I didn't see this posted... It sounds crazy, but Virgil Hunter supports his points strongly. (so don't respond after just reading the title...) Dre would really have to fill into that weight (I don't think he could get to 215 anyways)
Virgil Hunter seems to know his stuff. I just don't think Andre Ward could be heavy weight champ though. I could see him beating Haye maybe... but a real heavyweight like Chris Arreola would murder him.
Article posted below.
I think he'll fill out at light heavy, maybe grow into a smallish cruiserweight, I don't really think he'll become a heavyweight.
Agreed. I think he's going to have difficulty making super middle in the coming months, actually. He looks like he gains quite a bit from the weigh-in to fight night and I thought he looked very solid at 171 a couple fights ago. He fought at LHW in the Olympics as well. It'll be interesting to see how he looks when he's sucking himself down at the end of this tourney.
don't be retarded, he looks like a boy at SMW, and he doesn't hit hard at SMW at all, and his chin sucks. Yet you think he can gain extra 40+ lbs suddenly make HW in 7 years? You are out of your mind.
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Men dont fully develop muscle maturity until late 20s...26,27,28.... and some Men do have the genetics to still be growing vertically until that time also... depends on the person & their genes. Look towards your father and grandfathers to see how you willl develop.
I do agree Andre most likely wont be a HW. Though he is 6'1 his frame isnt that big to compete with the super hw's imo.
don't be retarded, he looks like a boy at SMW, and he doesn't hit hard at SMW at all, and his chin sucks. Yet you think he can gain an extra 40+ lbs and suddenly make HW in 7 years? You are out of your mind.
F**king ridiculous, his chin wouldn't stand up any of the top heavies. He would look like the freaking marshmallow man if he moved up to heavyweight. Ward wouldn't even beat Cunningham at cruiserweight or Dawson at LHW, let alone beating any of the top contenders at HW.
Eddie Chambers is considered a small heavyweight, and Ward is much smaller than Chambers. His power wouldn't carry to HW, he probably can't even make 200lbs, he would lose a tremendous amount of speed which is his strength. Some people really need to use common sense.
well least we forget....adamek got outboxed by Dawson not too long ago. I also feel ward is a better fighter that could not only do what Chad did but in better fashion against adamek.
Cunningham would give Dawson and Ward hell.
say...
are u tunney v2?
1) No, retard
2) what i said is untrue? Ward could bulk up and have the strength, punch, & chin to compete with Boytsov? clown
well least we forget....adamek got outboxed by Dawson not too long ago. I also feel ward is a better fighter that could not only do what Chad did but in better fashion against adamek.
And being weight drained wasn't an issue? I understand where you're coming from but look at the Cunningham fight to some extent as an example.
I really don't think Adamek would struggle with boxers & or slick fighters like people claim due to his performance vs Dawson.
And in terms of Ward vs Adamek lol Adamek is alot bigger than Ward could get, stonger than Ward could ever be, and his chin & punch are light years better from an innate sense. Even if that wasn't the case i don't see a style problem like i mentioned.
But if you want to grasp onto Ward as your American Heavyweight hope by all means go ahead :biggthump
yup, even a "small" heavyweight like Boytsov, Povetkin or even Adamak would break him in half.
well least we forget....adamek got outboxed by Dawson not too long ago. I also feel ward is a better fighter that could not only do what Chad did but in better fashion against adamek.
I didn't see this posted... It sounds crazy, but Virgil Hunter supports his points strongly. (so don't respond after just reading the title...) Dre would really have to fill into that weight (I don't think he could get to 215 anyways)
Virgil Hunter seems to know his stuff. I just don't think Andre Ward could be heavy weight champ though. I could see him beating Haye maybe... but a real heavyweight like Chris Arreola would murder him.
Article posted below.
Wow we could have the most horrible HW fight of all time, Wlad vs Ward we will see who has the supreme holding skills. :lol1:
Only thing that won't happen is Ward growing 1-2 inches in height...good god, he's 25 already...Mr. Hunter, didn't you attend Biology?
Probably not. Rather his knowledge is in medicine and drugs. Given Wards heavy reliance in BALCO CEO Victor Conte I'd say anything is possible. Conte was always a step ahead.
Men dont fully develop muscle maturity until late 20s...26,27,28.... and some Men do have the genetics to still be growing vertically until that time also... depends on the person & their genes. Look towards your father and grandfathers to see how you willl develop.
I do agree Andre most likely wont be a HW. Though he is 6'1 his frame isnt that big to compete with the super hw's imo.
Nah, this guy in the article is nuts, Ward has a medium build and is well suited for 168.......HW, :lol1:
yeah, he'd look tiny in the ring with even a small hw
he doesnt have the body to put on that much weight and be effective.
Joe Louis was great because every other heavyweight was around his size.
the heavyweight has way too many super heavy's that reign so anyone who wasnt a natural cruiser will have a hard time putting on the pounds to stay competitive.
but maybe ward will pull a RJJ and move to heavyweight to fight a lesser heavyweight champ.
nothing wrong with that but he would never ever EVER beat a Klitschko or anyone else over 230
yup, even a "small" heavyweight like Boytsov, Povetkin or even Adamak would break him in half.
He reminds me a bit of Holyfield, the way he leads with his deliberate headbutts.
lol don't forget B-Hop
Anyways that article is absurd. It is sad that a few will actually buy this on account of how desperate the U.S. is for a heavyweight.
1st about Ward as a heavy. He has no power at 168, what the **** could he do at heavy. Even someone like cunningham who's a legit CW and at least naturally 205ish, probably bigger, moving up would be too much. He doesn't have much pop at CW, heavyweight would be suicide and Ward is a 168lb version. Give me a break.
His trainer said "No doubt Ward is stronger than Kessler"
In terms on punching power hell no lol Anyone who would even try to dispute that is delusional.
And in terms of general strength, what they can put up when lifting, i very much doubt that Ward is physically stronger than Kessler.
He "outmuscled" him on the inside when they fought but that doesn't translate to meaning that he's literally stronger. It's technique and experience when it comes to that sort of thing and Kessler is terrible at it.
In terms of getting rough in close Ward would have a handful with Abraham & Froch. This guy should focus on being sucessful at 168 which is no guarantee.
Heavyweight lol
He reminds me a bit of Holyfield, the way he leads with his deliberate headbutts.
andre ward is half white.. just thought that would make u feel better, u know since your a racist bastard and he kicked kesslers ass.