Who is more likely to be able to beat a prime Jon Jones in a street fight Ali or Mike Tyson ?

[IronDanHamza]

Shannon Briggs fought in K1
Frans Botha
Jarrell Miller

You said "40 odd year old boxers who fought better kickers than Alex"

Are you now saying that TOM ERIKSON is a better kicker than Alex Perriera?

Honestly mate, get a clue. There is no point having this conversation when you are saying BATSHIT things such as this.

[IronDanHamza]

A lot of actors are martial artists first and foremost. Wesley Snipes while maybe not a legit fighter per say is certainly a legitimate martial artist and could almost certainly handle himself.

Michael Jai White is another

They are actors. Not fighters.

Where are these videos of Mike Tyson in "countless real fights" vs "legit martial artists"?

I'm dying to see them.

[IronDanHamza]

Alex has 100+ fights and never put a single person on the floor via one leg kick.

Calf and thigh kicks hurt for sure but they're extremely unlikely to end a fight with one kick especially with adrenaline.

Can anyone show me one bout or Street fight that was ended with just one leg kick?

They're effective and hurt but typically its more the accumulation of them that take effect, its not a fight ending shot like a punch to the chin or a headkick. Though I'll agree going shin to shin absolutely sucks and is one of the worst feelings

Again, tell me you have never taken a leg kick without telling me you have never taken a leg kick.

If you think Mike Tyson could take a single calf kick from Alex without being extremely compromised then I strongly suggest further revision ASAP.

[dan_cov]

Its definitely harder to apply a guillotine on someone with a very short neck that is as thick as their head allowing them to slip out a lot easier not to mention the sheer strength advantage.

Danis would certainly struggle even if Tyson gave up everything and obliged in jiu-jitsu only, he's not only 50lbs heavier but infinitely more stronger, athletic, better balanced and more explosive. He'd get a hold of something eventually but I highly doubt it'd be as easy as you think purely because of the size and strength advantage. Granted he could be really dumb and give him something silly its a possibility but you have to ask yourself just how effective is it truly when it requires your opponent to play along and place themselves between your legs and such for it to be effective. Even in MMA vs guys his own size who was literally pulled from the crowd he had multiple take down attempts stuffed with ease.

Is size alone enough? No. But is it enough to make it difficult? of course.


Congratulations on the blue belt

[dan_cov]

You said "40 odd year old boxers who fought better kickers than Alex"

Are you now saying that TOM ERIKSON is a better kicker than Alex Perriera?

Honestly mate, get a clue. There is no point having this conversation when you are saying BATSHIT things such as this.

So you're going to ignore the other two to pick a fault with Tom Erikksen.
Ok how about Bonjasky, Aerts, Abidi, Sefo, etc - Are we going to pretend Alex is better or a better leg kicker than those?
Or all the kickboxers Miller fought

You'll say this is insane but Alex isn't a particularly good kicker, he is in the sense its effective but from a technique standpoint it leaves a lot to be desired.

[IronDanHamza]

So you're going to ignore the other two to pick a fault with Tom Erikksen.
Ok how about Bonjasky, Aerts, Abidi, Sefo, etc - Are we going to pretend Alex is better or a better leg kicker than those?
Or all the kickboxers Miller fought

Well yeah because you used Tom Erikson as an example for being a better kicker than Pererria which is obviously absurd.

Who did Miller beat on the level of Perriera?

You'll say this is insane but Alex isn't a particularly good kicker, he is in the sense its effective but from a technique standpoint it leaves a lot to be desired.

Yes, flat out insane.

Alex Perriera is a top top top level kick boxer I'm not sure if you're aware.

[dan_cov]

They are actors. Not fighters.

Where are these videos of Mike Tyson in "countless real fights" vs "legit martial artists"?

I'm dying to see them.

They are martial artists turned actors.
So boxing doesn't qualify as a real fight. Despite a good 90% of fights being two people throwing nothing but hands?

Tyson had plenty of Street fights; Mitch Green for one, a real thug and a real Street fighter.
Wesley Snipes for another.
He grew up fighting everyday on the Streets and was arrested countless times as a kid which is how he came to taking up boxing.

Its funny to me most act like boxers can't Street fight when most literally took up boxing for ****ing up people in Street fights and then taking up boxing.

[IronDanHamza]

Its definitely harder to apply a guillotine on someone with a very short neck that is as thick as their head allowing them to slip out a lot easier not to mention the sheer strength advantage.

It's actually not.

Danis would certainly struggle even if Tyson gave up everything and obliged in jiu-jitsu only, he's not only 50lbs heavier but infinitely more stronger, athletic, better balanced and more explosive. He'd get a hold of something eventually but I highly doubt it'd be as easy as you think purely because of the size and strength advantage. Granted he could be really dumb and give him something silly its a possibility but you have to ask yourself just how effective is it truly when it requires your opponent to play along and place themselves between your legs and such for it to be effective. Even in MMA vs guys his own size who was literally pulled from the crowd he had multiple take down attempts stuffed with ease.

Is size alone enough? No. But is it enough to make it difficult? of course.

It's so funny that you really honestly think Mike Tyson has any choice in the matter here

Dillon Danis is an extremely high level Jiu Jitsu black belt. In a Jiu Jitsu match, the chances of it even lasting 1 minute is minimal. The chances of Mike Tyson even being competitve in any capacity is flat earth level stuff.

Congratulations on the blue belt

Thanks.

[dan_cov]

Well yeah because you used Tom Erikson as an example for being a better kicker than Pererria which is obviously absurd.

Who did Miller beat on the level of Perriera?




Yes, flat out insane.

Alex Perriera is a top top top level kick boxer I'm not sure if you're aware.

I was just naming boxers who ate leg kicks cause you was acting like a boxer couldn't take a single one which as we've seen from multiple videos simply isn't the case.
Botha fought much better kickboxers and kickers than Alex.

Not sure who he beat other than Pat Barry but he fought Cro Cop twice (one bad decision against him iirc). Point is he did exceptionally well with just boxing and ate all their kicks

[IronDanHamza]

They are martial artists turned actors.
So boxing doesn't qualify as a real fight. Despite a good 90% of fights being two people throwing nothing but hands?

No, they are boxing matches.

You said there are countless videos of Mike Tyson having street fights. You are not talking about his pro boxing matches when you say that, surely?

Tyson had plenty of Street fights; Mitch Green for one, a real thug and a real Street fighter.
Wesley Snipes for another.
He grew up fighting everyday on the Streets and was arrested countless times as a kid which is how he came to taking up boxing.

Its funny to me most act like boxers can't Street fight when most literally took up boxing for ****ing up people in Street fights and then taking up boxing.

Mitch Green is a boxer.

Mike Tyson and Wesley Snipes never had a fight, that's folk law that both have denied happened.

Boxers can fight on the street, sure. I'm sure they'd do fantastically well.

Obviously not against elite MMA fighters, though.