Jab: Wlad
Defense: Fury
ring generalship: Wlad
ring IQ: Wlad
stamina: Fury
heart: Fury
combination punching: Fury
adaptability: Fury
power: Fury
star power: Fury
experience: Wlad
work ethic: Wlad
chin: Fury
better bodywork: Fury
more effective hooks: Fury
NSB draw power: Fury
I have Fury taking his jab away in the early rounds, pressuring him, and forcing the fight inside, then systematically breaking him down to a late stoppage in the 10th, in a FOTY candidate.
What say you?
UPDATE
Fight is now official for October 24th, Dusseldorf, Germany/Alemania/Deutchland
Fury fighting southpaw is not a simple parlour trick. Fury is 100% ambidextrous and fights equally as well southpaw as he does orthodox. There isn't a HW who can do this, there aren't many at all in the sport for that matter who can do it.
True . . the switch-hitting, and his right hook is unusually strong. Most fighters have a strong left hook, but Fury generates a lot of force with the right at close range.
Wladimir by early stoppage for me. Fury, of course, stands a puncher's chance, but he's not a 'top' heavyweight. He's feasted on cruiserweights and journeymen.
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Yeah he pulled an Ali in that ring.
At least that's what I've been reading on here since November
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No, he pulled a Fury. It's a totally different though no less thorough schooling.
I do pick WK to beat Fury by KO.
You see the guys who have survived WK, apart from Haye and Ibragimov who are very slick, did not do it with their skills, they normally did it with excellent chin qualities. (Wach etc).
Byrd was a high ranked and high skilled opponent, he got him too did he not?
Problem I see with Fury is he doesn't have the skills of Ibragimov or Haye OR the chin of Wach or Povetkin to survive. What are your thoughts on this point<<< I'm interested?
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Man oh man.
Oh man I laughed hard at that.
I admit I was totally wrong. Props to Fury and I hope he can put in good showings if he gets to fight Joshua, Wilder, Povetkin and Ortiz. I hope he can keep the hard work going that got him the form for his WK bout.
Your list was almost ridiculously wrong in places, a few things I agree with but..
Defence - Wlad by FAR
Power - Wlad by FAR
More effective hooks -Wlad by FAR
Adaptability - I suppose you refer to Wlad not liking being out of comfort zone but ironically WK's exact style is to shut down his opponent out of their comfort zone which overwhelmingly would happen to Fury. So Wlad.
Heart - Questionable
Chin - Questionable, I'd give it to Wlad!
And a number of things were irrelevant against Wlad..
body work - body shots are mainly ineffective against WK.
combination punching - is largely ineffective against WK.
Fury has decent shot but far far most likely WK will break him down and knock him out.
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Makes sense. Wlad has shown a weakness against southpaws in the past, so Fury can keep him off guard in the opening rounds and repeat the feat down the stretch. That'd be something though, dominating a dominant champ without even using your good side. Kind of an insult to Wlad, but eff it, if Fury can get away with it why not?
yea.
I was bumping that to give that guy some credit for calling it with the rest of us, have to show love when it's due.
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WAR FURY!!
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Makes sense. Wlad has shown a weakness against southpaws in the past, so Fury can keep him off guard in the opening rounds and repeat the feat down the stretch. That'd be something though, dominating a dominant champ without even using your good side. Kind of an insult to Wlad, but eff it, if Fury can get away with it why not?
Fury's going to beat Klitschko from the Southpaw stance.
He'll switch back to orthodox if he senses a knockout coming though.
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Boston will change the thread title if asked when the fight is announced, it nearly rivals the heavyweight schedule IMO.
What for though?
I have the new thread here, and that poll is closed anyway.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16356443#post16356443
I know right!
Why couldn't they just turn it back into the pre-fight discussion thread again. Could become the longest saga in the scene history.
Just subscribe to the thread, then you can come back at will.
Boston will change the thread title if asked when the fight is announced, it nearly rivals the heavyweight schedule IMO.
This thread has been removed from sticky. Noooooo, this was epic!
Cheers Scott btw.
I know right!
Why couldn't they just turn it back into the pre-fight discussion thread again. Could become the longest saga in the scene history.
Just subscribe to the thread, then you can come back at will.
This thread has been removed from sticky. Noooooo, this was epic!
Cheers Scott btw.
I know right!
Why couldn't they just turn it back into the pre-fight discussion thread again. Could become the longest saga in the scene history.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16355265&posted=1#post16355265
Vote Denium.
If every Fury fan votes he will easily make the final cut, I doubt he wins on that alone but someone deserves credit for carrying this thread for 18 months with balanced discussion, hence why I ain't voting none of the other Fury fans as some are clearly mentally disturbed and a tad unhinged.
yes and to be fair to Vlad...when was the last time a fighter in the heavyweight division fought off his back leg? I can't think of any modern guys off the top of my flat head.
This is an interesting situation. It shows that Fury's family, their particular connection to prizefighting evolved a bit different. While most European coaching and styles are heavily influenced by the amateur style...Fury's family is more connected to bare knuckle principles and other technical approaches. This is why Fury looks very different and this is why he fights that way, namely the Fury's in their own tradition, have retained and disccarded different technical approaches, from the status quo.
incidently, a great analogy to this situation is Brazilian Jui Jitsu which is for all purposes a form of Judo. The Gracies ground game came because the Japanese teacher that came to them was not influenced by post war Kodokan procedures used to standerdize Judo, and other such things...Judo always had the techniques used by the Gracies but... these techniques were not emphasized at the Kodokan in Japan. So the Gracies, like Fury, used technical approaches part of the art, but not emphasized by and large in the training community.
Interesting way of looking at things.
Fury represents almost a different species of boxer, and one that modern trainers just aren't equipped to deal with. Some of the things he does you'd never teach in a million years, yet the fact is they work for him and win him fights. It's fascinating watching him use these hybrid old school techniques from the last century against modern highly schooled boxers, and utterly befuddling them. I suspect we'll be seeing a bit of a renaissance in training methods as a result of Fury's success, or at least a greater appreciation of certain techniques long thought obsolete.
Saying that, it'd be interesting to see if Fury's unorthodox style works in and of itself, or whether a large degree of its success comes down to Fury's virtuosity as a fighter. I suspect the latter, though time will tell.
Just like you thought Wladimir would knock him out! :lol1: :lol1:
Fury is by far and away the most talented boxer in the HW division, and as long as he stays motivated, he beats all of them.
Will he stay motivated though? I'm not so sure.
I don't think so. I get really strong Riddick Bowe vibes from Fury and I think they'll follow a similar path, a blazing short prime then burnt out by the time they're thirty.
Fury's a lot more defensively minded than Bowe, though, so it'll be his out of the ring habits that'll erode his skills, not the amount of punishment he takes inside it.