Who is more likely to be able to beat a prime Jon Jones in a street fight Ali or Mike Tyson ?

[BirdSong]

and boxing is? i'd say the sport where you can grapple, elbow, kick, punch, knee to the head and punch someone on the floor resembles a fight more than one where you just throw punches with thick gloves on and clinch when you are up close before the ref breaks it up to start again

yeah but im not sure what % of street fights end with someone geting waxed by a fist but id say its VERY HIGH actually more likely stabbed or bottle on the head if u think aboutit~!!! or 3 v 1 as a few other friends pile in, does a 'FAIR' street fight even exist???

[Ezio Valentino Madison]

They are martial artists turned actors.
So boxing doesn't qualify as a real fight. Despite a good 90% of fights being two people throwing nothing but hands?

Tyson had plenty of Street fights; Mitch Green for one, a real thug and a real Street fighter.
Wesley Snipes for another.
He grew up fighting everyday on the Streets and was arrested countless times as a kid which is how he came to taking up boxing.

Its funny to me most act like boxers can't Street fight when most literally took up boxing for ****ing up people in Street fights and then taking up boxing.

so your argument is that because he beat mitch green, wesley snipes and he got arrested a few times that means he could beat arguably the best and most rounded MMA fighter of all time? Jones takes him down straight away and tyson has absolutely zero idea what to do at that point, hence why every single UFC fighter learns grappling, although seems as if they are all wasting their time according to you guys they just need to know how to box lol

[Ezio Valentino Madison]

fact is that no high level boxer has been willing to compromise in any rules against a UFC fighter... they know they would be embarrassed, hence why every UFC/boxing crossover is done with 100 percent boxing rules.... they wont even let the UFC fighters have 1 round out of 12 where they can do takedowns, kicks and grappling

[IronDanHamza]

fact is that no high level boxer has been willing to compromise in any rules against a UFC fighter... they know they would be embarrassed, hence why every UFC/boxing crossover is done with 100 percent boxing rules.... they wont even let the UFC fighters have 1 round out of 12 where they can do takedowns, kicks and grappling

There’s been some.

James Toney fought Randy Couture in the UFC. It was comical

Some brain dead people actually thought Toney was going to win too with this “mean street fightin skillz” + Boxing.

Same kinda nonsense being spouted in this thread. In the realms of Batshit crazy talk.

The reality is Jon Jones could “street fight” every top 10 ranked HW one after the other and none of them see a minute.

[TMLT87]

And I told them that the UFC fighters would end up using their boxing to dominate the sport, ie Georges St-Pierre and Anderson Silva

This didnt really happen though? the only predominantly boxing based champ right now is Ilia, who wrestled since he was 7, is a BJJ black belt, and has tons of submission wins. So he has all that in his back pocket in case you dont want to box with him. Its not some "win" for boxing when an MMA dude uses punches to win a fight lol. The point is you need to be well rounded to make it all work.

Only fight I can think of where GSP used predominantly boxing to win was the Koscheck rematch. Overall he used a ton of wrestling in fights, and came from a karate background. And Anderson used kicks, knees and elbows extensively. The Fryklund elbow KO, the Vitor head kick KO, obliterating Franklin with knees from the clinch etc etc. Guy was a BJJ black belt also, and that got him out of a sticky situation in the first Chael fight. Neither of those guys can be described as boxers.

[TMLT87]

There’s been some.

James Toney fought Randy Couture in the UFC. It was comical

Some brain dead people actually thought Toney was going to win too with this “mean street fightin skillz” + Boxing.

Same kinda nonsense being spouted in this thread. In the realms of Batshit crazy talk.

The reality is Jon Jones could “street fight” every top 10 ranked HW one after the other and none of them see a minute.

The telling thing about the Toney/Randy fight as well is that Toney straight up TAPPED.

Toney was a fearless tough as nails dude, an absolute warrior. But being put in a choke made him **** himself and quit out of self preservation rather than have the world go black. But you have people telling themselves that if you get put in a choke its as simple and easy as attacking someones balls or eyes or biting them and you'll get away.

The UFC were actually being nice to Toney giving him Randy as well. It was about as quick and painless as it could have been because Randy was an older guy, the smallest guy they could have had fight at HW and he didnt have an ego. A lot of guys would have tried to prove a point and laid into him with elbows etc on the ground or tried to break his arm/leg instead of just choking him out.

[dan_cov]

If its in the heat of the moment like a typical Street fight and he doesn't know who Tyson is then he's almost certainly done for.

If a boxer losses a foot in or the MMA fighter knows they're a boxer and avoids it which is pretty much premeditated then of course they would have the upper hand. They still wouldn't be shooting for ankles on concrete.

People, most fans do not understand how fast a boxers hands are especially without wraps and gloves. These guys have never in their life seen anything like it or the footwork, angles, foot speed etc

This is pretty much how every Street fight starts.
You think an MMA fighter is taking that shot? Or going to have the awareness to get out of harms way for those split second reaction counterpunches?
He literally ate that flush and threw 3 counters in a split second

[dan_cov]

They'd be better off shooting for ankles on concrete tbf

They can't even survive on the feet with a Youtuber ffs

[famicommander]

fact is that no high level boxer has been willing to compromise in any rules against a UFC fighter... they know they would be embarrassed, hence why every UFC/boxing crossover is done with 100 percent boxing rules.... they wont even let the UFC fighters have 1 round out of 12 where they can do takedowns, kicks and grappling

Ray Mercer knocked out Tim Sylvia in an MMA fight, right at the beginning. Of course, if it had gone on 20 seconds longer Mercer would've been taken down and tapped out, but he landed first. He also embarrassingly got choked out in another fight by Kimbo Slice of all people, but he did knock out a former UFC heavyweight champ in an MMA fight. Ray was pushing 50 and fat as hell at the time, too.

Kubrat Pulev beat Frank Mir in a mixed rules fight (boxing punches, backfists, holding and hitting allowed with smaller gloves in a triangular ring). Dan "if he dies, he does" Miragliotta almost lived up to the nickname in this one, leaving Mir very vulnerable, but Pulev decided to hold back and not kill him.

But obviously, these are the exceptions and the fighter with grappling and kickboxing in his toolbox is going to win the vast majority of the time against a guy who only has boxing in the toolbox. The boxer basically has to win on the first exchange of the fight or they're screwed. Possible, but very unlikely.

[dan_cov]

People just have no idea how muscle memory works and the split second reaction timing we're dealing with here.

These big stiff, roided up wrestlers are so slow and have no processing ability. Their natural reaction is throw themselves at a guys legs.
It might work in MMA but on concrete where you're going to wreck your knees, elbows etc its a different ball game. Its completely overblown because MMA is a restricted form of fighting which people seem to struggle to grasp that doesn't allow for kicking a downed opponent, stamping, every type of elbow, eye gauges, kicks to the nuts etc
Most of which would be on full display in the same situation in the Street.

They've rewritten the rules basically so the sport favours grapplers a whole lot more and in turn its effectiveness gets really overrated based on how effective it is in MMA.