21 min video. Absolutely 0 signs of a serious rotator cuff injury.
It would've been literally impossible to do some of those workouts and stretches with even a minor rotator cuff injury.
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Am sorry you spent 100 bucks to see your boy Manny get schooled by the guy you hate the most.
You fail to realize that when Manny cheats,does something immoral or illegal, he does them in a honorable way so stop with the Pacman hate.
And when Floyd beats women, he growls and yells "TBE! TBE!"
21 min video. Absolutely 0 signs of a serious rotator cuff injury.
It would've been literally impossible to do some of those workouts and stretches with even a minor rotator cuff injury.
lol your sig shows he was hesitant to throw his right hand.
And, do you know that you can still throw a punch even if your injured? The question is, is it just as crisp as when its healthy?
Of course not. Having an injury means, there is no power or snap in pac's punches. That's all there is to it.
You mean shots like xylocaine? Which according to pac stans prior to may 3rd 2015, is the equivalent to using PEDs. :thinking:
And are you implying he was using xylocaine at the time of this workout? You do realize xylocaine usage wouldn't have been permitted at the time of this workout?
You fail to realize that when Manny cheats,does something immoral or illegal, he does them in a honorable way so stop with the Pacman hate.
Are you seriously comparing a rotator cuff injury to a freaking cramps?
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therein lies his point chap
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Well, there's always going to be a few that are too slow to get it. I suppose these guys are the reason that this excuse has taken off so much.
Yes, I am comparing them. As Dutty said, that is precisely the point.
A huge deal gets made of some minor leg cramps, by Pacquiao himself, by his corner and the very clear and obvious treatment of the problem and then directly after the fight as a reason to why he wasn't fighting well, despite winning, and leg cramps are relatively minor and of much less concern than a shoulder tear which basically stops the one thing he needs to do to win the fight (even though it obviously didn't).
Now compare that to the biggest fight of his career, in the biggest ****ing event in boxing history, the fight that more than any other he's ever had, he must win and stay healthy and able to throw punches in yet there isn't a single mention of how his shoulder is holding up, there isn't a single mention by Pacquiao himself that he just tore his rotator cuff, a devastating and incredibly painful injury, and there's no mention of it the rest of the fight, despite it basically being a guarantee of a fight losing injury. Get it yet?
There is no concern of the injury whatsoever from the corner at any stage of the fight. There is never a glimpse of pain from Pacquiao or pulling of the right hand, despite shoulder injuries being incredibly obvious to notice. There is no treatment by anyone of it, even though it could have supposedly ended the fight, and no one seems in the least bit concerned that he has supposedly just torn the muscle apart in his shoulder and now can't throw right hands?
So, to be ultra clear in the comparison, they make a massive fuss over minor cramping, the whole team furiously asking him about them, Pacquiao himself mentioning them, and the team massaging them and trying to keep his legs from cramping, but no one makes the slightest peep, including Pac himself, of arguably the worst injury he's ever had in the ring, in the biggest fight he's ever had and the most important boxing event in history and no one even ****ing asks about it?
So yes, I'm comparing him getting some minor leg cramping and the frantic treatment and great concern in the corner of it, to a supposed near fight ending injury that no one talks about, no one asks him about, no one treats, no one mentions and that doesn't seem to affect him in the least bit in any way.
Every single shoulder injury, hand injury etc etc I've seen a fighter get in the ring that has been bad enough to have affected their performance has been very clear and obvious. Not one person ever mentioned during the fight that it looked as though Pac had suddenly injured his shoulder and looked in pain or as if his right arm wasn't working. No one would ever have mentioned it at all, until it got rolled down the red carpet excuse by Arum and Pacs team. Never would have come up at all, because it didn't affect his performance at all and no one noticed anything different about his performance, other than that he was fighting Mayweather.
A bit odd don't you think? Almost as if there was no injury at all during the fight.
The reason why he is not showing signs is because is he is getting regular shots in his shoulder (the same shots he was denied by NSAC) u idiot.
You mean shots like xylocaine? Which according to pac stans prior to may 3rd 2015, is the equivalent to using PEDs. :thinking:
And are you implying he was using xylocaine at the time of this workout? You do realize xylocaine usage wouldn't have been permitted at the time of this workout?
A pretty heavy statement from a guy who 98% of his time on this forum hates and trolls around when mayweather is mentioned.
Ease up on the sour grape boy. His been tarding for Packie since 2009 only to see him get schooled by the boxer his hated all these years. Give this boy a break.
Floyd fans or Manny haters...are the dumbest bunch of shlt bags on the planet.!
A pretty heavy statement from a guy who 98% of his time on this forum hates and trolls around when mayweather is mentioned.
shoulder injuries are tricky. theyll heal after a few days and feel almost normal. but you can tell its fragile nd the slightest weird angel can re irritate & inflame the shoulder//injury right back to the way it was when you hurt it the first time. nd theres cycles of that until you give it a lenghty amount of time off and/or surgery.
you kind of have to have had the type of injury to know what it like. i know andre ward knows the feeling he had a very similar injury with surgery
ALSO NOTICE @ 3:17 he gives his shoulder a "woah? did i just retweek it?"
The licensed physicians are out in full force.
By "medicine" you mean painkillers. The problem with masking injuries with painkillers is that you end up hurting yourself more, because you lack pain telling you to stop. What doctor, in their right mind, would clear Pacquiao to fight if he had a significant injury? They said "doctors" told him it would be fine with painkillers. I say that's bull****. If anything they said, "You really shouldn't do this," or the injury wasn't significant before he stepped into the ring.
it sure was minor and just aggravated during the fight.
It was the first freaking question on the questionnaire :lol1::lol1:
it wasn't, it was on the middle.
So what you're saying is. . . .
Manny can't read either?
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no swiping on the other fighter. the point is he was always answering those questionnaire and used to tick "no" everytime he answers it. he have answered this type of form for more than 30X for sure.
I think if pacquiao had any brain or anyone around him with at least an IQ of 24 they'd tell him to say that the injury occurred during the fight and not before,now he's fkd because of lying and because he ripped of fans worldwide by going in with an injured shoulder,can't feel nothing but bad for this guy right now..very sad situation.
Exactly. He's never been shy to mention leg cramps being a cause of a poor performance in lesser fights that he actually still won, but in his biggest fight ever, and the most important of his career, he never happens to mention a fight losing, and nearly fight ending shoulder injury as the cause for his wide loss, despite that being the excuse he later brings out after a conference held with his media and promotion team?
He brings up a ton of stuff right after the fight as the reason he lost or didn't think he lost, except the single most important thing of the whole fight? That being a terrible debilitating shoulder injury? :lol1:
People need to wake up.
Are you seriously comparing a rotator cuff injury to a freaking cramps?
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