So, was he juicing? He's already been caught but nothing much happened to him so I don't see why his positive results be hidden or simply destroyed. American sport is rife with this ****. I have never seen Peterson fight with the type of energy he had last night, he was moving better than when he was 25. I've seen almost all of Peterson's fight and that stamina was unreal. Something not quite right here. Any thoughts?
That's how he always looks. He was probably motivated to make a good impression on the stage, but otherwise that was the same Peterson as always.
Watch more Pederson fights then come back and say that again.
PEDerson usually looks ripped, but he dwarfed Danny last night, I was not expecting him to be that big.
Same here, DG is a strong, bullish sort of guy circa 140 but Pederson looked a weight division higher, even the Brit commentators seemed surprised.
Peterson did little in the first half.
He may have been juicing, but that inactivity put him in good stead to see out the fight, regardless of PEDs.
Similarly Garcia fought a bad fight, entirely down to Peterson's lateral movement.
There aren't 'lateral movement PEDs' knocking about. That's a conscious way to fight, through work in the gym to build up that intelligence and also instinct to move in that way.
He may have been juicing, but what impressed me the most can't be PED'd into you.
Don't be stupid, you know there are PEDs out there, been around for decades, that increase stamina. That's what we say last night. Pederson has often been in trouble in the middle or late rounds but here he looked fresh as a daisy.
Peterson took Danny's shots extremely well
Lol at people defending this cheat
He also lost the fight
Was 6-1 down after 7
Ended up 7-5 Danny on my scorecard
Excellent scoring that fight
I had it 2-2 after the first 4 and then eventually 5-2 to DG but in all honesty, Pederson dominated those later rounds. I had it 7-5 in the end.
Of course Peterson is juicing but he only looked so strong last night because his opponent was clearly weight drained.
I dunno if DG is weight drained at 143, u trolling? lol
So, was he juicing? He's already been caught but nothing much happened to him so I don't see why his positive results be hidden or simply destroyed. American sport is rife with this ****. I have never seen Peterson fight with the type of energy he had last night, he was moving better than when he was 25. I've seen almost all of Peterson's fight and that stamina was unreal. Something not quite right here. Any thoughts?
Of course Peterson is juicing but he only looked so strong last night because his opponent was clearly weight drained.
people are predictably overrated PEDerson now. Any top boxer can look good against a no-defense stationary, telegraph-punching fighter like Garcia. Even faded boxers Morales and Judah had their moments
PEDerson is atleast in his prime and doesnt own a glass jaw. Whatever **** he was one wasnt needed for tonight
Peterson took Danny's shots extremely well
Lol at people defending this cheat
He also lost the fight
Was 6-1 down after 7
Ended up 7-5 Danny on my scorecard
Excellent scoring that fight
He's been caught once so we should be highly suspicious of him every time he steps into the ring
He still defends himself
He point blank cheated
Here's what an expert doctor had to say about Pederson
Boxing Insider: So Andre Berto. He tests positive for Norandosterone, and it was reported that the ultra trace amounts that Berto tested positive for is consistent with contamination, rather than intention. How would something be contaminated, and what supplements would he be taking?
Dr. Ronald Kamm: You know what? Interestingly, both Peterson and Berto were the ones suggesting it (random testing)! There’s a lot of denial when you’re abusing either drugs or steroids. You have to use that psychological defense mechanism of denial, meaning, you don’t believe you’re really even taking them, or that you’ll truly get caught. You also won’t admit it to anyone else. If the test comes up positive, you still act as if you’re not using, or didn’t use, or that this or that thing was contaminated. The point was I think with these boxers, or at least one of them, they didn’t report that they were using supplements…supplement A or supplement B…
Boxing Insider: Right. Peterson…
Dr. Ronald Kamm: Every elite athlete knows that they must check with their physician or their sport’s governing body, or USADA, or VADA, to see whether what they’re contemplating using may be contaminated or not. The burden is on them. And they must not take anything that’s not on the approved list. So you can’t say, “Oh, I took this stuff and it was contaminated.” It’s on the boxer. Or on the boxer’s people.
Boxing Insider: We’ll get back on the topic of contamination, but speaking of the boxer you just mentioned, Lamont Peterson, he had tested positive for synthetic testosterone. He claimed that it was a medical condition that he had that was due to low testosterone levels…
Dr. Ronald Kamm: Exactly. But he did not disclose it prior to the fight.
Boxing Insider: Correct. Is that normal for someone his age, and in his athletic shape to have levels like that?
Dr. Ronald Kamm: I can’t say. It’s not normal to have low testosterone to begin with. People can be in good shape and come up low. It can vary, it can change, so it’s possible. It’s not probable, but it’s possible.
Boxing Insider: Okay. Could having low testosterone be a result of using a certain drug which then causes lower levels if you go off it?
Dr. Ronald Kamm: Well, if you have low testosterone and you’re being supplemented, and you’re being given testosterone by a doctor under prescription, and you just suddenly go off of it, it definitely causes withdrawal and that can have all kinds of psychiatric effects.
Boxing Insider: Now if you’re a fighter—let’s take this over to boxing for example—in your medical opinion, what specifically is taking testosterone going to help you do in the sport of boxing?
Dr. Ronald Kamm: It makes you stronger. You have faster recovery from injury. In a fight, if you were hit you might recover faster than if you weren’t on steroids. I think Khan was surprised that Peterson had the recuperative powers he did in their first fight. It also raises the boxer’s level of confidence, and his appetite for risk. That’s where it’s particularly scary, because it makes you more aggressive. Of course fighters are aggressive, but it’s supposed to be controlled aggression, which the referee tries to oversee and encourage. Then there’s aggressiveness to the point of going over the line. That is hitting the opponent low, or really continuing to hit an opponent when the ref’s trying to stop it, or right off the break.
Obviously the extreme would be Mike Tyson biting Holyfield’s ear. I’m not saying Tyson was using steroids, but his behavior that night would be compatible with “roid rage,” that kind of overreaction. So, really, fighters are in danger. You are taking your life in your hands when you go into the ring, and you are more or less hoping—or expecting—that, yes, the other fighter wants to win…but he’s not out to destroy you or your career. It’s like what’s going on with the NFL today with head injuries. You understand there’s a risk. You understand you’ll be tackled, but you’re hoping that the other guy doesn’t want to end your career.
But if you’re in there with somebody who’s hyped up on steroids, this guy won’t necessarily care about your career or anything else. Interestingly, when I looked at Peterson’s background, his father was in prison, the mother had personal issues— and of course, a lot of fighters do come from troubled backgrounds. But having a family history of emotional problems or a family history of drug use does put an individual at more risk for steroid use and abuse.
Boxing Insider: Is that due to the nature of survival? Like you’ll do whatever you have to do to survive?
Dr. Ronald Kamm: Well no, I just think it’s a genetic thing. You’re just predisposed.
Boxing Insider: Something that you mentioned I found interesting was the factor of recovering faster in boxing. Of course if you get hit on the chin, you’d need that immediate recovery. What is your opinion medically when it’s said that somebody has a good chin in boxing? Do think that it’s based on conditioning? Genetics? Certain places that you’re more susceptible to being knocked out for instance—on the chin, above the temple, the back of the head—would a steroid necessarily help someone that gets hit flush on one of those spots? Would any kind of drug help that?
Dr. Ronald Kamm: Yes it would. Because one of the places that steroids really are the neck muscles. If you strengthen your neck muscles, you’re going to be able to absorb a hit to the chin better. The neck muscles really thicken in a steroid user. If you look at the neck of Barry Bonds when he first came up, and then, years later, when he was finally shamed out of the sport, it’s amazing. Not just the forehead, and in the hat size getting bigger, but the neck. There are some actual mathematical equations that a colleague of mine at Harvard uses, looking at photos and using a caliper and being able to predict who’s using and who’s not. But there’s also absolutely a genetic ability to absorbing a punch. Obviously the more you train, and the better shape you’re in, you’re going to absorb it better, too. But some guys just genetically can take it on the chin better, and other guys have a quote “weak chin.”
Boxing Insider: Now you mentioned size of the head. Floyd Mayweather made reference to Manny Pacquiao, and the size of his head over the years. If you as a doctor, just with the eye test were to look at that, would you be suspicious of performance enhancing drug use based on that?
Peterson did little in the first half.
He may have been juicing, but that inactivity put him in good stead to see out the fight, regardless of PEDs.
Similarly Garcia fought a bad fight, entirely down to Peterson's lateral movement.
There aren't 'lateral movement PEDs' knocking about. That's a conscious way to fight, through work in the gym to build up that intelligence and also instinct to move in that way.
He may have been juicing, but what impressed me the most can't be PED'd into you.
That's how he always looks. He was probably motivated to make a good impression on the stage, but otherwise that was the same Peterson as always.
PEDerson usually looks ripped, but he dwarfed Danny last night, I was not expecting him to be that big.
People really should give Peterson his due. It's time. He's always counted out and always treated like some nobody C class fighter but he goes out there and is competitive with damn near everyone. He's a pretty good fighter.
Of course he was juicing he practically had sunny delight coming out of his pores.He also was able to walk through punches in this fight,just like in the Khan fight
You know his story better than i do,just pointing out in all combat sports there are improvements in training /nutrition to enhance performance without cheating which can make a fighter look like night and day literally within weeks.
I'd agree, nutrition and training techniques can vastly improve athletes, just look at Djokovic in the last 3-4 years, completely different player to what he once was but the inklings of great speed, agility and intelligence for tennis were always there. Peterson has always been a thinking fighter but he wasn never superbly quick or had the agility he showed last night. Plus, I doubt he has ever been regarded as a strong fighter and he went up against one of the top 3 strongest guys in the division and bullied him down the stretch, that's what is suspicious: not just the improvement but extent of the improvement AND the gift of speed and strength he never had before.
Plus, he has already tested positive once and was protected by all the bodies currently involved in last nights match up.
i wouldnt put it past peterson to be on the juice for this fight. chance to take danny's 0, first fight on nbc, why not?
Considering the whole NBC deal is run by one guy, it's very easy to cover up any positive test results or not to have any tests in the first place.
No doubt in my mind that he had testosterone pellets in his ass. But come on, let's be serious. ALL THE ELITE FIGHTERS ARE JUICING. Lamont was just one of those who got caught. I find it hard to get outraged about him specifically using when everyone else is on that sh*t.
Just because you theorise everyone is doing it, as many in boxing keep saying, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be getting pissed at it. It's a major problem in sports, a bigger one in American sport and the biggest in boxing. Everyone involved in boxing should be looking at these things closely and when someone is caught, he should be suspended and stripped of any titles. Pederson was not.
This idea that just cos everyone is doing it, it's ok is ridiculous. If you have 5 murderers and one gets caught, we aren't gonna let him off the hook cos 4 others are still doing it. It's plain common sense.
Age doesnt win fights ,skill and smart training does ,im long gone from 25 and am in better shape now,the whole age relates to performance is highly overrated and blown out of proportion because it was somewhat true in yester years athletes where if you were remotely in your early 30's you were over the hill,nowadays for some that is a beginning point....if i had a dollar for every time i was asked if i was on peds i would have a pretty good night out .Keep in mind there are an umbundance of legal supplements that greatly enhance performance .
lol age isn't the only factor, Peterson is a solidified cheat and there's a great chance he was cheating here again. I've seen him struggle against far weaker opposition and now all of a sudden he had stamina on the level of a young Ali and was physically bossing DG like no one before.