Going the distance is a win because of the mismatch nature of the fight. Heck, even not going the distance but hurting GGG is a win.
But yep, I think Brook wins the fight itself too. Dude's going to wrap up GGG all night. And when Brook lands because of his exceptional timing, it's going to be felt.
If it's in jeopardy it's because Brook's being proposed some step-aside money.
He has to decide what means more to him. The money or the title shot. Because if Mayweather takes the title off Porter, there's no way Mayweather-Brook will ever be made.
Brook's trained like a mad man for the last 3 months. And it shows.
The disrespect he's getting from Porter's camp (constantly talking about future opponents) and from some fans is disgusting.
Take all of that Brook and use it to beat the cr @p out of this guy.
Noone is 100 percent when they fight, alot of fighters deal with injuries, if martinez was so injured he shouldnt of got in there....he was still the heavy favourate going in to the fight and cotto shocked the world and made history, deal with it!
That's why he didn't use his knee as an excuse. He chose to fight so he took responsibility for the loss.
His knee was still an issue though. No one knows how recovered a knee is until it has to support your body weight while your body contorts at strange angles, which is what happens when a hook lands.
It didn't hold up, but Martinez recognised it's not an excuse. He's a champion in every sense of the word.
I'm only telling you what I said. He usually moves so much more fluidly than he did last night.....from the first bell. He usually dips and drops but he couldn't even bend his knee. There was nothing on his punches because he couldn't spring.
Denial.
I have to agree.
He also failed to follow through with his lead left the entire fight (obviously because of the pressure it would place on his right knee).
If it wasn't his knee that was in trouble, and he knew he needed to hurt/KO Cotto at some point, why didn't he follow through? At least just once?
The irony of this whole saga is that Pac, who for years has had this cloud hanging over him, seems to have complied with everything required.
Floyd, who instigated the accusations, is in fact the one who was caught using suspect methods.
I sincerely hope this is his last fight. Get out of the sport before you tarnish it further with your doping.
The guy was masking PEDs.
Seriously, why else would you do that crap at home (a good place to keep it a secret), especially when illegal substances have hovered over the making of this fight for years.
He was caught and his wins are tarnished.
USADA said he didn't cheat, NSAC said he didn't cheat. I'll take their word for it over the word of a retard like you.
Retrospective consent means he now hasn't broken the rules.
But that's different from whether he doped (i.e. what he was likely hiding by IVing the solution).
You don't need to be a knockout monster to KO Pacquiao.
I don't think Floyd is going to commit himself. So it will take the perfect hook or uppercut while Pac moves in. And that Pac's chin can't hold up anymore.
It's unlikely to happen, but stranger things have happened.
I'd give it a D.
The commentary was awful, about as bad as it can get. I lost count the number of times they misread the fights. Thurman-Guerrero was ok, but it would have been ok on any channel.
If Floyd beats Pac convincingly, he'll probably fight Khan (so long as he beats Algieri).
A Floyd-Khan fight was seriously considered in the lead up to Maidana. Khan having a few wins between now and that time won't have damaged his chances.
Peterson did little in the first half.
He may have been juicing, but that inactivity put him in good stead to see out the fight, regardless of PEDs.
Similarly Garcia fought a bad fight, entirely down to Peterson's lateral movement.
There aren't 'lateral movement PEDs' knocking about. That's a conscious way to fight, through work in the gym to build up that intelligence and also instinct to move in that way.
He may have been juicing, but what impressed me the most can't be PED'd into you.
I defended Brook as much as I could, from the prediction threads to the threads that said the fight was in doubt (where everyone piled in and called Brook a ducker).
If only there was some browser add-on that keeps track of how wrong the posters of NSB are all the time.
I wanted this fight after Pac-Cotto, Floyd-JMM, but it's too late now.
All of the impetus has gone. Both are fading, both don't have their hearts truly in the sport any longer, Pac's been KO'd. It would only be about a big pay day now for both of them.
Only a few people seem to realise how boring this fight is going to be. You'll get the odd round of excitement but that's it. I hope the undercard's solid.
If Joshua went 12 with that physique I'd agree.
But the guy would gas and gas hard. Because he's not training for 12 round fights. As soon as he has to, that physique will change a lot.
it's not PEDs, it's the muscle building regime he's on.
Because clearly he is also injecting high doses of test right into his blood stream, but for what? Doesn't do any good if he isn't fighting anyone.
Because if you used your brain for a moment, you would realise the pictures of him with back acne date from when he was fighting.
He gets drug tested and loses convincingly against Bradley.
He doesn't get drug tested, shows up with PED abuse symptoms over his chest, and wins convincingly to Alvarado.
It's quite simple.
He was still accused of it even when tested.
Look at the training photos threads before the Bradley fight and everyone was saying the same thing- those veins, those muscles etc. They must be PEDs!
Then when he fights and loses everyone goes quiet.
For some reason, pictures are a better indicator than performance in the ring. You would have thought PEDs mean you look at the performance as your guide.
And from what I've seen, nothing tells me he's using PEDs.
What's going to be funny will be the embarrassment on their faces getting beaten to death with the pillows they'll force on Maidana. There will be a war in Vegas tonight baby!!! We are coming to kill this ******!!!! I could care less about his health or life tonight seriously. I want to see a savage medieval type of beatdown.
i wish there would be a war. believe me i wish it more than you.
but maidana's stamina isn't elite. and floyd's going to make him do a lot of moving. unfortunately this is likely to be a bore fest
could you imagine if maidana pulled this sort of stuff?
refusing to fight because the commission approved all that sh it mayweather injects into his hands.
or because he didnt like the gloves mayweather was wearing?
There was also no reaction when the 114-114 scorecard was read out.
He wasn't upset, angry, confused, etc. He knew it had been a close fight.
And watching it back, he saw that in the third person.
Ok, the poll's now live.
Was Floyd exposed as not being the tactical genius he was meant to be, by not being able to follow Alexander's blueprint?
Can Alexander execute the perfect plan again to give Floyd his first official loss?
I say no to both.
But it's become interesting because according to Floyd both answers are yes and Alexander is tearing into him because of it.
he should leave boxing purely because of how creepy he is.
he's got no charisma and when he talks he's just creepy as f*ck. everyone's always silent afterwards when he does a conference so it's not only me seeing this.
After the Maidana fight, I really think Porter could finish off Floyd.
It would need the right referee who would penalise Floyd for clinching, or let Porter fight on with a free arm.
And if so, Porter being two weight divisions higher on fight night would terrorise Floyd, especially as Floyd wouldn't have power that Porter would respect.
if I'm Floyd, would I really want to be facing that in the last fights of my career? Probably not.
http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2014/04/mayweather-im-going-toe-to-toe-with-maidana-on-saturday/
"Saturday night you're not going to see the same Floyd may weather. I'll be right there going toe to toe"
He was on the ropes allowing Maidana to tee-off in the hope Maidana would tire himself out.
To a good extent it worked.
Let's not pretend that if Maidana had elite stamina to go 15 rounds Floyd would have fought that fight. Instead he would have done in the earlier rounds what he did in the latter.