Canelo would be blowing out of his arse after a few rounds having been made to work every second with the mental fatigue that GGG puts on you and not take the rest spells that he loves. There's no way he wouldn't have times where he would be up against the ropes - Smith threw a couple of feints and was catching Canelo clean. GGG is the master of feinting and touching one shot then blasting the next. He gives GGG trouble at times but I honestly can't see him lasting 6 with his style. Keep getting flashbacks of Jose Cotto having him in all sorts of trouble.
I bagged 4, luckily ticketmaster had a countdown on their site which i used to refresh my eventim page.
On the Frampton side which suits me just fine
Which 1 of 3 sides is that? ;)
I think for the fighter its about finding their ceiling as a champion. With the greats they took on extraordinary challenges and in some cases failed and others succeeded. I'll give you two examples Ray Leonard fighting Hagler was extraordinary even more so when you consider the circumstances. Sugar Ray Robinson fighting for the light heavyweight title was an extraordinary attempt, in the first case Leonard won and enhanced his legacy greatly, in Ray Robinson's case he lost but the attempt is glorified today because it was a daring attempt to say the least and even in loss enhanced his legacy greatly. In both cases though the said fighters exposed their ceiling, it didn't matter the result per se, but they pushed themselves to a situation where people doubted them and their ability to accomplish the task or even survive it. You can throw Ali-Foreman into this equation.
I think Floyd Mayweather has just fallen short even though I think he has as much talent as any of the aforementioned fighters. I think he has as much physical talent as I've seen, apart from maybe Roy Jones. But he has never tried to find his ceiling for me. I don't think he is built that way, he measures risk vs reward always, its hard to criticise him for that, the only time you can is when he starts to call himself the best ever. At that point you can criticise him, because he has consistently not tried to seek the hardest challenges for best opponents. Also and the most important thing - even though he has had some close fights and a debatable win (Castillo I) he certainly hasn't tried to find his ceiling.
This sums it up perfectly
If Golovkin was 29 i would say smw is where he goes and shines but he is almost 35. I still think he can go there and make some noise and there isnt anyone there right now that will cause him any problems if he goes in a hurry. Jack or Degale didnt impress me and i think he deals with them pretty easily. To be honest Bute tonight would have caused him all kinds of problems but most of you guys wont see that. Bute will be well past it by the time Golovkin gets there.
This Bute?
He didn't do it to be entertaining. He did it because he's not fast or sharp enough anymore to stay on the outside against McGregor. He knew walking forward with his hands up that it would panic McGregor into throwing shots that would tire him out. He sucked up a bit of punishment and then took over. Good gameplan but he wasnt great tbh. Timing was off and accuracy was poor. Father time has gotten to him.
I think if these 2 fought without a finite number of rounds then Margarito wins 90% of the time because of their styles and Cotto doesnt have the power to hurt Marg.
Cotto was slowing down but he probably would have lasted the 12. If it was a 15 rounder then Marg probably wins.
More rounds = more chance for Marg but 12 didnt look like enough this time. Marg has got a little worse (plus his eye is knackered) and Cotto fought a smarter fight
http://youtu.be/bJiJvGvhqBg
Watch the last round *****! Cotto landed good shots, but they didn't effect Margarito at all. Watch the video. Who is running and holding? Who is back peddling to the other side of the ring constantly? Who is coming forward like a maniac? The pace was starting to pick up. Margarito threw 100 punches in that round. I don't if Margarito would have stopped him. All I'm saying the fight was breaking Margarito's way.....*****!!!
I'm with you man. Cotto looked exhausted going back to his corner at the end of that round. Not saying Marg would have won...but to me its pretty obvious that the more rounds this fight went on there would be an exponential increase in Marg's chances of stopping Cotto
Its funny how Floyd repeatedly says he never accused Manny of being on steroids...thats his only answer.
Its as if his lawyer has drummed into him to have that as his response.
OK Floyd...you mightnt have said it....but you have stated how he has to take the tests and how "unnatural" it is for somebody to come up from 106 to 154.
Obviously he is not taking you on from a legal point of view but from a common sense one
I wish Floyd was "tasteless" like this more often. People are dumb. When you hear about so many retired fighters struggling financially it's refreshing to see a fellow boxer take care of one of his own.
Bit late to be helping him now...
Its not great etiquette. But thats Floyd, he thinks money is the be-all and end-all of everything.
Depending on the context it could be worse than bad etiquette. If there was no prior communication with the Frazier family before saying this then its downright wrong. Many families want to pay for these things themselves and dont like charity, especially if someone is going to take the credit for it like Floyd has done. But we dont know if this is the case so no point guessing. It is what it is.
Of course he must be feeling better anyway now that hes not drinking his own piss.
I never could get my head around the logic in that. I mean its your piss because your body took all the good out of it and is getting rid of the rest. Why would you think that drinking it again would have any nutritional value?
No doubt he took a lot of punches but the reason he did is how he was affected by the first blows. His legs went stiff and he just stood rigid on the ropes. Froch just threw the lead right hook and landed flush every time.
So yes his chin was good in the fact that he stayed standing for so long but he was just like a zombie when he got buzzed so in that sense his chin was poor
I wish Manny would do a calling out video on youtube or something like Wlad did to Haye and say Ill take the tests, now lets get it on. Surely we would know for sure then if Floyd is ducking
lol, what is up with "marquez should have at least 1 win against pacquiao"
What exactly makes people think he "should" have 1 win, because the way i see it, he "should" have 3 losses, as the judge from the first fight admitted he scored it wrong- that is not debatable, it's a fact.
Your biased scorecards mean nothing, if you had marquez winning any of the 3 pacquiao fights, it just means you dont know how to score properly.
That said, Marquez has not beaten anyone of note in his career. He lost to his biggest rival 3 times. Cotto only lost to the greatest of his era once, and even though he didn't see the final bell he did at least hurt pac a little. Cotto, even as pac's leftover, bloodied floyd's nose whereas marquez got shutout cos floyd was too scared to come forward
They are close, i admit, on the atg scale, but cotto ranks higher.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dQYJ1ZC9Jlw/T6feetl3FDI/AAAAAAAADoE/2dXdxZH8Pig/s1600/pot+calling+kettle.jpg
JMM has 3 wins over Pac in my book, but then again I dont know how to score...
That guy lost it all a few weeks ago when he bet it all on Novak Djokovic over Federer.
lmap it was gonna happen eventually. And you cant really call him 'dead cert man' if he's betting against roger federer! obv thought he was invincible.
It could have gone pear shaped sooner when cleverley got troubled by that "no-hoper" before it was stopped on a nothing cut
Also to the op, imo and a lot of other peoples, DeGale won that fight....you wouldn't be calling your fellow Brits thick then...
well the boxing pundits and press and judges all disagree with you, and most importantly i disagree with you.
It was a close fight, and with odds 3-1 on groves was incredible in a 50 50 fight.
you were a complete idiot to bet on degale, form your own opinions and stop listening to the pr machine...
So because he bet on DeGale he must be listening to other people and not forming his own opinion?! Thats bollocks!
That fight was priced well imo. Fair play to Groves, hee had a gameplan that no-one expected he would use (i.e back up, never throw first in an exchange, counter the counter-puncher) and execute so well. But it was his only shot to win, and even with it he just about won
I was sure they would either tell her to shut up or else dim down whatever mic was beside her. It was annoying as **** trying to watch the fight with that noise.
WOOOOOOOOO. COME ON CARL YOU'VE ****ING GOT HIM
STFU U TART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul will never recover mentally from that kind of KO, don't expect to see him anywhere near the top of the sport again.
Forget about mentally recover, he may not ever physically recover from that.