Appropriate music! Love that Wynton Kelly ****...
One of the best things I've seen in a long time. Love developing my ability to appreciate boxing. Jazz and Boxing, two great loves.
That was Miles Davis from the "Kind Of Blue" album.
The speed would definitely surprise him in the early rounds, but the difference between Floyd and Bradley is that once Floyd figures out your rhythm, he can adapt to what you're doing and make you fight at his pace. Manny's speed is only effective if you're constantly giving him the same approach. You can freeze him out with feints and the touch-jab.
http://i.minus.com/iMjknkfXuH2C4.gif
feints, constant touch-jab set up, right hand lead.
Nice gif.
Morales looked like eerily similar to Mayweather there, feinting then shooting the right hand.
judah is proven to fade late rounds all the time
u say floyd would beat manny
i then would say floyd has not fought a fighter as fast and as mobile as manny
the speed might going to surprise him because its been a decade since judah
The speed would definitely surprise him in the early rounds, but the difference between Floyd and Bradley is that once Floyd figures out your rhythm, he can adapt to what you're doing and make you fight at his pace. Manny's speed is only effective if you're constantly giving him the same approach. You can freeze him out with feints and the touch-jab.
http://i.minus.com/iMjknkfXuH2C4.gif
feints, constant touch-jab set up, right hand lead.
Judah caught Floyd with a right hook after Floyd threw/landed a straight right hand to the body. It's totally different than throwing stiff scoring jabs upstairs and getting counter over with the right hook the way Bradley constantly got countered against Manny. How many times did Judah landed that same counter shot against Floyd afterwards? I never said it would be easy work, i just said Floyd would beat him.
judah is proven to fade late rounds all the time
u say floyd would beat manny
i then would say floyd has not fought a fighter as fast and as mobile as manny
the speed might going to surprise him because its been a decade since judah
u saw how judah landed right hooks on floyd, then u say manny wouldnt land?
mannys combination and stamina>>> judah
manny has the upper hand vs fast fighters
floyds last fast fighter was judah which is 10years ago?
its not easy to call not as u thought it would be
Judah caught Floyd with a right hook after Floyd threw/landed a straight right hand to the body. It's totally different than throwing stiff scoring jabs upstairs and getting counter over with the right hook the way Bradley constantly got countered against Manny. How many times did Judah landed that same counter shot against Floyd afterwards? I never said it would be easy work, i just said Floyd would beat him.
Hands speed wise, Judah probably was faster than Manny. Manny hasn't fought anyone on the same level as Floyd either. You can say Bradley is as fast or faster than Floyd, but Bradley doesn't fight smart all the time or has correct punching technique, proper timing, or understanding of range and measuring, etc.
u saw how judah landed right hooks on floyd, then u say manny wouldnt land?
mannys combination and stamina>>> judah
manny has the upper hand vs fast fighters
floyds last fast fighter was judah which is 10years ago?
its not easy to call not as u thought it would be
hard to agree when floyd has not fought a guy as fast as manny
Hands speed wise, Judah probably was faster than Manny. Manny hasn't fought anyone on the same level as Floyd either. You can say Bradley is as fast or faster than Floyd, but Bradley doesn't fight smart all the time or has correct punching technique, proper timing, or understanding of range and measuring, etc. Then again, Judah doesn't have the heart of Manny.
The touch-jab/feints would keep freeze out Manny too. Some of make it seem like Manny is constantly moving and doesn't get reset from feints and set up jab. The video creator has a video of Pacquiao/Bradley II analysis and the mistake that Bradley made was that he tried to landed scoring jabs against Manny, and Manny countered over with the right hook or lead straight left, he wouldn't be able to consistently do that to Floyd because Floyd would use the touch-jab without fully extending and draw him out to throw the pump fake right hand double-jab, and counter over it with long angle left hook and or jab counter. Let's just put it this way, Bradley fought short after the first few early rounds, Floyd always fights tall. He understand and utilize range better than Bradley does.
hard to agree when floyd has not fought a guy as fast as manny
The touch-jab/feints would freeze out Manny too. Some of you make it seem like Manny is constantly moving and doesn't get reset from feints and set up jabs. The video creator has a video of Pacquiao/Bradley II analysis and the mistake that Bradley made was that he tried to landed scoring jabs against Manny, and Manny countered over with the right hook or lead straight left, he wouldn't be able to consistently do that to Floyd because Floyd would use the touch-jab without fully extending and draw him out to force him to throw the pump fake right hand double-jab, then Floyd would counter over it with a long angle left hook and or jab. Let's just put it this way, Bradley fought short after the first few early rounds, Floyd always fights tall. He understand and utilize range better than Bradley does.
Who in this generation isn't flat footed? I see fighters get knocked out cold by flat footed fighters and hurt. There has never been a fighter that was on Floyd level of foot quickness and smart timing. People that say he ducked certain boxers, are boxers that are flat footed. I don't get it..
pac is probably flat footed for u
which is sad
A prime Cotto would have been fighting a prime Floyd -- A Floyd that was a lot quicker of hand and foot, than the aged version.
Floyd would have torched Cotto, who still has the same style, but as you stated was much more aggressive.
I agree to a point that the Margarito fight took something from Cotto, (mainly confidence) but the Cotto that fought Floyd was still hungry and vicious, but as flat-footed as ever. And the Floyd Cotto fought, was a lot more stationary and didn't move and give as many angles.
Dating back to when both were with TR\Arum, and Floyd was petitioning for the fight ... I honestly think Floyd would have beat the crap out of Cotto because he was out to prove himself more than he is now.
IMHO, the outcome would have been the same regardless of the date ....
okay thats ur opinion
but u also have to consider that cotto b4 marg was a monster in throwing body shots
after marg cotto seems to cover his face more and throw less
Notice at how many times that the ref was about to break it up due to the illegal tactics by Floyd? Elbowing, holding with one arm and punching...... Floyd does a lot of that and is even more obvious with the slow mo ....
So far only watched half of that but also noticed how flat-footed everyone was that was fighting Floyd.
if a past prime cotto troubled floyd
a prime fealess cotto would do much more dude
margaritos pressure placed permanent fear on cotto
if floyd fought cotto b4 that he would have to deal with a fearless version of cotto
A prime Cotto would have been fighting a prime Floyd -- A Floyd that was a lot quicker of hand and foot, than the aged version.
Floyd would have torched Cotto, who still has the same style, but as you stated was much more aggressive.
I agree to a point that the Margarito fight took something from Cotto, (mainly confidence) but the Cotto that fought Floyd was still hungry and vicious, but as flat-footed as ever. And the Floyd Cotto fought, was a lot more stationary and didn't move and give as many angles.
Dating back to when both were with TR\Arum, and Floyd was petitioning for the fight ... I honestly think Floyd would have beat the crap out of Cotto because he was out to prove himself more than he is now.
IMHO, the outcome would have been the same regardless of the date ....
its easy to look good againts slow plodding fighters, b c class fighter, or past prime A fighters
give floyd againts someone with bradleys reflex, or khan speed, or pacs footwork youll see how floyd hits all air....
Watching this video is when you realize Miguel Cotto pre Marg and Pacquiao still would of gotten the same result against Floyd.
if a past prime cotto troubled floyd
a prime fealess cotto would do much more dude
margaritos pressure placed permanent fear on cotto
if floyd fought cotto b4 that he would have to deal with a fearless version of cotto
When you are missing and getting countered it makes you stop and think
:lol1: They start thinking even more when Floyds shots are stinging the hell out of them.
Why do posters like you come to Floyd threads just to post rubbish??damn you clearly do not like him, just fvck off and lets his actual fans enjoy the threads..your posts are are not going to make us not order his fights and not be fans
You and other Floyd fans do the same chit with Pac threads. I'm just returning the favor.