First look at the intangibles of each fighter, the bolded is with out question, can argue with the others.
Handspeed - Equal
Defence - Rigo
Power - Rigo
Footwork - Rigo
Offence - Floyd
Floyd has always had trouble with lefties compared to orthodox fighters and the Judah fight (yes he kicked his ass in the end) is the blue print of this match up p4p. Rigondeaux is light years ahead of Zab but Zab gave Floyd lots of trouble early on with his athletic talent and movement, Rigo the master would go one further and beat Floyd. Rigondeaux on the other hand has dealt with 'speed' boxers a million times in the amateurs and it showed when he totally negated Donaire last year. I just envisage Rigo controlling the pace of the fight, Floyd having to lead and trying straight rights while Rigo moves him around the ring with his superior footwork and potshots with his own left. Floyd wouldn't be able to come forward recklessly either because Rigo can crack and his shoulder roll defence is also completely nullified by Rigo's stance.
Agree/Disagree?
p4p is silly talk, to me at least nevermind comparing two fighters that are 6 divisions apart.
Its like comparing a Kovalev to a Wladimir on some mystical basis.
It blows my mind how you have people claiming Floyd hits harder on a p4p basis, give me some of what you're smoking!
Intangibles, footwork, sure there is a gauge there and I will go to my grave believing Rigondeaux has the better footwork & nothing is changing that.
To me they are the best two fighters in the sport by some distance. There is to many things you can't possibly put into perspective in order to form an educated opinion or assessment. It is nothing but guess work and who you basically prefer as a fighter.
We haven't seen either guy fight anybody absolutely anywhere near the talent of the other or anything else. The closest we'll probably ever have to knowing is Floyd vs Judah...lol
Its crazy. You might as well be asking who wins a fight between Bigfoot & the Loch ness monster providing both was the same size. Its either fanboyism or its a bit of fun. I am not sure why anyone is taking it seriously.
Lol. Best post in this thread.
This is like the elementary school debate on who would win between Batman and Spider Man.
p4p is silly talk, to me at least nevermind comparing two fighters that are 6 divisions apart.
Its like comparing a Kovalev to a Wladimir on some mystical basis.
It blows my mind how you have people claiming Floyd hits harder on a p4p basis, give me some of what you're smoking!
Intangibles, footwork, sure there is a gauge there and I will go to my grave believing Rigondeaux has the better footwork & nothing is changing that.
To me they are the best two fighters in the sport by some distance. There is to many things you can't possibly put into perspective in order to form an educated opinion or assessment. It is nothing but guess work and who you basically prefer as a fighter.
We haven't seen either guy fight anybody absolutely anywhere near the talent of the other or anything else. The closest we'll probably ever have to knowing is Floyd vs Judah...lol
Its crazy. You might as well be asking who wins a fight between Bigfoot & the Loch ness monster providing both was the same size. Its either fanboyism or its a bit of fun. I am not sure why anyone is taking it seriously.
Pretty sure 90% of the board and boxing media was saying the exact same thing about Donaire before he took him to school.
Comparing Floyd to Donaire.
Sick post, you're clearly the GPOAT.
That was sarcasm if you didn't catch it.
A guy with 10 fights is better than Floyd and would beat him. Only on NSB. :rofl:
Embarrassing thread.
Pretty sure 90% of the board and boxing media was saying the exact same thing about Donaire before he took him to school.
Rigo is not by the book, are you crazy? By the book would be Ricardo Lopez.
Rigo is a unique talent that does things in a way that nobody else has ever been able to do them.
I will take the guy who is 45-0 and never been knocked down in his career, over a guy with only twelve fight who has been knocked down and hurt quite a few times, even though he is an amazing master boxer.
Quality post.
Floyd takes this 8 out of 10 times in my opinion. Rigo is truly an amazing talent but we have to be honest with ourselves and admit Floyd is just better and has proven it in the ring. Hes fought professionally much longer and has also fought better competition. Im not going to bash Rigo in any way but he has not proven hes better than Floyd. Floyd has proven hes better than Rigo and thats the whole truth.
I will take the guy who is 45-0 and never been knocked down in his career, over a guy with only twelve fight who has been knocked down and hurt quite a few times, even though he is an amazing master boxer.
Rigondeaux has better defensive statistics than Floyd does.
What does that mean?
Rigondeaux's had like 13 fights and the majority of which were against bums.
Rigo is not by the book, are you crazy? By the book would be Ricardo Lopez.
Rigo is a unique talent that does things in a way that nobody else has ever been able to do them.
You've not watched a lot of boxing then?
Handspeed- Even
Defense- Definitely Floyd
Offense- Floyd
Power- Rigo
Footwork- Floyd
Intellect- Floyd
Rigodeaux got knocked on his ass and caught by punches that were blatantly stupid to get caught by. He can't fight inside and his clinch game is weak.
Rigondeaux has better defensive statistics than Floyd does.
rigo doesnt have more power then floyd
rigo is a boxing textbook
floyd has waaaaaay more intangibles. rigo does everything to a tee by the book. floyd you can't replicate how he fights, its in his blood. floyd can bang, even tho he mostly boxes smart
Rigo is not by the book, are you crazy? By the book would be Ricardo Lopez.
Rigo is a unique talent that does things in a way that nobody else has ever been able to do them.
Rigondeaux is severely underrated. Whooped Gamboa's ass in amateurs, Mares, Russell Jr and countless others. Everyone who has ever worked with him have proclaimed him to be the best talent they've seen. His whole weight class is running in fear from him and at the same time show their admiration for his skill. Arce "Rigondeaux is the best in the world, better than Mayweather".
Rigondeaux has undoubtedly better footwork than Floyd and I think better defence too. The little guys he is fighting are much faster than Welterweights and yet he is statistically, the hardest guy to hit in the sport.
The problem is we will never know how good he could have been. Right now we are seeing a shell of the 2-time gold medalist. Imagine if he was able to successfully defect in 2004 immediately after winning his second gold medal. It's basically a waste of 5 years of his prime.
He would be a 10 year pro, he would have been 24 years old when he turned pro and he would be much more seasoned. He probably would have started at 118 or below and would be on his 2nd or 3rd weight division right now.