Ariza: Floyd fighting on May 2, but not vs Pacquiao

Sorry but that is not what is going on. Floyd gave his demands and Manny/Arum agreed. You seem to miss the big picture. Unless they are newbies at this, Floyd demanded that Manny agree on PEDs testing, Date, money, and a few other key points. In other words, the major issues that had to be resolved. Manny/Arum agreed on those items. It is nearly the end of the month so it does not make any sense that Floyd didn't bring up the major points. I'd like to see you produce a primary source (other than Arum/Pac) that Floyd provided a full list of comprehensive terms for team Pacquaio to agree to. If you don't know what primary sources are I can explain that to you: a source that is reporting first hand and involved in the actual negotiations. You say that there has been no news but sorry but that too is not true. Just last week, it was reported that the Networks were the only major hurdle left. ALL other points was just academic. Only Floyd was the wild card in this. This is simply not true. Every news report is a SECONDARY REPORT regurgitating the things that were said by Arum and Pac. There is no other PRIMARY source (especially nobody on the Mayweather side) that has said all the terms have been agreed to and that the networks coming to an agreement at this point is the final stepping stone. There have been positive reports but everyone on the Mayweather side has side the terms are still being worked out while Arum & Pac are the only ones saying there is nothing left to negotiate between camps. If you are right, then it is Floyd's fault for negotiating in a stupid manner but what you say does NOT make any sense. Time is very important at this stage. I think you don't understand how negotiations work. When you negotiate it is a SINGULAR event. Just because 4 years ago Floyd had a full list of demands this doesn't mean that these will be Floyd's demands forever. When you went to the gas station several months ago the price of gas was much higher, if you go now the price of gas is much cheaper. Supply and demand dictate a ton in negotiations. Floyd is clearly in more DEMAND than Pac (PPV #'s), thus although it may not be something you agree with, if he wishes to request more money now than he did in past negotiations he is well within his right to do so. Do I agree that he should be so greedy? Hell no, but at the same time just because I don't agree with something doesn't mean that my opinion or view of events is the absolute truth. Floyd isn't doing anything that is too outside of the ordinary, he is comparing what they have brought to the table in terms of value recently and dictating negotiations with his leverage. I personally want and think Floyd should concede ground so that the fight can come off, but at the same time I'm a business man myself and can't hate on the man for trying to make everything in his favor. If all the major points were not discussed then the negotiations up to this point was all a big joke. Who is to blame if you are right? FLOYD's TEAM. Why? Because they demanded some but not all of the major points which were negotiated and agreed upon. Then you are saying that Floyd comes back with new demands? ......... which I will have to call ROADBLOCKS!!! Negotiations are not static, they are dynamic. Terms change. Prices change. Negotiations for THIS May 2nd period haven't been reported as finalized by any other PRIMARY source besides Arum/Pac. In regards to "new" demands (how you so eloquently twisted into roadblocks); if you visited an attorney today who is brand spanking new he will typically charge in the $150-$200 range per hour. Let's say you retained that attorney for a case. Now let's say you visited that same attorney 10 years later to retain him for the case, it is likely at that time that he will charge around $400 an hour due to his increase in experience. Does that mean he's ducking your case? No, it just means he has more leverage (experience) now and can charge you more for the same service if he chooses to. You as a client can choose to hire someone else or move forward with the proven guy. Pac can choose to concede to Floyd's demands (because it's pretty clear Floyd isn't conceding now) or choose to fight someone else. That is why I say it is all a big joke by Ariza. Floyd was harping on Manny's PPV # and other stuff. What? It's all a joke. Ariza sounded like its all Arums' fault but then he says that the 2012 $40 million offer was great for Manny. What a big joke! Floyd was harping on Manny's numbers because he is usuing this as his reasoning to take more money. As far as Ariza, he never said that $40 mil was a great offer (Wow you should be a DJ, you're clearly amazing at spinning things). Ariza said that Floyd is the only one that is putting out OFFERS. He was just getting at the point that nothing conclusive in regards to this fight has EVER been produced by Arum, while Floyd has 2 confirmed offers. He was also stating that Arum keeps stating that they put offers on the table but has never been able to produce any form of evidence for these "offers." You want to believe Ariza go ahead but its funny because not too long ago, Floyd and FLoyd fans hated Ariza. I don't hate Manny or Ariza or anybody in boxing for that matter. I dislike certain personas and certain boxers (I'm actually a fan of Manny as well and buy his PPVs) but that is personal preference. I also am not saying that Ariza is the absolute truth here, but he does bring up some good points. It is really odd that Arum keeps saying they are waiting on Mayweather and that he has a deadline when there literally is no contract or any offer on the table. What exactly is Mayweather supposed to do by the end of January? Agree to a fight that is still in negotiations? In the grand scheme of things, what is Arum really asking Mayweather to do? Read the red above for my responses.

Full interview here: wow they left out alot interesting this site seems top rank funded

Ariza is a whore who was scared of an old man with Parkinson's disease.

Like i said yesterday no mayweather/pac man fight then both guys need to **** off no more mismatch fights between these two divas.

Floydgimps filed a protest to change.org to delete this video from youtube.:dance: Lmaooooooo I'm done

Read the red above for my response. It's pretty simple, Manny could not have agreed to EVERYTHING because things such as purse split, promotional company, etc. are still being worked out. There is no agreement as there is no contract that has been signed or even offered at this point. A verbal commit means nothing. High school athletes verbally commit to play at schools all the time and then when SIGNING day comes they change their minds. Ariza is upset that Arum is downplaying the fact that there are still ONGOING negotiations. He is upset that the media keeps mentioning an agreement and contracts when there is no agreement or contract that is on the table waiting for Floyd's signature. It's hard to agree to a fight that you haven't even been offered yet. It's like if you were offered a job after an on the spot interview and the interviewer said you would be paid 80k/year. You can verbally agree, but if the contract says 20k/year then the verbal agreement was moot as it didn't really mean anything regarding the offer that was PUT ON THE TABLE. Sorry but that is not what is going on. Floyd gave his demands and Manny/Arum agreed. You seem to miss the big picture. Unless they are newbies at this, Floyd demanded that Manny agree on PEDs testing, Date, money, and a few other key points. In other words, the major issues that had to be resolved. Manny/Arum agreed on those items. It is nearly the end of the month so it does not make any sense that Floyd didn't bring up the major points. You say that there has been no news but sorry but that too is not true. Just last week, it was reported that the Networks were the only major hurdle left. ALL other points was just academic. Only Floyd was the wild card in this. If you are right, then it is Floyd's fault for negotiating in a stupid manner but what you say does NOT make any sense. Time is very important at this stage. If all the major points were not discussed then the negotiations up to this point was all a big joke. Who is to blame if you are right? FLOYD's TEAM. Why? Because they demanded some but not all of the major points which were negotiated and agreed upon. Then you are saying that Floyd comes back with new demands? ......... which I will have to call ROADBLOCKS!!! That is why I say it is all a big joke by Ariza. Floyd was harping on Manny's PPV # and other stuff. What? It's all a joke. Ariza sounded like its all Arums' fault but then he says that the 2012 $40 million offer was great for Manny. What a big joke! You want to believe Ariza go ahead but its funny because not too long ago, Floyd and FLoyd fans hated Ariza.

what kind of idiots are these flomos lol

I think Floyd is looking to make the Pacquiao fight his final fight.

according to floyd fans there were no real negotiations. showtime and hbo ceo's just get together to troll us boxing fans. the "no negotiation stance is getting old" they had already used that in 2010- where they had said theres no mediation either. floyd havent said what floyd apologies is saying here. weird how much floyd fans could defend and rationalize the "no real negotiation stance" i'm sure showtime and hbo executive got some drafts on the agreements. i'm sure too that floyd and manny exchange drafts of contracts too. im sure too that floyd had sent manny his demands on the fight. im sure hbo and showtime as big as corporation as they are wont duck a money making venture over splits as long as they have a profit in their capital. only floyd fans would make this a bigger issue as they are.

I said that Ariza's interview is a big fat joke. Sorry but the news of late contradicts with what Ariza said. Also, Ariza contradicted himself. The only news has been the repeated reporting of what Arum and Pac have said in regards to agreeing to terms. This is what he is attempting to debate in the video. Manny's team can't sign until the Networks come to an agreement too. Right? ..... Yes Ariza's point exactly. but what Arum and Manny are saying is that whatever the demands that were issued unto Manny were agreed upon. That to me is very easy to understand. See the tough part here is that Floyd hasn't issued any public demands in this round of negotiations yet. We have no idea what Manny really agreed to. This is what Ariza is getting at, he is saying that Arum keeps saying that everything is agreed to when it clearly isn't. He is frustrated that Arum is imposing a deadline on Floyd to agree to a fight that is still in negotiations. The negotiations are NOT over, despite what Arum keeps saying. Floyd's team would have been insanely dumb to have missed in their demands any of the major issues. So perhaps some minor items which were not asked by the Floyd's team were not agreed since was not initially mentioned. Who knows. I don't know that I understand what you are saying here. The fight is still currently in negotiations meaning that the terms are being WORKED on. Nothing is finalized, he can't agree to demands that are still being negotiated between camps Again, Manny's side has been saying that they agreed. There is less than 10 days left in the month. You mean to tell me that Floyd's team didn't mention something important by now to Manny's team? Sorry but I nor anyone reasonable does NOT buy that for a second nor should you IF you were objective about it. What did Manny's side agree on? Where/What are Floyd's terms? Terms are typically outlined in a CONTRACT. Where is the contract? Did Arum send a contract? Did Floyd send a contract? This is the whole point of the video. Ariza is bashing Arum for playing "hardball" and imposing a deadline for Floyd to sign a FICTIONAL CONTRACT. Read the red above for my response. It's pretty simple, Manny could not have agreed to EVERYTHING because things such as purse split, promotional company, etc. are still being worked out. There is no agreement as there is no contract that has been signed or even offered at this point. A verbal commit means nothing. High school athletes verbally commit to play at schools all the time and then when SIGNING day comes they change their minds. Ariza is upset that Arum is downplaying the fact that there are still ONGOING negotiations. He is upset that the media keeps mentioning an agreement and contracts when there is no agreement or contract that is on the table waiting for Floyd's signature. It's hard to agree to a fight that you haven't even been offered yet. It's like if you were offered a job after an on the spot interview and the interviewer said you would be paid 80k/year. You can verbally agree, but if the contract says 20k/year then the verbal agreement was moot as it didn't really mean anything regarding the offer that was PUT ON THE TABLE.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/01/21/15/ariza-floyd-fighting-may-2-not-vs-pacquiao By Steve Angeles, ABS-CBN North America News Bureau Posted at 01/21/2015 4:08 PM HOLLYWOOD, California – The speculation of a Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather mega fight was the talk of the red carpet at the Hollywood premier of “Manny.” “It's on the brink of becoming reality. If this fight comes to fruition it's going to break all records,” said boxing legend “Sugar” Ray Leonard. “Everybody wants to see that fight. It's the dream fight hopefully one day,” said popular UFC ring girl Arianne Celeste. “The Pacman” said the waiting game continues. Mayweather has until the end of the month to sign the contract. “We'll… hintayin natin ‘yung decision nila,” he said. However, one man familiar with both fighters said the fight won't happen. Alex Ariza, Pacquiao's former strength and conditioning coach who now works with the undefeated Mayweather, said there's one man to blame if the fight fails. “It's not going to happen. We're fighting May 2nd but it's not going to be Manny Pacquiao,” he said. “Hopefully eventually Bob Arum will blow away in the wind or whatever. As soon as we get rid of him, we can get it on.” Ariza said that Mayweather will fight again in May. Top Rank has said that Pacquiao's camp has agreed to all of Mayweather's terms, while HBO and Showtime are negotiating the pay per view television rights of the proposed mega fight. If the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight does not happen, several opponents have been floated around for both fighters. Mayweather may have rematch with Miguel Cotto, while Danny Garcia and Amir Kahn may face Pacquiao. So Floyd will fight Manny when Manny signs with Mayweather? Blame old snake Arum for everything....the guy wouldn't have talked to Moonves if he didn't want to try and make the fight happen. Retire Floyd, no one is watching that rehashed Cotto garbage.

Ariza is a joke, attention whore. Trying to be the spokeperson of his coward team. they can go f*#k themselves. the whole world is sick and tired of their coward a$$!!!! since 2008 they're just doing the same ***** all over again!

Let me explain something you fcuking douche bag. The initial post in this thread was of an article, which I read. It did not have a video imbedded. Imadazedcunt posted a video a few posts later from fighthype. I didn't watch it. One: because of who posted it. Two: because I usually read the initial post and article. Not some follow up post by one of the more notorious floyd d1ckriders on this site. Then his little girlfriend Joseph steps in and sticks up for him with his typical racebaiting bullsh1t. This is what nsb has become. So sorry to interrupt the daily anti-Floyd circle jerks with things like sources. Man I hate how people be posting sources in NSB and sh*t nowadays, makes it so hard to frantically try to reignite the fading embers of Pacquiao's superstardom.

Why are you so angry buddy? Calm down. Ariza is saying that there is no contract and thus by extension there is nothing that could have been really agreed upon. He is expressing that there is a lot of smoke being blown around as the networks are still negotiating on the PPV and distribution details. He is angry that Arum keeps saying that everything is agreed upon and they are just waiting on Mayweather when the exact opposite is true. He believes this is typical of Arum, and he also believes that Arum is trying to ruin the fight by disrespecting the legitimacy of the currently ONGOING negotiations and attempting to force Mayweather to commit to terms that aren't real. Pac couldn't have agreed to Mayweather's terms because Mayweather hasn't made a formal offer. There is no contract, Pac hasn't signed anything. Pac has verbally committed to terms that we have no details about. He is expressing that if Pac is agreeing to "Everything" that Arum should be able to produce a contract offer that they sent to camp Mayweather conceding to all of the terms. There was a lot said. I'm angry? Sorry but you don't know me. Just by that, I need to question your opinion. You thought that I was angry and I know for a fact I wasn't. I said that Ariza's interview is a big fat joke. Sorry but the news of late contradicts with what Ariza said. Also, Ariza contradicted himself. Manny's team can't sign until the Networks come to an agreement too. Right? ..... but what Arum and Manny are saying is that whatever the demands that were issued unto Manny were agreed upon. That to me is very easy to understand. Floyd's team would have been insanely dumb to have missed in their demands any of the major issues. So perhaps some minor items which were not asked by the Floyd's team were not agreed since was not initially mentioned. Who knows. Again, Manny's side has been saying that they agreed. There is less than 10 days left in the month. You mean to tell me that Floyd's team didn't mention something important by now to Manny's team? Sorry but I nor anyone reasonable does NOT buy that for a second nor should you IF you were objective about it. .

Just a joke of an interview. What did Ariza really tell us? NOTHING! So why is he blaming Arum when he told us NOTHING! Why are you so angry buddy? Calm down. Ariza is saying that there is no contract and thus by extension there is nothing that could have been really agreed upon. He is expressing that there is a lot of smoke being blown around as the networks are still negotiating on the PPV and distribution details. He is angry that Arum keeps saying that everything is agreed upon and they are just waiting on Mayweather when the exact opposite is true. He believes this is typical of Arum, and he also believes that Arum is trying to ruin the fight by disrespecting the legitimacy of the currently ONGOING negotiations and attempting to force Mayweather to commit to terms that aren't real. Pac couldn't have agreed to Mayweather's terms because Mayweather hasn't made a formal offer. There is no contract, Pac hasn't signed anything. Pac has verbally committed to terms that we have no details about. He is expressing that if Pac is agreeing to "Everything" that Arum should be able to produce a contract offer that they sent to camp Mayweather conceding to all of the terms. There was a lot said.

Ariza interview is a big fat joke! He brings up the Floyd $40 million offer in 2012. Are you serious? Ariza says "Ask the tough questions of what exactly was agreed upon."......... but then says that "nobody is supposed to talk about the details." So Ariza, you freaking answered your own question! Just a joke of an interview. What did Ariza really tell us? NOTHING! So why is he blaming Arum when he told us NOTHING!

Floyd does not want to fight Pacquiao its as simple as that.. PERIOD.. Anyone who sees otherswise is just plain BLIND Say it again

Says the guy too thick to understand that the article is sourced from a video. Let me explain something you fcuking douche bag. The initial post in this thread was of an article, which I read. It did not have a video imbedded. Imadazedcunt posted a video a few posts later from fighthype. I didn't watch it. One: because of who posted it. Two: because I usually read the initial post and article. Not some follow up post by one of the more notorious floyd d1ckriders on this site. Then his little girlfriend Joseph steps in and sticks up for him with his typical racebaiting bullsh1t. This is what nsb has become.

Bullsh*t.. NO MAN would ever turn down a 100 million dollars because he hate the other man. It's business. lol He's just scared.. "Health Comes First" Floyd doesn't hate Bob. At the height of Floyd's "dump Bob and join me" routine, he and Arum were photographed hanging out all jolly with their arms around each other at the VIP box at an NFL game. He hates him enough to forfeit tens of millions of dollars, maybe a hundred million plus, but still hangs out with him in his free time? Good lord boxing fans eat this stuff up worse than pro wrestling fans.

i never said or acted like it was an official number you thought i was being serious also when i put "no buboy" in there? the point is if floyd had his way 100% like he wants(which is why it hasn't been agreed to) he'll put pacquiao through the wringer with bullsht after bullsht pacquiao agreeing to everything is pacquiao agreeing to as much as he can, this means he's not leaving arum, and he's not accepting a bullsht no ppv offer and yes, just about all of our posts is speculation, but speculation with reason a·gree·ment noun a negotiated and typically legally binding arrangement between parties as to a course of action Notice how the word negotiated is in past tense. Meaning that in order to reach an agreement the negotiations must be finished. So how exactly are they agreeing with all terms when the terms are still being negotiated between camps?