Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

135 chavez would of killed him . 140 chavez would beat the hair out of mayweathers skull untill he quit on his stool just like uncle roger ... his uncle had way more power in his hands and he couldn't keep chavez away from him that non stop pressure made him fold . little floyd throws one punch at a time he does not like to get hit in order for him to throw any combos he would have to take a few does that sound like the little floyd we know

Floyd had like 3 or 4 fights at 147 and was the best welterweight in the world when he fought Oscar. What are you talking about? My mistake, I was more so trying to say that Mayweather was a small welter at the time since he was still weighing in under the Welter limit. He still had a small frame for a welter at the time and analysts and commentators would point this out frequently stating that he was struggling to put on weight for the welter division. That was a lapse on my mind to say he jumped two classes officially but I was more so trying to say that he was still a small welter at the time and the weight jump to 154 was at a time when he was still trying to adjust his frame to 147 thus almost making it like a jump from 140 to 154. But yes you are correct. Officially it was one weight class.

JLC and JCC are not the same fighter. JLC was more a boxer puncher, JCC was more a stout swarmer. JCC Wouldnt have outweighed him by 15 pounds considering both won their first titles and fought a lot of fights at 130 and 135. Castillo is taller, longer, was dirtier than JCC inside, had a better jab and cut off the ring better against faster fighters. JCC had a better defense, faster hands maybe a lil more power and better counterpuncher. Some May disagree with my statement about cutting off the ring but outside of the rematch with Mayweather, Castillo didnt looked befuddled fighting and cutting the ring off against superior boxers and faster guys. Casamayor, Julio Diaz, Stevie Johnston, Mayweather couldnt hold him off in the first fight. Whereas Chavez in his prime and older looked befuddled against Meldrick Taylor who had no power to hold him off but was beating him with combos and footwork, Whitaker who turned him and controlled the ring, Frankie Randall, ODLH he looked perplexed and frustrated. Mayweather fought a close fight with Castillo in their first fight which could have gone either way. He was also injured. People also think just because a fighter is winning or undefeated, that they are in their prime. In the rematch Mayweather dominated Castillo injury-free. Mayweather's prime weight was at 140 and he didnt stay there long enough to establish much of a legacy. His prime was from '05-'07. He filled out and got that grown man strength.What he did do was combine the natural athleticism of his youth, with experience he gained from being a champion since 1998 and an improved defense and counterpunching skill with still very good power. Mayweather had a style that would give JCC fits and had more power than both Taylor, Randall and Whitaker. His hand speed was close to Taylor and he through with power and proper technique, not arm punches like Taylor, was just as slick as Whitaker at the time he fought JCC but Mayweather moved laterally more than Pea did. Mayweather IMO would win an exciting close but clear UD or Majority dec.

I love how everyone says Oscar gave Mayweather problems but fail to acknowledge that Floyd jumped from 140 to 154 to take that fight. Oscar v Floyd at 147 or 140 would have been a less difficult fight for Floyd. As for JCC v Mayweather, that would of been an interesting fight. I think JCC gives Floyd a challenge but Floyd wins by decision. If JCC could close the distance effectively and nullify Mayweather's footwork he could potentially catch Floyd with something big and that could change the dynamic of the fight. As for JCC beating Roger Mayweather, that hardly plays a factor in anything as Floyd is better than Roger in every facet besides p4p punching power. Floyd had like 3 or 4 fights at 147 and was the best welterweight in the world when he fought Oscar. What are you talking about?

What, Floyds not gonna fight him at 130 its a 140 fight. Floyd might be faster than Taylor, but he's not really a hard puncher. If Mayweather had trouble against an older De La Hoya a prime Chavez would've really put a hurt on skinny Floyd. I dont even think JCC was in his prime when he fought Taylor. I love how everyone says Oscar gave Mayweather problems but fail to acknowledge that Floyd jumped from 140 to 154 to take that fight. Oscar v Floyd at 147 or 140 would have been a less difficult fight for Floyd. As for JCC v Mayweather, that would of been an interesting fight. I think JCC gives Floyd a challenge but Floyd wins by decision. If JCC could close the distance effectively and nullify Mayweather's footwork he could potentially catch Floyd with something big and that could change the dynamic of the fight. As for JCC beating Roger Mayweather, that hardly plays a factor in anything as Floyd is better than Roger in every facet besides p4p punching power.

floyd would've definitely ducked him ...anyways like someone already said , if jlc could do it , imagine sr ...

Nah, man the fight would've never happened since Floyd would probably duck him. :sombrero: ¡pero el hombre tiene un país detrás de él!

I know we got Arguello at 130, Whitaker at 135, JCC and Aaron Pryor at 140. Out of the names I mentioned, I only see Duran and Whitaker possibly beating Mayweather. What a joke. Floyd would dominate Duran.

Gatti career was done before he fought Floyd he barely threw punches. He would look to the floor while Floyd was looking at him. He was lost in the fight. He had one to many wars against Ward.

Floyd had a torn rotator cuff and won the fight, how many fighters have you seen do that. Just because Castillo comes forward is not an indication of what it would look like against Chavez. How about the second fight? Floyd won clearly, but it was hardly a one-sided beatdown. You are nuts if you think Floyd does to a prime JCC at 140 what he did to Gatti.

Imagine Meldrick Taylor....now imagine not being able to hit Meldrick Taylor... Thats Floyd. Mayweather UD. Easily. What, Floyds not gonna fight him at 130 its a 140 fight. Floyd might be faster than Taylor, but he's not really a hard puncher. If Mayweather had trouble against an older De La Hoya a prime Chavez would've really put a hurt on skinny Floyd. I dont even think JCC was in his prime when he fought Taylor.

Exactly, but I can see Floyd giving Chavez similar problems as Sweet Pea. Possibly with a similar judging result. Those judges didnt care for running back then, and its not like Sweet Pea was running compared to what Floyd would do.

What? Speak english. How was what I said difficult to understand? I asked you if you thought Floyd's first fight with Castillo resembled the Gatti fight. My reason for asking is that he is fairly similar to Chavez in style and it isn't like Floyd embarressed him.

Just to pick you up on that one. No, he didn't. Whitaker won that fight comfortably, and he knew he was winning it the whole way. He did not "have trouble" with him in any way, shape or form. Personally I understand, the importance of guarding and evading. However Floyd is no Sweet Pea. Why was Sweet Pea running from Chavez? Why did, Chavez have the need to constantly find Sweet Pea? Running and evading fire down the line, does not always play well with the judges. A lesson, Oscar learned vary early on.

If Chavez couldnt find Sweet Pea he wouldnt find Floyd, this actually would look more Gatti-like probably without the knockout though. ROFL. It would look like Gatti? YOu are awesome. Did JLC I look much like Gatti?

We saw what happened, to Taylor. Julio effectively ended his carrier. I mean, even Whitaker had trouble with Julio. Having fought and defeated Floyds trainer, Roger Mayweather twice. What can Floyd bring to the table, that Julio hasn't previously handled before? I truly believe Julio has more background experience to apply his skill on Floyd. Just to pick you up on that one. No, he didn't. Whitaker won that fight comfortably, and he knew he was winning it the whole way. He did not "have trouble" with him in any way, shape or form.

We saw what happened, to Taylor. Julio effectively ended his carrier. I mean, even Whitaker had trouble with Julio. Having fought and defeated Floyds trainer, Roger Mayweather twice. What can Floyd bring to the table, that Julio hasn't previously handled before? I truly believe Julio has more background experience to apply his skill on Floyd.

I think chavez late stoppage or floyd SD

People saying Floyd easily are nuts. Chavez is an easy fight for noone at 140. THat said, Mayweather by decision. I agree with the fact that if you think, this would be an easy fight. Then your comments would be nothing but a joke.

Nah, man the fight would've never happened since Floyd would probably duck him.