Froch stopping Kessler will change things. it will make that arguable decision an irrelevancy.
Yes... My post was adressed to you... Thanks for pointing that out...
A fight with DeGale would be much more profitable in the U.K. Who cares about Kessler at this point.
5 million danes!!! He is a ****ing rockstar here!!! Lots of ppv money to share!!
entering the last round "you've gotta stop him!" -calzaghe's trainer
post fight "i beat the shi-t out of hopkins!" -calzaghe
why is calzaghe trying to insult our intelligence? does he know we saw the fight?
He was fighting on foreign soil... You never know what to expect if it goes to the cards...
But yeah Calzaghe beat the **** out of Hopkins... Watching that fight still makes me smile :rofl:
My post was about ranking I'm afraid. Not about who's best. IMO the best SMW in the world is Andre Ward.
:rofl: at your p4p list.
1: How can Ward be A- based on him beating 2 C fighters?
2: How can Dirrell be B+ when he lost to a C-level fighter?
3: How can AA be B- when he hasn't beaten anybody? Don't give me Taylor because Froch, who's C-level, KO'ed Taylor in his hometown.
4: Who has Green beat to warrant a ranking at the level of Froch and Kessler?
Epic fail.
It's Louis the bold for crying out loud.... He's a f****** disaster :crucified
So you have no problem with Ward employing Conte?
Don't bother... Roy Jones JR is also considered top 10 ATG in America even though he's a cheat... America is almost like the old eastern germany...:banana:
Who do you think, and why?
I think Kessler will take over the SMW division. Taylor and Froch present the toughest challenge at the moment... Dirrell in a couple of years would be a challenge too.
Man it's so sad to see that waste of talent. I don't think he'll get the bigger names.
About Froch, I think he could beat everyone else besides Taylor, but I wouldn't bet on this one. Kessler would murder him.
Its crazy when the man who the majority recognize as the number 1 SMW isn't able to prove it... Cmon make them fights!!!
i still don't understand why people pick kessler... he's hasn't even beaten 1 great fighter yet... all his wins were over average fighters yet some of you want to put him over fighters who have unified divisions, fought better competition etc
I thought the question was "Who is your favourite euro fighter"??? Whats your point?
Would it be fair to say Hopkins nearly beat him when Kessler didnt come close , would it be fair to assume that if a lightweight can go the distance with Kessler and that Kessler hasnt really knocked out that much the biggest name Beyer who Danny Green had out of there that he is gunna just KO Pavlik , I dont think so , Kelly has a hammer in either hand and Mikkel has lots of trouble with pressure thats a bad mix for Kessler , he likes to sail along on the front foot at range some how I dont see him sailing alone with Pavlik in front of him Kelly aint no Sartisan or Andrade , Kesslers biggest advantage over Pavlik is size he is a division above him , if they were both middles I think Pavlik would shake rattle and roll him to his boots inside 8 rounds , at the bigger weight its a closer fight that Pavlik will still get because he is a real fighter with a fighters heart and thats the area Mikkel is suspect .
Maybe Hopkins came closer to beating Calz on the scorecards, but Hopkins clearly felt his KD in the first would be sufficient to win the fight. After that he did everything he could to spoil the rest of the fight... In my opinion Calzaghes win against Hopkins was just as wide as his win against Kessler. Only different was that Kessler actually tried to get a KO. I never said I thought Kessler would KO Pavlik??? And who has Pavlik KOed Taylor with his suspect chin and Miranda who leaves himself open to anything thrown at him.
I agree that Pavliks high workrate could be trouble for Kessler and I personally see this as a very good and close fight that could go either way.
What has Kessler done to earn a shot at Pavlik?? Beating Mundine or losing to Calzaghe which one is it??
I think the Kessler/Pavlik bout should be made if Pavlik moves to SMW... Dont think Mikkel needs to earn a shot at Pavlik at SMW.
The Calzaghe/Hopkins fight showed us that even though Hopkins still got a brilliant boxing brain hes just too old... If Pavlik wins a UD against Hopkins, which is a very possible outcome, I dont think it proves anything... Joe didnt get any credit for beating popkins, right?
I would personally give Pavlik much more credit for taking a fight with a prime Kessler...
Kessler won't fight Pavlik though.
After Kessler demolish Häussler I see no reason for him not wanting to fight Pavlik... Good payday, good chance of winning = Lets get rdy to rumble...
hopkins gave calzaghe a tougher fight, so by your logic pavlik should beat hopkins to get to calzaghe?
Hopkins - Calzaghe was a useless boring fight... Hopkins hugged his way through the last 8 rounds... BORING. Im my opinion the Kessler - Calzaghe fight was a much better fight and clealy the fight Calzaghe should regard as his best performance.
To say Hopkins put on a better performance then Kessler is just lame. LMAO
If Kessler wont find Miranda, I don’t think he would want to fight Miranda’s daddy either
Why not... If Kessler ducked Miranda it can only be because the risk was to high and the reward wasnt big enough... Pavlik on the other hand would produce a reward worth persuing.
Personlly I dont think Kessler "ducked" Miranda... But thats another discussion.
Taylor's been down once in his entire career and he's got a suspect chin? Ok. :ugh:
Suspect chin is maybe exagerating a bit but...
He was Rocked by the old defensive Hopkins and Pavlik is the only fighter with a decent KO-Rating Taylor has ever faced. All Taylors big fights have been against good defensive fighters.
It is obvious that Taylor likes to outpoint his oponents from the distance, problem with Pavlik was that he kept on walking forward putting on the pressure and Taylor had problems answering this.
Now Taylor has been down once and Im sure he will hit the canvas again soon if he steps up at SMW.
After the fight Kessler (who was present) stated that he was surprised with the outcome. He thought Taylor was clearly the better fighter and deserved the win.
In my opinion Taylor was the better fighter and Pavliks workrate was the only thing making this fight a close call. Its Pavliks workrate (lots of connecting jabs) vs. less workrate but much better and cleaner shots from Taylor. This could have gone both ways I think.
Kessler doesn't deserve anything and has never proved anything in his career and has fought exclusively in Europe against those patsies. Kessler is Euro soft with paper skin and vastly overrated. Kessie would be a sparring partner in the states.
Joke of the day... What a disrespectful piece of ****...