can see this as a rationale, I would be angry as well, considering the legal battle he had to go thru to get out of his contract it hurt his ability to fight, then to have an MMA fighter come in and with sheer **** talking (to the level that Ric Flair would be proud) and to make more cash in one fight then he did in his whole career....
I would retire and invest what i made also.
So you're not saying he retired to duck those two boxers but he is actually retiring to duck those two boxers.
:lol1: NSB
I'm saying he probably isn't in love with fighting anymore and he's smart enough to know there's young guys like those i mentioned coming up behind him that would possibly beat him if his heart isn't in the game... and those fighters probably won't bring enough money to make him consider staying in the game.
You can see how ward thinks. He won Olympic gold, set out to be a world champ and did it. Not only did it but cleaned out a division. He then set his sights on the weight class above, then cleaned it out. His first thoughts were of going to heavyweight, but he's not built for that. He did what he came to do and left as a champ
That might well be true but Ward doesn't love fighting, he's talked of retirement a few times. Add to that he's approaching mid 30's.
Not saying he's running from these guys specifically but i'm sure he knows with age and lack of enthusiasm, these guys coming through are going to be tough for him.
So you're not saying he retired to duck those two boxers but he is actually retiring to duck those two boxers.
:lol1: NSB
I just think he had enough especially with the Bellew fight not happening, I think he was interested in that fight and the payday it represent but as soon as the Haye rematch came through for bellew then Ward didn't think there was anything else out there to make him want to get up. Like someone else said if they offer him a career payday tomorrow for another big fight then am sure he would take it.
there is ONE reason he is retiring, and ONE reason only: MONEY.
Roc Nation isnt going to re-up him a new deal with those stupid guarantees, and his conversations with Top Rank clued him in on his REAL market value. And he simply will not fight for the numbers that represent his drawing power. He expects someone to lose millions in order for him to fight, and that just aint happening no more.
Agreed, I have been saying this all day. This guy is so out of touch. Remember, he sued a dying man for no real good reason other than he thought he deserved more and more and the courts kept telling Ward he was full of ****, but he kept bringing lawsuits and they kept getting thrown out. He gave no evidence as to why he deserved so much $. He is just a narcissist.
he already took 5 years off after the super six and fought a few janitors and cab drivers. how the fuk can his body be so broken down after fighting these nobodies and how does he think he is worth big paydays when he cant draw flies to chit
The guy had to give away free tickets to his fights in his own hometown. He is the first fighter I ever saw try to sink the profits of one of his own pay per view fights (Kov rematch) just because he was pissed he had to honor his contract.
A unification bout with Stevenson might have made some money if promoted right.
Problem is he is so arrogant he thinks his name alone is promotion enough. He is too egotistical to go and do the hard work it takes to build up a fight. He thinks it is beneath him. He is so arrogant he said the most important point he won during the Kov rematch negotiations was he wanted his name first on the billing. That is how he thinks.
Because unlike like the music industry where the Beibers of the world can still make millions with their sh1tty music, there's only so many boxing fans willing to pay for someone who's always in sh1tty, boring a$$ fights.
sure i can buy his 33 year old "body" reasoning
but to me i think he still feels disrespected...and to some degree he should feel that way
but his rate of pay will no longer be on par with his standing in the game and level of accomplishments.....he simply isnt embraced and he hit his high notes with the kovalev fights.....now, accepting any less money, will not be worth it to him and will be a step back....and i dont think anyone can really afford to pay him that money or more again
its simply not worth it for him to get ready and go into a fight while making 2-3 million when hes probably the most accomplished man in boxing now
he was able to get the pro cheater fanbase but the anti cheater fanbase never came around for some reason
Needing a ref and judges to secure victories
And social media and the world knowing it
Didnt help.
Most people- over 85 percent of viewers think kovalev was robbed of a great win vs ward in fight 1. Mayweather included.
Most people -over 80 percent of viewers think ward low blowed kovalev 3 times in the last minute of their 2nd fight and the fight was stopped off low blows without a 5 min break or count by the ref for needing the ropes.
Two controversial endings to dirty career .
there is ONE reason he is retiring, and ONE reason only: MONEY.
Roc Nation isnt going to re-up him a new deal with those stupid guarantees, and his conversations with Top Rank clued him in on his REAL market value. And he simply will not fight for the numbers that represent his drawing power. He expects someone to lose millions in order for him to fight, and that just aint happening no more.
This.
I don't know how he got more to fight Krusher than Canelo against GGG.
Plus if the judges were fair or if he fought overseas with neutral judges... his undefeated record would be in real jeopardy.
there is ONE reason he is retiring, and ONE reason only: MONEY.
Roc Nation isnt going to re-up him a new deal with those stupid guarantees, and his conversations with Top Rank clued him in on his REAL market value. And he simply will not fight for the numbers that represent his drawing power. He expects someone to lose millions in order for him to fight, and that just aint happening no more.
he already took 5 years off after the super six and fought a few janitors and cab drivers. how the fuk can his body be so broken down after fighting these nobodies and how does he think he is worth big paydays when he cant draw flies to chit
I guess he's feelings are hurt that some D level boxer like Connor McGregor made more money in one boxing match than he did his entire career