Would Hearn keep AJ away from Povetkin?

Redd...you and I both know Hearn is gonna pave a cushy path as long as he can for that musclebound square...they took a gamble against old Wlad and won and want to milk that sh*t... I'm not convinced he's EVER going to make the Wilder fight and sell his bread 'n' butter's 0...

Hearn would make the fight, it would sell. Povetkin is easy to sell But if Povetkin isn't a valid opponent for Wilder, he shouldn't be for Joshua either. Simple as that

Post Wlad, Povetkin seemed to gain a lot of power which he didn't disbplay as much in previous fights - e.g. Huck. Povetkin changed trainers and lost weight. One of the things his new trainer instilled was about being in shape year round and now cardio and stamina are a core component of Povetkins routine. I think this is what most people miss, Povetkin always got by on his power and skills but he was always out of shape. His tough fights with Huck and Wlad made him change trainers and he is a whole different fighter. To anyone who follows him in the Russian media, this is no surprise but this is how Povetkin is more like Hopkins and Floyd, always remaining in fight shape throughout the year. As far as crowds, Povetkin is not a well known name in the states but he is in a Russia and Europe and sells out crowds. That is why for it to be profitable, it needs to be in Europe. AJ vs Povetkin can easily be a cash or fight for either boxer. Plenty of money in Europe and certainly a PPV event. Anyone who keeps bringing up Huck is a freaking idiot and Wlad.... well, Povetkin is one of the few who actually went the full twelve rounds with Wlad.... and that is all while he was completely out of shape.

Post Wlad, Povetkin seemed to gain a lot of power which he didn't display as much in previous fights - e.g. Huck.

Ah, thx. I personally don't see the kind of reward they're looking for with AJ. They seem to have blatantly positioned him to be a cash cow. Hearn isn't even shy about it and even his fans always talk about how big he is and the money needs to make sense. Povetkin doesn't seem to to fall into that picture, IMO. Like I said though, I think AJ himself would fight anyone. I'm welcome to disagreement though. Created the thread to get some different opinions and angles. I don't think they positioned him, it just happened. I remember Hearn gave an interview in the early days where even he was shocked by the tv numbers, social media hits, and ticket sales. I remember Hearn saying Joshua-Whyte outsold Quigg-Frampton x4 his first headline ppv. That may not seem shocking today, but at the time it was. Frampton is a star, and Quigg is huge in Manchester, the build-up was heavily publicised, it was a proper fight, unification, bad blood, crowd pleasing styles. Joshua-Whyte was for the damn commonwealth title! Dont get me wrong it had a good build up too, Whyte sold it, and it was heated, but I think from that point they knew they had a commercial freak on their hands. I think heavyweights always have a one up with casuals.

I don't see why they would avoid him. Also he might be the only opponent AJ can face that might make them an offer. I don't understand this idea that AJ is being protected somehow. He's a heavyweight, he's gonna get chinned at some stage even the casuals that go to his fights understand that. Even Ortiz would probably be easy to negotiate with and earn AJ his £15 million. I don’t get the protection tagged neither, he has had 20 fights as a pro within 4 years. He that resume for someone of his calibre is not bad at all. He had to be rushed because he was stopping every one. If not he should still be learning his trade.

I don't see why they would avoid him. Also he might be the only opponent AJ can face that might make them an offer. I don't understand this idea that AJ is being protected somehow. He's a heavyweight, he's gonna get chinned at some stage even the casuals that go to his fights understand that. Even Ortiz would probably be easy to negotiate with and earn AJ his £15 million.

I stopped reading at "thank". Do you know what, I can't do it, can't be as big a tit as you lol. To answer the thread, as someone already said, Povetkin not on PED's goes life and death with Huck. Also I think AJ's stock has gone down a bit too much from people here, I think there has been an overreaction to the Takam performance, who himself has been a little underrated. Clearly it's a dangerous fight - but I don't think it's one that Hearn or AJ would avoid. I think with a full camp preparing for Povetkins style would yield a better performance. In fact Takam would be a great sparring partner. Truthfully didn't read because I already know what's coming but thx for the bump.

Thank goodness. That was there to scare away the insecure AJ fans that can't have an honest discussion, and it seems to be working for the most part. I stopped reading at "thank". Do you know what, I can't do it, can't be as big a tit as you lol. To answer the thread, as someone already said, Povetkin not on PED's goes life and death with Huck. Also I think AJ's stock has gone down a bit too much from people here, I think there has been an overreaction to the Takam performance, who himself has been a little underrated. Clearly it's a dangerous fight - but I don't think it's one that Hearn or AJ would avoid. I think with a full camp preparing for Povetkins style would yield a better performance. In fact Takam would be a great sparring partner.

I misspoke I meant low reward. Ah, thx. I personally don't see the kind of reward they're looking for with AJ. They seem to have blatantly positioned him to be a cash cow. Hearn isn't even shy about it and even his fans always talk about how big he is and the money needs to make sense. Povetkin doesn't seem to to fall into that picture, IMO. Like I said though, I think AJ himself would fight anyone. I'm welcome to disagreement though. Created the thread to get some different opinions and angles.

Who said he was "low risk"? (I'm legitimately asking) I misspoke I meant low reward.

Huck is a terrific fighter but Povetkin outweighed him by 30+ lbs come fight night. Not only that, Huck was busier, braver and smarter., he was also the one hurting the MUCH bigger man. Most who saw the fight at felt Huck one, famously his own trainer Atlas lol So yeah, this guy aint beating AJ and isnt someone hearn would worry about. I agree he wouldn't beat AJ

Am I missing something or is Huck now considered a bum? Huck is a great fighter, and he and Povetkin are the same height and Huck has a reach advantage. Huck was one of the best modern Cruisers - Povetkin still beat him. Huck is a terrific fighter but Povetkin outweighed him by 30+ lbs come fight night. Not only that, Huck was busier, braver and smarter., he was also the one hurting the MUCH bigger man. Most who saw the fight at felt Huck one, famously his own trainer Atlas lol So yeah, this guy aint beating AJ and isnt someone hearn would worry about.

Why? When did POvetkin become a killer puncher? Yeah he had some better performances post Wlad but this is a guy who got beat up by Huck and showed no balls against Wlad. AJ kills him. Pulev v AJ is more interesting. Thing is, all those fights are meaningless compared to AJ picking up the WBO or WBC and owning 3/4 available belts. Am I missing something or is Huck now considered a bum? Huck is a great fighter, and he and Povetkin are the same height and Huck has a reach advantage. Huck was one of the best modern Cruisers - Povetkin still beat him.

He beats Wilder he'll be the biggest star in the sport, wont matter what belts he has. Noone will tell him who he has to fight. One of the bodies tells him he has to fight Charr or some other mandatory and Furys ready to fight, why not drop the belt? Because being the only heavyweight champion has intrinsic value to it. The WBC WBA IBF are all working together in the timing of mandatories, so they're not likely to step on a big fight in name of getting their mandatory through (Charr is at least two fights away from being mandatory anyway). Beyond that, do you honestly think that the WBC/WBA/IBF wouldn't try to set things up so that Tyson Fury stands as one of the mandatories? lol. The IBF is on a 12-month cycle, the WBC on basically a 14-month cycle, and the WBA a bit longer than that; between rotating through the mandatories, free periods to fight whomever will manifest.

I am not sure how good Povetkin really is, and how many of those "big wins" were assisted by whatever he was taking. IMO, Povetkin will look how he looked against Huck, and that Povetkin is no match for AJ. Directly related to the question - I see many fights Hearn could give AJ rather than to put him with Povetkin. It isn't like fans are asking for Povetkin fight.

Just fans in Russia though, right? I don't see a lot of support outside there and I don't think that means anything to Hearn because I cannot conceive that he'd ever send AJ to Russia. I think he'd do anything possible to prevent that. I don't know if he can. If Povetkin becomes mandatory and it goes to purse bid, Hearn will not have enough money to win the purse bid - Ryabinsky has insane money.

I think Hearn is more scared of Ortiz than Povetkin. Povetkin is actually known and brings a resume and money to the table, he isn’t low reward, Joshua is the top name at HW so he is a target for everyone, Hearn cannot put Joshua in cotton wool especially if he carries around 3 major belts, he would have to defend it against high risk fighter, unless Joshua does a Bowe and dump the belt when he sees a high risk fighter.

I stopped reading at "first". Thank goodness. That was there to scare away the insecure AJ fans that can't have an honest discussion, and it seems to be working for the most part.

I stopped reading at "first".