Would have been a more competitive fight but I don't think Oscar would have been able to handle his speed and punch volume. Manny by UD.
Oscar would be a stone heavier not lighter than Manny as was the case when they fought , that makes an enormous difference to all facets of the fight from getting off too having power snap and resistance.
The CW killed Oscar as a matter of fact the Oscar that fought Floyd and came in on the night at 163 lbs would beat Manny, when Mannys CWs stopped so did his devastating wins and everybody in the bigger weights started troubling him., when guys were brought up in weight like JMM Rios etc Manny got KOed and never showed any power because its a lot different when the opponent is strong and not weakened by a draining CW.
Now prime Oscar lets say the Chavez version of Oscar would destroy Manny, just too big fast and powerful, if JMM can go life and death and also ice Manny then Oscar would tear him a new one.
Oscar threw a lot but wasnt landing much..Floyd rocked him matter of fact..Oscar got figured out and that is why he slowed down
It wasn't the first fight he slowed down, it was in his makeup, even though on occasion be really dragged the fire out of himself late in fights. But you have to consider that at that point Oscar was a part time fighter who wasn't particularly disciplined when away from the ring.
But I must disagree that Floyd was having an easy time in there. It was a tough fight for him, but it was more about concentration and tactics rather than physical.
Historically and in a p4p sense Floyd is undoubtedly the greater fighter, but Oscar in his prime is pretty much even money against Floyd. By the time Floyd fought him, Oscars handspeed, movement, and reflexes had significantly dropped off yet he still won 4 rounds.
We all know DLH was past his prime when they fought but how do you think Pac would have fared against a prime DLH?
Prime Pac-Man was a beast, he smashed up Cotto, Margs, Mosley, ..... everyone
DLH would have lasted a few more rounds but end up pissing blood the next day again.
Them lefts made Oscar scared to actually throw anything in his fight with Manny.
Oscar looked like he was cringing waiting to be knocked out.
Its the worst display of cowardice i have ever seen in pro boxing.
Yea cause Oscar was a walking corpse, Prime vs Prime, Oscar beats Manny, probably knocks him out with a left hook.
Serious question, do you think prime Manny has more power than Tito Trinidad or Fernando Vargas? Because those left hands would annoy Oscar, but they won't hurt him, also keep in mind if Marquez put Manny to sleep, what do you think a prime, bigger, stronger, younger DLH would do?
Them lefts made Oscar scared to actually throw anything in his fight with Manny.
Oscar looked like he was cringing waiting to be knocked out.
Its the worst display of cowardice i have ever seen in pro boxing.
Prime Pac was amazing but some people seem to forget or didn't see a prime Oscar. Oscar wins in my view. Manny really wasn't a true Welter and Oscar could comfortably fight at 154lbs.
Prime Delahoya might KO Pac.
Don't get me wrong, Pac was a great fighter, but Delahoya was beyond shot and weight drained in their fight. He was a coke head and alcholic too.
Myth, you don't let a fight get that competitive if your in first gear, that's an outrageous claim. He fought very differently, very carefully, didn't leave his feet especially with the lead left hook, because he had so much respect for Oscars left hook and power in general.
He fought smart, eased his way into range and allowed himself to get outworked in rounds because he knew he couldn't consistently give Oscar opportunities to land his power. Oscar slowed down enough that allowed Floyd to take the decision.
In his prime, this is an even more competitive fight, a 50/50 in fact You are delusional if you see it any other way. Oscar in his prime blew hot and cold, but he was the goods. Floyd never fought anyone on the level of a prime Oscar.
Oscar threw a lot but wasnt landing much..Floyd rocked him matter of fact..Oscar got figured out and that is why he slowed down
Floyd never even came out of 1st gear for that fight and had an easy time
Myth, you don't let a fight get that competitive if your in first gear, that's an outrageous claim. He fought very differently, very carefully, didn't leave his feet especially with the lead left hook, because he had so much respect for Oscars left hook and power in general.
He fought smart, eased his way into range and allowed himself to get outworked in rounds because he knew he couldn't consistently give Oscar opportunities to land his power. Oscar slowed down enough that allowed Floyd to take the decision.
In his prime, this is an even more competitive fight, a 50/50 in fact You are delusional if you see it any other way. Oscar in his prime blew hot and cold, but he was the goods. Floyd never fought anyone on the level of a prime Oscar.
I used to think Oscar's durability, speed and power could overpower Pacquiao but not anymore. It's all down to the fact that Oscar doesn't have a right hand, have to go with Pacquiao.
Ridiculous, people who think that Manny is a "great welter" are delusional! No different than the thought that Mayweather is a great welter! Their power from the lighter classes did NOT come with them as they out grew the lighter classes. Their stoppages were against average skilled men who were barely welters themselves.
Oscar would beat Manny and Floyd in his prime. Neither of them have the power needed to get respect to be able to win.
I don't consider Oscar, Manny or Floyd as great welters they would struggle to break into the top twenty five!
Oscar decs. both in competitive bouts. They both fought Oscar far from his best!
Ray
I think Pac makes Oscar scared to let go of his hands incase he gets them straight lefts all over again.
Serious question, do you think prime Manny has more power than Tito Trinidad or Fernando Vargas? Because those left hands would annoy Oscar, but they won't hurt him, also keep in mind if Marquez put Manny to sleep, what do you think a prime, bigger, stronger, younger DLH would do?