Pacquiao/Marquez Post Fight Discussion- Please re-vote in the poll. .

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For those who catches amnesia on purpose :bottle:

Don't worry, I still have it. In the pantheon of disgraceful decisions in the history of boxing this one will go down as one of the most notorious. Juan Manuel Marquez, at the age of 38, has just seen his best performance in the ring to comprehensively out box, out think, out work, and out hustle Manny Pacquiao over 12 rounds stolen from him by three judges who have brought shame to the sport. It was an historic performance. It should have resulted in a unanimous decision in favour of Juan Manuel Marquez. Instead he lost and so did the sport of boxing.,,,, http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=29847&more=1 After 12 rounds of what appeared to many at ringside and nearly all of the crowd of 16,368 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena to be a solid win for Marquez, two ringside judges saw a fight only a businessman or a blind man could have seen. Somehow Judge Glenn Trowbridge scored the bout 116-112 for Pacquiao and Dave Moretti had it 115-113 for the WBO welterweight titleholder. The third, Robert Hoyle, had it a draw 114-114. Meanwhile, a number of ringside observers saw Marquez winning 116-112 and as much as 117-112. When Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, was asked in the ring if he agreed his fighter had beaten Marquez again he waited for a moment before answering. “The fight was close,’’ Roach said. “It was very close.’’ Not really. Not unless you brought a pencil to ringside with you. Later he would say he felt his man pulled it out in the last two rounds while also conceding “it could have gone either way.’’ As endorsements go, it wasn’t exactly a ringing one. What was more telling was an hour later when he said, “It’s the kind of fight I don’t want to do again but we have to. S__t. He’s given us problems three times..... http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...ss-to-pacquiao Pacquaio “Wins,” Marquez is “robbed” and boxing “loses”..... http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...-boxing-loses- The opinions of many within the ringside media and those at the post-fight press conference were somewhat mixed, but the overwhelming majority felt that the legend from Mexico City had been robbed. The general consensus is that Marquez’ counter punching controlled the pace of the contest and that he landed the harder shots. By: Mike Sloan, ringside in Las Vegas. By Round 9, the unfathomable seemed more than possible, and people began to say it out loud: Pacquiao might lose. Pacquiao is losing ~ NYtimes.com Fighthype - Marquez 115 Pacquiao 113 SecondsOut.com - Marquez 116 Pacquiao 113 Amir Khan / Julio Cesar Chavez - Marquez won !! Oscar De La Hoya - Marquez won !! Marvin Hagler "Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!" http://twitter.com/#!/TheMarvelous0ne Bernard Hopkins "FloydMayweather blow thru MannyPacquiao easy!!" http://twitter.com/#!/therealbhop OscarDeLaHoya "I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief. Paquiao cannot compete with a counter puncher like Marquez. Juan has the Patience to wait and capitalize on mistakes. I think this shows how superior mayweather is." http://twitter.com/#!/oscardelahoya Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andredirrell ZAB JUDAH "Robbery!!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/SUPERJUDAH Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#" http://twitter.com/#!/usscunningham Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy" Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/mattmacklin Andre S.O.G. Ward "Well, I was wrong. Marquez is boxing a masterful fight. Marquez won this fight, period!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andreward Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight." Andre Berto "Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank was gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though" Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!" Chris Arreola "Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****." Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard." http://twitter.com/#!/RASHADHOLLOWAY Fernando Vargas "Well I'm DISGUSTED at tonight's event. It's sad that u can TRAIN your butt off for months and get jobbed at the end of the day! Truth is that EVERYWHERE Marquez goes EVERYONE will tell him that he WAS ROBBED & HELL FEEL LIKE HE WON BECUZ HE REALLY DID!!! SAME FOR PACMAN. EVERYWHERE HE GOES PEOPLE WILL TELL HIM HE REALLY LOST AND HE GOT A GIFT!!! LOVE THIS SPORT. But this is a SAD MOMENT FOR ME. #LongLiveDinamitaMarquez" http://twitter.com/#!/_FernandoVargas Juan Diaz "Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges." http://twitter.com/#!/1Babybull Amir Khan "mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds." http://twitter.com/#!/amirkingkhan Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money." http://twitter.com/The_Man_Mundine Erik Morales "Nos robaroooon y feo. Marquez total reconocimiento es el segundo mexicano que le pone en su madre a pacquiao, gano y gano muy bien felicidadees!" Which translates to English as "They robbed us and it was an ugly robbery too. To Marquez total recognition, he is the second Mexican to beat the sh!t out of Pacquiao, he won and he won nicely. Congratulations!" http://twitter.com/terrible100 Jean Pascal "On my card Marquez WON!!!!" http://twitter.com/jeanpascalchamp Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport." http://twitter.com/#!/Kholt456 Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/PrideOfProv Sugar Ray Leonard said Marquez won! Marvin Hagler said Marquez won! Bernard Hopkins said Marquez won! Floyd Mayweather said Marquez won! Oscar De La Hoya said Marquez won Andre Direll said Marquez won! Zab Judah said Marquez won! Steve Cunningham said Marquez won! Anthony Direll said Marquez won! Matthew Macklin said Marquez won! Andre Ward said Marquez won! Terry Norris said Marquez won! Andre Berto said Marquez won! Omar Henry said Marquez won! Chris Arreola said Marquez won! Rashad Holloway said Marquez won! Fernando Vargas said Marquez won! Juan Diaz said Marquez won! Amir Khan said Marquez won! Anthony Mundine said Marquez won! Erik Morales said Marquez won! Jean Pascal said Marquez won! Marco Antonio Barrera said Marquez won! Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. said Marquez won! Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. said Marquez won! Jorge Linares said Marquez won! Peter Manfredo said Marquez won! Michael Marley said Marquez won! Darren Barker said Marquez won! Marcos Maidana said Marquez won! Raul Martinez said Marquez won! J'Leon Love said Marquez won! Lou DiBella said Marquez won! Josesito Lopez said Marquez won! Nazeem Richardson said Marquez won! Sergio Martinez said Marquez won! POW :boxing::boxing:

After this fight, NSB was a ghost town Musta slipped their minds. Why was the thread where all the boxers and celebs saying JMM won deleted? Don't worry, I still have it. In the pantheon of disgraceful decisions in the history of boxing this one will go down as one of the most notorious. Juan Manuel Marquez, at the age of 38, has just seen his best performance in the ring to comprehensively out box, out think, out work, and out hustle Manny Pacquiao over 12 rounds stolen from him by three judges who have brought shame to the sport. It was an historic performance. It should have resulted in a unanimous decision in favour of Juan Manuel Marquez. Instead he lost and so did the sport of boxing.,,,, http://www.********boxing.com/news.php?p=29847&more=1 After 12 rounds of what appeared to many at ringside and nearly all of the crowd of 16,368 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena to be a solid win for Marquez, two ringside judges saw a fight only a businessman or a blind man could have seen. Somehow Judge Glenn Trowbridge scored the bout 116-112 for Pacquiao and Dave Moretti had it 115-113 for the WBO welterweight titleholder. The third, Robert Hoyle, had it a draw 114-114. Meanwhile, a number of ringside observers saw Marquez winning 116-112 and as much as 117-112. When Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, was asked in the ring if he agreed his fighter had beaten Marquez again he waited for a moment before answering. “The fight was close,’’ Roach said. “It was very close.’’ Not really. Not unless you brought a pencil to ringside with you. Later he would say he felt his man pulled it out in the last two rounds while also conceding “it could have gone either way.’’ As endorsements go, it wasn’t exactly a ringing one. What was more telling was an hour later when he said, “It’s the kind of fight I don’t want to do again but we have to. S__t. He’s given us problems three times..... http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...ss-to-pacquiao Pacquaio “Wins,” Marquez is “robbed” and boxing “loses”..... http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...-boxing-loses- The opinions of many within the ringside media and those at the post-fight press conference were somewhat mixed, but the overwhelming majority felt that the legend from Mexico City had been robbed. The general consensus is that Marquez’ counter punching controlled the pace of the contest and that he landed the harder shots. By: Mike Sloan, ringside in Las Vegas. By Round 9, the unfathomable seemed more than possible, and people began to say it out loud: Pacquiao might lose. Pacquiao is losing ~ NYtimes.com Fighthype - Marquez 115 Pacquiao 113 SecondsOut.com - Marquez 116 Pacquiao 113 Amir Khan / Julio Cesar Chavez - Marquez won !! Oscar De La Hoya - Marquez won !! Marvin Hagler "Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!" http://twitter.com/#!/TheMarvelous0ne Bernard Hopkins "FloydMayweather blow thru MannyPacquiao easy!!" http://twitter.com/#!/therealbhop OscarDeLaHoya "I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief. Paquiao cannot compete with a counter puncher like Marquez. Juan has the Patience to wait and capitalize on mistakes. I think this shows how superior mayweather is." http://twitter.com/#!/oscardelahoya Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andredirrell ZAB JUDAH "Robbery!!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/SUPERJUDAH Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#" http://twitter.com/#!/usscunningham Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy" Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/mattmacklin Andre S.O.G. Ward "Well, I was wrong. Marquez is boxing a masterful fight. Marquez won this fight, period!!" http://twitter.com/#!/andreward Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight." Andre Berto "Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank was gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though" Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!" Chris Arreola "Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****." Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard." http://twitter.com/#!/RASHADHOLLOWAY Fernando Vargas "Well I'm DISGUSTED at tonight's event. It's sad that u can TRAIN your butt off for months and get jobbed at the end of the day! Truth is that EVERYWHERE Marquez goes EVERYONE will tell him that he WAS ROBBED & HELL FEEL LIKE HE WON BECUZ HE REALLY DID!!! SAME FOR PACMAN. EVERYWHERE HE GOES PEOPLE WILL TELL HIM HE REALLY LOST AND HE GOT A GIFT!!! LOVE THIS SPORT. But this is a SAD MOMENT FOR ME. #LongLiveDinamitaMarquez" http://twitter.com/#!/_FernandoVargas Juan Diaz "Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges." http://twitter.com/#!/1Babybull Amir Khan "mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds." http://twitter.com/#!/amirkingkhan Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money." http://twitter.com/The_Man_Mundine Erik Morales "Nos robaroooon y feo. Marquez total reconocimiento es el segundo mexicano que le pone en su madre a pacquiao, gano y gano muy bien felicidadees!" Which translates to English as "They robbed us and it was an ugly robbery too. To Marquez total recognition, he is the second Mexican to beat the sh!t out of Pacquiao, he won and he won nicely. Congratulations!" http://twitter.com/terrible100 Jean Pascal "On my card Marquez WON!!!!" http://twitter.com/jeanpascalchamp Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport." http://twitter.com/#!/Kholt456 Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!" http://twitter.com/#!/PrideOfProv Sugar Ray Leonard said Marquez won! Marvin Hagler said Marquez won! Bernard Hopkins said Marquez won! Floyd Mayweather said Marquez won! Oscar De La Hoya said Marquez won Andre Direll said Marquez won! Zab Judah said Marquez won! Steve Cunningham said Marquez won! Anthony Direll said Marquez won! Matthew Macklin said Marquez won! Andre Ward said Marquez won! Terry Norris said Marquez won! Andre Berto said Marquez won! Omar Henry said Marquez won! Chris Arreola said Marquez won! Rashad Holloway said Marquez won! Fernando Vargas said Marquez won! Juan Diaz said Marquez won! Amir Khan said Marquez won! Anthony Mundine said Marquez won! Erik Morales said Marquez won! Jean Pascal said Marquez won! Marco Antonio Barrera said Marquez won! Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. said Marquez won! Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. said Marquez won! Jorge Linares said Marquez won! Peter Manfredo said Marquez won! Michael Marley said Marquez won! Darren Barker said Marquez won! Marcos Maidana said Marquez won! Raul Martinez said Marquez won! J'Leon Love said Marquez won! Lou DiBella said Marquez won! Josesito Lopez said Marquez won! Nazeem Richardson said Marquez won! Sergio Martinez said Marquez won!

After this fight, NSB was a ghost town Musta slipped their minds. Why was the thread where all the boxers and celebs saying JMM won deleted?

LOL They changed this from professional boxers who said Pac lost to official vote thread lmao They also deleted the bob arum thread where he clearly said he dont want to fight cause hes focused on manny becoming the president and if he lose thats it FAIL

im still flabbergasted on how someone can call this fight a robbery.

do you mean these pics? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VahHnP06xik/Tt5FJ0AE6GI/AAAAAAAABTk/fSxedq6rif8/s1600/iwonthefight.jpg http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/375917_276357695739107_193049230736621_778320_1218811305_n.jpg Yes That its.

Oh Jesus. They really don't know anything besides Pacquiao....A little sad in a way. Very sad and depressing at the same time.

Nice, this poll reflects the people of the world appreciation of the fight.

Flomos and some Marquez cry baby fans, they don't score those punches they can't see landed on Marquez while all they need to do is to see Marquez face compare to Pacquiao face after the fight. do you mean these pics? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VahHnP06xik/Tt5FJ0AE6GI/AAAAAAAABTk/fSxedq6rif8/s1600/iwonthefight.jpg http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/375917_276357695739107_193049230736621_778320_1218811305_n.jpg

I had pac 116-112. Thank god that the judges are very good at their job they see what most of the people can't see without replaying it in slowmo. Flomos and some Marquez cry baby fans, they don't score those punches they can't see landed on Marquez while all they need to do is to see Marquez face compare to Pacquiao face after the fight.

I had pac 116-112. Thank god that the judges are very good at their job they see what most of the people can't see without replaying it in slowmo. Oh Jesus. They really don't know anything besides Pacquiao....A little sad in a way.

I had pac 116-112. Thank god that the judges are very good at their job they see what most of the people can't see without replaying it in slowmo.

2 and 12 are rounds i can see ppl giving to either fighter. I gave that 12th round to Pac, and I had the fight 116-112 for JMM. Anyhow, JMM got robbed.

I had it 115-113 for manny during the actual fight but when I watched it again, I turned pactard and as you have branded a retarded score hehe, I have to watch it again and remove pac's n_ts on my eyeglasses ... lolz 2 and 12 are rounds i can see ppl giving to either fighter. i assum u gave em to pac.

wat was yourscore card. I had it 115-113 for manny during the actual fight but when I watched it again, I turned pactard and as you have branded a retarded score hehe, I have to watch it again and remove pac's n_ts on my eyeglasses ... lolz

sorry that wasnt fair i dont know you well enough to make that assumption. i have had many dealings with pinoy alt redk attacks and i generalized. anyways you seem fair and i retract that post. thank you and you as well seem to be a good and respectable poster .... just a tip bro, with my fellow pinoys we hate it when we are generalized and usually we fire back when hurt and we stick together ...

lolz at first i thought anyone scoring 116-112 eitherway was retarded, and would still say they are retarded if they think it was an easy fight to score and the one that they have winning was the one true winner .... I may be a PACFAN and may have biases for Manny but I also know the fight was close jsut like the first two of their fights .... wat was yourscore card.

when i rewatched it i had it a draw. i think its fair to say mannys activity kept him in and in some eyes may have been enough to give it to him. but like i said 115-113 at the most. and vice versa for juan manuel. It was a close fight and to be real imho anyone can watch it several time and have different outcomes each time, specially if your not like me who have biases on the fight, I will almost always give my fighter the benefit of the doubt ....