Both times I though Pacman won but then I looked at my scorecard and Marquez won twice.
So i have it 2-0 Marquez i think i had it by 2 points each time I needa check again.
Anyways it doesn't matter because no matter what we think the official socres are a draw and a Pac Man win. I think a third fight should happen but it would be bad buisness choice for Pacman.
Berto HAS to go to the body against clottey. If he doesn't he will be wiped out. His speed is better but Clottey is too tough for Berto imo. Berto is open for those left hooks to the head and body, and I think a Clottey uppercut might finish the fight. I dunno if I'm seeing things, but it seems to me that Berto is open for an uppercut. Another problem is Bertos chin, which is not very good. If used his jab well and goes to the body, he could set up the big stuff up stairs. But Clottey would pick off his shots and counter with left hooks and uppercuts. Then in the middle rounds he would come forward, and pound away with lead hooks to the body and head. I think Berto would not know how to deal with phsyical and mental pressure Clottey would apply by not backing up. I also think Berto might be frustrated with the experience of clottey aka: the head butts and low blows...ect. In the end, I think Berto had to work on his defense, consitently go to the jab to set up his shots ( and go to the body), not get discouraged that he's getting hit to come away with a win. I don't think he is ready for that. Clottey would pound away and win by some sort of knockout in the 9-11 round area.
His greatest win was over James Toney. You're talking about a GREAT GREAT super middle weihgt, one of the best ever, and than jones steps in and OUTCLASSES him. Shit is impressive.
Yea of you can make 143 you can make 140. I think Judah should go down. He would probably be able to unify the division, and set up some big money fights.
Nah its a bullshit fight that i wouldnt pay a fuckin dime for, and its a disgrace to the fans by De La Hoya, but Pacman should take the HUGE 70-30 payday and run. Take that fuckin money, its about time for Manny to cash in.
I think floyd is too much for Arquello to handle. His jab to the body would set up the left hook to the head, and floyd could punch hard at that weight. Down goes Arguello.
Pretty much how I feel. I love his fights (Corrales vs him was so awesome), but he's cocky as shit.
I need to go back and watch the DLH vs PBF fight though. At the time I had DLH winning, though I wasn't keeping a scorecard. If I was, I probably go back and rewatch it, it'll probably be given to PBF. And when I did have DLH winning it was pretty close. 115-113I would say, though I wasn't really keeping score. So yeah, looking back I could probably see PBF winning.
Turn the volume off...
The crowd goes crazy when dlh throws some punches but they don't land.
Williams is being overhyped imo. He fought a good fight, but he showed alot of holes. People are already calling him the most feared boxer in the sport.
Williams leaves himself to open for Cintron. Margo couldn;t hit him very flush more often because he is very slow and his punches are too wide. Cintron throws a fast THUNDERING right hand, which i think would put Paul right down on his ass.
I'm a big williams fan though. He needs to develop a little more power.
If you think DLH won the fight i'm never listening to anything you say ever again.
He's an amazing offensive fighter at 130, 135. Many of his fights down there were exciting.
At 147, his fight against Baldomir really gave him a bad reputation.
I really enjoyed the Judah and Gatti fights.
I've been wathing him alot recently ( His Chavez fight is great), and call me a " nuthuger" but you have to appreciate his skills or you don't know boxing.
However is outta the ring antics piss me the fuck off. All that Gunit gangsta shit. He grew up rich.
He is an asshole, but an asshole who is a great fighter.
I think Guzman will break out!
THe dude can really box.
I think imma gonna buy the ppv though.
Vargas Mayorga could be fireworks, and the undercard is great.
Cintron vs ?
Collazo vs Mitchell
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l'll tape this fight.
I'm so excited for this, i'm prediciting that it ends up being the foty.
I'm one of the few on this site that thinks Vazquez will win. In the last fight, he was LANDING bombs in the last round before he went no mas because of the nose. I predict the same kind of fight... marquez will win early on, but then Vazquez will blast him away rounds 10-12.
Vazquez KO/TKO 11.
You really shouldnt be calling people idiots if you're gonna use incorrect grammer and spell like that.
well played...
I just dont see why people would pay when there is a better fight for free.
You know what, i've been very down on Cotto's chances to win this fight, but I'm starting to think he might be able too...
He handled Judah's speed ( it took him a round or two (( full of body shots)) to adjust, but he eventually did) and I just don't think a guy of Mosley's age can handle those body shots for 12 rounds. Sure Mosley is gonna win some rounds big, and I think he will be ahead on points at the time those left hooks catch up to him, but I'd predict a Cotto knockout in the 10th round. I honestly can't see a guy with as many fights as Mosley, and years, wearing on his body withstand Cotto's brutal body.
Cotto Tko 10.
Marquez was outsklled and outslugged. He was fighting leaning back on his ankles. Thats why he lost the fight. Not cause the ref stopped it it a little early. He was fighting on his heels, and hooking with a hooker. Also Vazquez shored his defense up, Marquez didn't. Vazquez made the improvments needed to win the fight, the ref didn;t give him shit, he worked hard and it payed off.
Wow so many ignorant ass kids in this Forum. Who here was alive and knew the sport of boxing when JCC was dominating everyone he fought up until he turned 40?
It doesn't matter if you were alive, if you've seen every fight of his it doesn't matter. He's an ATG who recieved many gifts from the judges ( and the ref.) Taylor did respond to Steele, and he got up at the count of 5 with two seconds left, and the figh was stopped. And he got totaly outboxed by Sweet Pea, but got the draw...
Great fighter, but agreat fighter who is overrated. And don't bring up the age shit, thats what people do when they can't figure out how to respond to an intelligent.
These ignorat ass kids have probably seen more of his fights than you have.