Haye vs Bellew RBR

I was one of those that called this fight a mismatch. I genuinely expected Haye to get Bellew out of there in the first or second round. Boy O boy what an upset this was

I think Adam Booth is a smug arsehole but he's smart and he's got too much integrity for that. I'm convinced he left Haye because of the injuries and wanting him to stay in retirement. Booth didn't leave Haye, I know Booth is viewed as being a smug arsehole but him and David had a great relationship, he knows how to manage and train the guy, while their was genuine trust between trainer & fighter, but only David can answer why he isn't with Booth, because Haye needs an experienced trainer in his corner, not some young pup looking up to him in awe.

Only 5 people picked Bellew by KO before the fight. The rest of the 24 did after the 5th round and also 14 of those 24 people voted after the fight because it was actually at 10 when the fight ended :lol1:

If Haye is reading this, he needs to pick up the phone and return to Adam Booth. It's the only way. You surround yourself with people who care, people who know you inside and out and that is how Haye can end his career on a high. I say high because Haye simply isn't the fighter he was, but rematch with Bellew. Booth in his corner and end his career with some respect. I think Adam Booth is a smug arsehole but he's smart and he's got too much integrity for that. I'm convinced he left Haye because of the injuries and wanting him to stay in retirement.

d Haye's injury! (The levels of sportsmanship being shown is a disgrace!).......whatever David Haye has lost inside of himself? he needs to find it again! from my perspective there is no way a man, and fighter of David Haye's ability and stature can retire from the game like this.. If Haye is reading this, he needs to pick up the phone and return to Adam Booth. It's the only way. You surround yourself with people who care, people who know you inside and out and that is how Haye can end his career on a high. I say high because Haye simply isn't the fighter he was, but rematch with Bellew. Booth in his corner and end his career with some respect.

This is getting way out of hand now! The way SkySports and even Tony Bellew, are ignoring David Haye's injury! (The levels of sportsmanship being shown is a disgrace!).......whatever David Haye has lost inside of himself? he needs to find it again! from my perspective there is no way a man, and fighter of David Haye's ability and stature can retire from the game like this.... There is no easy way out!

It was actually quite sad to see David Haye in that condition. Swinging like a town drunk from the first bell, no composure, erratic and he looked bloated. in complete contrast to Haye of his prime. Regardless of how you view Haye and his ability, even his biggest critic knows Haye has skills but while Haye may have genetics to match a Greek God, you can't control your body as you get older, it controls you. Haye is simply finished as a HW fighter. Compare the condition of Haye from 2012 when he faced Dereck Chisora - that was his perfect size. Also back then he was surrounded by the right people and once you surround yourself with the wrong crowd, they drag you down to their level. Listen my friend David Haye, you have had a great career but time is against you and I'm telling you this from experience, when you get older, and bitter and desperate, there is only one outcome. FAILURE!! When someone of Hayes ability is losing to a fat boy like Bellew, it's time to accept your career is ending with ridicule but make no mistake, Bellew and his boys respect Haye for his boxing career, what he's achieved and they will be envious of his genetics, they just enjoy having their moment because it doesn't come often! Oh and David Haye if you're reading this and you refuse to retire, please return to Adam Booth, you were pals for a long time, more than trainer/student, it was a team effort. Go for a drink, have a chat and if you really have to fight again, end your career with the man who helped you achieve your ambitions.

I thought Shane McGuigan was a disgrace last night. Now, it's no secret that I cannot stand David Haye, but McGuigan had to pull Haye out of the fight almost as soon as he suffered that injury. It's ****ing dangerous. Haye showed more heart than ever thought he had, and Bellew did what he had to do.

I agree! i have mentioned his pad-work in numerous posts! it seemed very poor indeed... His surname and the success of the ever talented Frampton have brought him so far. But its also a problem elsewhere in boxing, with too many trainers being involved in the fitness side of things with very little knowledge on the boxing aspects.

Shane's been training Frampton for years now. I've seen his pad work a million times. He is not a boxing trainer. it has nothing to do with what he felt like around Haye. I agree! i have mentioned his pad-work in numerous posts! it seemed very poor indeed...

He was in awe of David Haye! but as a boxing trainer, i actually think Shane Mcguigan will learn from this experience and grow! (In my opinion he had too much respect for Haye!).....David Haye is a gifted athlete genetically, even at the age of 36! he could probably train himself to look the part aesthetically! But as a David Haye fan, i have to be honest with myself? the muscles are a complete illusion! One thing that always impressed me about David Haye, when he was with Adam Booth? was the intensity and attention to detail within their training camps! some of money they would spend on sparring partners, was immense! we only have to look back to his first camp when he was in preparation for Tyson Fury.....(The levels in intensity where vividly apparent!). On a personal level, i also think David Haye has been suffering since his wife filed for a divorce. She was not some bimbo, and was with him before he even had a driving license...haha! Shane's been training Frampton for years now. I've seen his pad work a million times. He is not a boxing trainer. it has nothing to do with what he felt like around Haye.

MacGuigan just isn't a boxing trainer. He can be there to guide a fighter through nutrition, how to stay healthy but his pad work looks pretty bad, he doesn't know how to give fighters boxing advice in between rounds and he has no back up plan. I think Haye needs to go back to Booth. He was in awe of David Haye! but as a boxing trainer, i actually think Shane Mcguigan will learn from this experience and grow! (In my opinion he had too much respect for Haye!).....David Haye is a gifted athlete genetically, even at the age of 36! he could probably train himself to look the part aesthetically! But as a David Haye fan, i have to be honest with myself? the muscles are a complete illusion! One thing that always impressed me about David Haye, when he was with Adam Booth? was the intensity and attention to detail within their training camps! some of money they would spend on sparring partners, was immense! we only have to look back to his first camp when he was in preparation for Tyson Fury.....(The levels in intensity where vividly apparent!). On a personal level, i also think David Haye has been suffering since his wife filed for a divorce. She was not some bimbo, and was with him before he even had a driving license...haha! I will be eagerly awaiting a statement from David Haye, upon his future....

If David Haye can fight again? there is no way goes out of the game like this! I have just read that the Hospital surgeons have come to a conclusion that they don't need to implement surgery on Hayes Achilles! (This can only be good news for his potential recovery!)..... I was also happy to see Shane Mcguigan last night, finally showing some real emotional support for Haye! (Footage has appeared of Shane Mcguigan attacking a fan! who i presume was giving Haye abuse as they exited the ring!)... Last night as i was laying in bed, i was watching Tony Bellew post fight press conference! and to be honest, i smiled and was humored by his words! (I got abit emotional, when he was stating that he has always looked up to David Haye! Bellew in my opinion has brought Haye back down into physical reality! it will be interesting to see how his relationship with Shane Mcguigan stabilizes after such a dramatic loss!).... MacGuigan just isn't a boxing trainer. He can be there to guide a fighter through nutrition, how to stay healthy but his pad work looks pretty bad, he doesn't know how to give fighters boxing advice in between rounds and he has no back up plan. I think Haye needs to go back to Booth.

If David Haye can fight again? there is no way goes out of the game like this! I have just read that the Hospital surgeons have come to a conclusion that they don't need to implement surgery on Hayes Achilles! (This can only be good news for his potential recovery!)..... I was also happy to see Shane Mcguigan last night, finally showing some real emotional support for Haye! (Footage has appeared of Shane Mcguigan attacking a fan! who i presume was giving Haye abuse as they exited the ring!)... Last night as i was laying in bed, i was watching Tony Bellew post fight press conference! and to be honest, i smiled and was humored by his words! (I got abit emotional, when he was stating that he has always looked up to David Haye! Bellew in my opinion has brought Haye back down into physical reality! it will be interesting to see how his relationship with Shane Mcguigan stabilizes after such a dramatic loss!)....

Googled torn Achilles "The Achilles tendon is at the back of the heel. It can be ruptured by sudden force on the foot or ankle. If your Achilles tendon is ruptured you will be unable to stand on tiptoe and will have a flat-footed walk" Flat footed walk........pretty decent match, not just a sprained ankle like people are just guessing

I had Haye 4-1 going into the 6th. After such a good round 1, Bellew refused to or could not, throw punches. He did showcase one heck of a chin though. I also had him 4-1 and agreed on the chin. Apparently he went for surgery immediately after the fight. Ironic that it was Haye that went home in an ambulance.

i wonder who hit bellew harder, makabu or haye, i wonder who bellew would say he said after the fight that he's never felt power like hayes, he said he couldnt take much more of it haye broke tonys nose

i wonder who hit bellew harder, makabu or haye, i wonder who bellew would say

Tony's facial expression was interesting, definitely noticed Haye's injury. Surprised no one has mentioned this yet but, when Haye sat down in the corner at the end of the 6th, he said to Shane Mcguigan 'I've ruptured my achilles'. There must of been something in the rumours of his achilles injury, will be interesting to see how serious it turns out to be. I had Haye up at the start of the 6th and would like to see a rematch but it's the end of Haye's chance of retaining the HW belt. I had Haye 4-1 going into the 6th. After such a good round 1, Bellew refused to or could not, throw punches. He did showcase one heck of a chin though.

Bellew was very poor. Credit to him for lasting a few rounds but the guy was still being tagged by a one-legged man, his work rate was poor and he barely landed anything clean on a guy struggling to stand up Honest assessment. But the lack of heavyweight power and stamina for Bellew and a one legged, past his best Haye combined for a great fight though. One of the best in many, many years. Pure drama and guts. I always think a great fight is one you would show someone who has never watched a boxing match but obviously knows of boxing and various media representations of the sport. Haye v Bellew is on that list now.