Espy

What, Floyds not gonna fight him at 130 its a 140 fight. Floyd might be faster than Taylor, but he's not really a hard puncher. If Mayweather had trouble against an older De La Hoya a prime Chavez would've really put a hurt on skinny Floyd. I dont even think JCC was in his prime when he fought Taylor. I love how everyone says Oscar gave Mayweather problems but fail to acknowledge that Floyd jumped from 140 to 154 to take that fight. Oscar v Floyd at 147 or 140 would have been a less difficult fight for Floyd. As for JCC v Mayweather, that would of been an interesting fight. I think JCC gives Floyd a challenge but Floyd wins by decision. If JCC could close the distance effectively and nullify Mayweather's footwork he could potentially catch Floyd with something big and that could change the dynamic of the fight. As for JCC beating Roger Mayweather, that hardly plays a factor in anything as Floyd is better than Roger in every facet besides p4p punching power.

Floyd had like 3 or 4 fights at 147 and was the best welterweight in the world when he fought Oscar. What are you talking about? My mistake, I was more so trying to say that Mayweather was a small welter at the time since he was still weighing in under the Welter limit. He still had a small frame for a welter at the time and analysts and commentators would point this out frequently stating that he was struggling to put on weight for the welter division. That was a lapse on my mind to say he jumped two classes officially but I was more so trying to say that he was still a small welter at the time and the weight jump to 154 was at a time when he was still trying to adjust his frame to 147 thus almost making it like a jump from 140 to 154. But yes you are correct. Officially it was one weight class.

If you put him at the same age against the same fighters Floyd fought when he was that age I don't think he does, maybe 1 to 6 losses Losses I predict could have happened - 1 to 3 early losses as he would have been stronger competition - potentially loses to Hernandez, Castillo 1 & 2, Corrales, JMM, Judah, Oscar at 154 and potentially Canelo at 154 I give him the benefit of the doubt on some of these I'd say he probably ends up like 41-4 with a higher KO percentage than Floyd

Marquez probably licking his lips http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20111110&t=2&i=529963202&w=1200&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=img-2011-11-10T064935Z_01_NOOTR_RTRMDNC_0_India-604307-1

Have never really believed in Danny being elite now, or in the future. Not judging Danny on his performance vs. Peterson as I think Peterson is a solid opponent. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I just don't see it.

Look at the picture on the left when Floyd was crying because Madonna bit him, The one on the right is post fight. What's the full image to that post fight photo?

There's a picture of Floyd missing his tooth. Why would Floyd have Vaseline in his mouth :dunce: http://i62.tinypic.com/29og0tc.jpg Pwned. Those are two different pictures. Note the finger.

I think Mayweather inside the ring. (fight purses) I think after May 2nd it will also be Mayweather outside of the ring. Floyd spends like crazy though.

I'm starting to legitimately hate this site. I can't distinguish the trolls from the idiots and it just leaves me face palming far too much for my pleasure. I signed up to this site with the belief that it was a good boxing forum with intelligent posters and now I can hardly muster the energy to wade through the crap here to get to the honest boxing opinions.

I got to the 17th page and couldn't continue because Loaded was giving me a headache with his flawed logic. I don't understand how you think all indications point to Maidana winning the rematch when he fought his best fight the first time around and lost. You literally predicted Maidana by KO based on how you thought the fight would play out, he fought the exact fight that you predicted him to and he still lost. You aren't off base to suggest Maidana can win the rematch but you keep using the first fight as an indicator to how he will win the second fight when all he did in the first fight was lay a blueprint on how to lose. It's the same logic with Oscar saying he "created the blueprint on how to beat Mayweather" when he never actually beat Mayweather. He may have had mild success but ultimately a loss is a loss and Maidana was not successful in WINNING the fight. The only way the first fight is an indicator that he will win is if you think Mayweather will be significantly worse. Either that or you think Maidana will adjust far better than Mayweather will the second time around which I disagree with. One thing is certain from the first fight that you are choosing to ignore however: Mayweather fought Maidana's fight and DECISIVELY won a close fight. He even came back to very clearly win the late rounds of the fight. There is nothing to indicate that Mayweather is in serious danger of losing by fighting Maidana's fight while we know that if Mayweather were to move around the ring and box from distance he can present Maidana with a whole new set of problems.

The hate for Mayweather doesn't make sense. He made a demand, it was agreed upon. The majority of people complaining here are the same ones saying the Maidana rematch was a sorry choice and waste of a fight. If it's such a waste of a fight how is it that the gloves are the only reason Mayweather will win now. I guess before the gloves were announced it was a waste because there was "nothing for Mayweather to prove, he will beat Maidana more decisively" but now that the gloves were picked "Mayweather is a coward and is only going to win because of the gloves." People find the most random reasons to hate on Mayweather. I swear all of you guys are perennial losers. You act like getting an edge on the competition is treason to the sport. Have any of you ever competed before? You're going to say you never tried to get a one up on an opponent ever before? Let he who has never gotten an advantage ever in competition cast the first stone at Mayweather. I guess by the same measure Jordan is a garbage cheater and disgrace to the sport of basketball because he won his last finals on an offensive foul and got a "Jordan call." It's unfair that since Jordan was a superstar a lot of calls went his way. He's trash and it's a shame that he referred to himself as the best. SMH.

why not? people says pac has problems dealing with boxers... jmm and bradley showed this..... people say pac will be no match for floyd...a very good boxer... algieri is a young undefeated boxer... Are you actually this stupid? Algieri is a nobody and Pac is an ATG. You are clearly a fake Pac fan if you are "hyping" this fight up. Anybody who respects Pac knows that this is a joke of a pay per view, and at this point in Pac's career a joke of a fight.

so a nobody beat ruslan.... and since you seem to think you are somebody then you can say stupid to anyone... a fake fan? ha ha ha ha...please define this "fake fan"... if you had read some of my previous posts, i had stated pac should retire... now, what would that make me...a "true fan", a "casual fan" or an electric fan ha ha ha Ruslan continues to be overrated on these boards. Ruslan isn't an elite fighter and should not be considered the test to clear you to face Manny Pacquaio. If you are seriously comparing Provo to Pac then you are a fake as hell. You are hyping this guy up because Pac is fighting him and you want to lend credibility to this fight. That' why you are a fake fan, because you can't keep it real. Algieri is being gifted this opportunity, claiming otherwie is serious disrespect to Pac's legacy.

you seem to have great respect for pac... i can admire that... but at the same time you are saying pac is fighting a not so credible opponent... how's that? so, who should pac fight? Anybody who exhibits disrespect towards Pac and his career is more than likely a troll. Pac is one of the best to ever do it and that is coming from a Floyd fan. I give respect where respect is due, I just don't think at this stage of his career Pac should be fighting Algieri. If Maidana isn't/wasn't a credible match up for Floyd then Algieri doesn't belong in the same country as Pac. There are at least 5 people I can think of that are better opponents and would provide more credibility than Algieri at this stage of the game.

i asked you "who" pac should fight... please name the 5 Shaun Porter Keith Thurman Amir Khan Danny Garcia JMM rematch Bradley rematch Maidana Miguel Cotto rematch at higher weight Mikey Garcia Lucas Mathysse These are all fights that I think are more credible than Algieri.

disrespect to pac's legacy? wow, you're way out of this universe.... so manny himself is disrespecting his own legacy? by fighting algieri? refer post #42 above... If you think that this is a credible fight then you are obviously dense. Manny isn't preparing himself for Floyd by fighting Algieri and Floyd isn't preparing himself for Manny by fighting Maidana. Your post is pulling for strings at credibility here and laughable at best. Pac isn't disrespecting his legacy by fighting Algieri, YOU are disrespecting his legacy by claiming that Algieri is on Pac's level and a credible opponent.

I'd favor Canelo because I think he is too strong for Cotto but I give Cotto a fair shot at winning.

very good list...credible fighters.. practical? or easy to be made fight at this point? who are gbp or al haymon fighters? I think that as far as ease of making a matchup you have a valid point BUT if Floyd is expected to reach out and make a fight with Pac (toprank fighter) we should hold Pac to the same standards and expect him to make fights with GBP fighters. The lack of consistent opinions is what makes the fight lack credibility. I'm sure if I peruse your post history I will find posts where you claim Floyd is ducking Pac, but by the same logic the inability for Pac to make fights with GBP fighters should mean he is ducking the whole GBP stable. Now I don't agree with this at all, but you have to realize that by stating one thing explicitly you imply the opposite idea on the other spectrum.

they are taking medicine during training to ease the pain and inflammation of the injury. they could have the same medicine if only they answered the questionnaire correctly.. but they never answered it correctly, thus, the commission denied their request.. maybe it has also like how we answer those routine question on boarders.. you just have to tick "no" and you're all good.. even if in some of those, you probably could have said yes.. but since you are always ticking "no", your muscle memory remembers it and just say no.. It was the first freaking question on the questionnaire :lol1::lol1:

Hope this happens. Maybe we'll see May/Pac?

Maidana needs to watch this video.

Pretty sure 90% of the board and boxing media was saying the exact same thing about Donaire before he took him to school. Comparing Floyd to Donaire. Sick post, you're clearly the GPOAT. That was sarcasm if you didn't catch it.

I will take the guy who is 45-0 and never been knocked down in his career, over a guy with only twelve fight who has been knocked down and hurt quite a few times, even though he is an amazing master boxer. Quality post.

Floyd is historically greater although I think Manny's resume can boast better accolades. I just think that the way Floyd fights shows so many different levels of boxing mastery as where Manny's game has more holes when comparing the two. I think if Floyd had more stopping power his claim to "TBE" would show more credibility. This makes Floyd a greater fighter IMO.

Bradley ducked Khan doe. (I think fight would be a toss up imo).

I don't get why Pac fans still trying to make excuses for Pac. Mayweather won, Pac had a bad showing, if he was really injured hope for the rematch. If he was really injured he knew what he was doing going into the fight. He lost. No excuses. That's it.

. This is where you show your own form of insanity where you hate somebody you have never met or will ever know , your as insane and as obsessed as he is only your a maggot eating dead flesh while he was born with a special gift to allow his extravagant lifestyle , you were born a nobody on a forum and will never be anything , your insane just as he is . http://everyinstrumental.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/nas_ether.jpg

He may well be under the same mistaken impression that most posters seem to be under: A contract is not a set of terms that both guys sign their name to! A contract, which can be oral BTW....is when terms and conditions act as skin in the game and ensure that if the agreement is breached real losses will occur to both parties (or can be unilaterally). For example, if a venue is decided and booked. Arum could easily end the problem by putting the conditions allegedlly agreed to down, and pledging collaterial to be in effect upon Mayweather's signature. i have a hard time believing the networks could not figure out a way to do this.....If Arum did this it would be totally transparent and people in the know would know in a New York Minute if Floyd was going to do the fight or not. This could even be done orally. The bolded part is on POINT on SOOOO MANY LEVELS. This is literally what Ariza is saying in his video. I don't understand how people are literally just not seeing this. Although I did want to correct one part of your post. Verbal contracts of this size are usually not enforceable in a court of law and will typically require a written agreement to award any remedy.

i never said or acted like it was an official number you thought i was being serious also when i put "no buboy" in there? the point is if floyd had his way 100% like he wants(which is why it hasn't been agreed to) he'll put pacquiao through the wringer with bullsht after bullsht pacquiao agreeing to everything is pacquiao agreeing to as much as he can, this means he's not leaving arum, and he's not accepting a bullsht no ppv offer and yes, just about all of our posts is speculation, but speculation with reason a·gree·ment noun a negotiated and typically legally binding arrangement between parties as to a course of action Notice how the word negotiated is in past tense. Meaning that in order to reach an agreement the negotiations must be finished. So how exactly are they agreeing with all terms when the terms are still being negotiated between camps?

Just a joke of an interview. What did Ariza really tell us? NOTHING! So why is he blaming Arum when he told us NOTHING! Why are you so angry buddy? Calm down. Ariza is saying that there is no contract and thus by extension there is nothing that could have been really agreed upon. He is expressing that there is a lot of smoke being blown around as the networks are still negotiating on the PPV and distribution details. He is angry that Arum keeps saying that everything is agreed upon and they are just waiting on Mayweather when the exact opposite is true. He believes this is typical of Arum, and he also believes that Arum is trying to ruin the fight by disrespecting the legitimacy of the currently ONGOING negotiations and attempting to force Mayweather to commit to terms that aren't real. Pac couldn't have agreed to Mayweather's terms because Mayweather hasn't made a formal offer. There is no contract, Pac hasn't signed anything. Pac has verbally committed to terms that we have no details about. He is expressing that if Pac is agreeing to "Everything" that Arum should be able to produce a contract offer that they sent to camp Mayweather conceding to all of the terms. There was a lot said.