First off, I'm not saying there is anything untoward going on but I noticed this when watching the fight this morning. Everything they show seems to imply that Ortiz broke his left jaw (they showed a left hook which seemed to be the punch) but the footage on Sky after the fight shows them applying ice to his left jaw. Maybe it was his left jaw that was broken but the whole thing just seems very strange! Thoughts?
Edit: EMbed not working? here link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vge9KA1vRYA&feature=plcp
i'll take it a step further
i'm 100% sure it was that shot
lopez doesnt have a ton of power. he was hitting ortiz flush with everything he had and he wasn't touching his face up
ortiz chin was way out in the air (he usually tucks it well,) and his mouth was open
having an open mouth is what did the damage.
yep, boxing tip 101 for all you kiddies out there, keep your mouth CLOSED when your fighting!
I would like to see the official medical report ... Because it is very difficult to speak post-broken jaw and Ortiz was yapping away during the interview. Also, surgery is required immediately with a broken jaw, because of the potential damage to the inner ear canal and other structures.
There is no doubt, Ortiz sustained some kind of injury, but I am curious just how severe it was.
Yapping away? he could barely talk clearly and was drooling blood. His jaw was crushed to smithereens.
In this image, you can see how the bone comes in and pierces the inner cheek and the blood surrounds the teeth. Looks just like Ortiz' mouth last night as far as where the blood was centered.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3092/2687599920_5eb42b83b9.jpg
that's a brutal injury
are we 100% sure that's ortiz mouth? sure looks like it. beard, good teeth, everything.
that smile isnt going to be what it used to be when he's all patched up
there will be a serious reconstructive and healing process that he needs to go through
he's 25 years old and he's been stopped thrice, two times by guys who have no business beating a guy who is supposed to be a top fighter (and who commands high dollars.)
unless he wants to assume the roll of top flight opponent he's going to have to rethink his boxing career.
i cant see goldenboy investing the money to rebuild him. they'll continue to match him tough and squeeze some more money / fights out of him.
I'm about 99% sure it was that left hook from Lopez that did the real damage. You could see his jaw was in an open position when he took the punch and he had this facial expression that just conveyed pain...it looked brutal. I'd say Ortiz' right jaw was what was destroyed but who knows maybe it was the left and the punch to the right side of his face only exacerbated the existing damage.
i'll take it a step further
i'm 100% sure it was that shot
lopez doesnt have a ton of power. he was hitting ortiz flush with everything he had and he wasn't touching his face up
ortiz chin was way out in the air (he usually tucks it well,) and his mouth was open
having an open mouth is what did the damage.
If you were to observe the video a little better you would see that pic is in a mirror which makes it look like the left side. There is a video here of the whole fight, if you go to the end of the video you will see Ortiz go to his locker room and go in front of the mirror and that's where this pic came from.
Watch the end of this video
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555787&page=22
I'm about 99% sure it was that left hook from Lopez that did the real damage. You could see his jaw was in an open position when he took the punch and he had this facial expression that just conveyed pain...it looked brutal. I'd say Ortiz' right jaw was what was destroyed but who knows maybe it was the left and the punch to the right side of his face only exacerbated the existing damage.
Im almost thinking it was the short right hand right before that left hook. It wasnt a hard shot, but it caught him in an awkward position, and if im not mistaken it looked like his jaw was affecting him right before the hook. The hook certainly didnt help matters tho haha.
Thoughts :lol1: ..... there is no such thing as left or right jaw, There is however a single mandible. :thinking:
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ummm thats where he feels the pain.... :dunno:
First off, I'm not saying there is anything untoward going on but I noticed this when watching the fight this morning. Everything they show seems to imply that Ortiz broke his left jaw (they showed a left hook which seemed to be the punch) but the footage on Sky after the fight shows them applying ice to his left jaw. Maybe it was his left jaw that was broken but the whole thing just seems very strange! Thoughts?
Edit: EMbed not working? here link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vge9KA1vRYA&feature=plcp
If you were to observe the video a little better you would see that pic is in a mirror which makes it look like the left side. There is a video here of the whole fight, if you go to the end of the video you will see Ortiz go to his locker room and go in front of the mirror and that's where this pic came from.
All that blood though, either Ortiz had some teeth knocked out or a bone came in through the inner cheek. I'd like to see a picture of him today..to see how swollen his jaw is, I could see the right jawline swelling in the post fight interview.
I would like to see the official medical report ... Because it is very difficult to speak post-broken jaw and Ortiz was yapping away during the interview. Also, surgery is required immediately with a broken jaw, because of the potential damage to the inner ear canal and other structures.
There is no doubt, Ortiz sustained some kind of injury, but I am curious just how severe it was.
In this image, you can see how the bone comes in and pierces the inner cheek and the blood surrounds the teeth. Looks just like Ortiz' mouth last night as far as where the blood was centered.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3092/2687599920_5eb42b83b9.jpg
Everybody was touching Victor's jaw and it didn't seem to hurt him much.
All that blood though, either Ortiz had some teeth knocked out or a bone came in through the inner cheek. I'd like to see a picture of him today..to see how swollen his jaw is, I could see the right jawline swelling in the post fight interview.
First off, I'm not saying there is anything untoward going on but I noticed this when watching the fight this morning. Everything they show seems to imply that Ortiz broke his left jaw (they showed a left hook which seemed to be the punch) but the footage on Sky after the fight shows them applying ice to his left jaw. Maybe it was his left jaw that was broken but the whole thing just seems very strange! Thoughts?
Edit: EMbed not working? here link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vge9KA1vRYA&feature=plcp
I'm about 99% sure it was that left hook from Lopez that did the real damage. You could see his jaw was in an open position when he took the punch and he had this facial expression that just conveyed pain...it looked brutal. I'd say Ortiz' right jaw was what was destroyed but who knows maybe it was the left and the punch to the right side of his face only exacerbated the existing damage.
Dude go break your jaw and tell me if you don't want ice on both sides of your face...whats next, they only wire one side of your jaw?
With that said, I thought it was comical that he was getting blasted
First off, I'm not saying there is anything untoward going on but I noticed this when watching the fight this morning. Everything they show seems to imply that Ortiz broke his left jaw (they showed a left hook which seemed to be the punch) but the footage on Sky after the fight shows them applying ice to his left jaw. Maybe it was his left jaw that was broken but the whole thing just seems very strange! Thoughts?
Edit: EMbed not working? here link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vge9KA1vRYA&feature=plcp
youre basing too much on implications