Marquez loses against Bradley and nobody makes a peep. Now Marquez gets chest pimples and beats up Alvarado (Alvarado always gets beat up, even when he wins) and everyone goes nuts again? Seems like you guys only have a problem with him winning?:pat:
A fighter brings in memo and looks like he-man, and all of a sudden his body showing the signs of ped abuse, which has never occurred before. People don't think it's a bit odd. GTFO.
I don't think it's suspicious at all. Alvarado was right there letting Marquez get off his combinations.
Marquez looks older and slow, but Alvarado is slower and has lead for feet.
Marquez has pop. He stopped Diaz and Katsidis FFS.
You weren't screaming and hollering about PEDs when he lost to Bradley?
He had wars with katsidis and Diaz. He didn't have no one punch ko power at lightweight. He broke those fighters down. I have been suspicious of marquez since his appointment of memo, and him looking bigger and more cut than pac in the 4th fight weigh in. The fighter moving up 2 divisions. Then he kd pac and kos him at welterweight when he never came close to doing it before in his prime division. Now he's showing signs if ped abuse. You want to live in fairyland then do so. But the majority of people are not buying this bull.
So marquez shouldn't be under suspicion. You see everything happening as normal. You don't think his body looks odd. You think working with memo is not highly suspicious. You think a career featherweight can make the transition to welterweight at the latter stage of his career and gain power as normal. The same light weight going to war with c+ fighters like katsidis and juan Diaz. Don't be so biased .
I don't think it's suspicious at all. Alvarado was right there letting Marquez get off his combinations.
Marquez looks older and slow, but Alvarado is slower and has lead for feet.
Marquez has pop. He stopped Diaz and Katsidis FFS.
You weren't screaming and hollering about PEDs when he lost to Bradley?
PEDs don't make you superhuman and Bradley isnt Alvarado.
Watch the Mr Olympia competition and let me know if those guys are regular humans anymore lol..
Some people just want to "see" things when it suits their agenda, Pacquaio fans specially since his KTFO6 loss to Marquez.
It was damn good fights and these people are tainting it with all this BS non sense.
Marquez has passed all of the tests.
Sounding like a bunch of Mayweather Snrs. When you're going to sit there and let Marquez get off on his combination you'll end up like Alvarado to. SMH, he beat Mike Alvarado FFS.
So marquez shouldn't be under suspicion. You see everything happening as normal. You don't think his body looks odd. You think working with memo is not highly suspicious. You think a career featherweight can make the transition to welterweight at the latter stage of his career and gain power as normal. The same light weight going to war with c+ fighters like katsidis and juan Diaz. Don't be so biased .
Marquez loses against Bradley and nobody makes a peep. Now Marquez gets chest pimples and beats up Alvarado (Alvarado always gets beat up, even when he wins) and everyone goes nuts again? Seems like you guys only have a problem with him winning?:pat:
Some people just want to "see" things when it suits their agenda, Pacquaio fans specially since his KTFO6 loss to Marquez.
It was damn good fights and these people are tainting it with all this BS non sense.
Marquez has passed all of the tests.
Sounding like a bunch of Mayweather Snrs. When you're going to sit there and let Marquez get off on his combination you'll end up like Alvarado to. SMH, he beat Mike Alvarado FFS.
He agreed then asked for cuts days eventually choosing to walk from the fight. Manny claimed he agreed to no cut off which was exposed as a lie by koncz on the second episode of pacmarg247 stating they asked for 7 days. Roach and Ariza both said manny refused the fight
So stfu and stop lying, clown
What are you even talking about? Did my post state when Manny agreed? Even Floyd admitted that testing was no longer an issue.
By the way, "Do you think that Marquez is taking PEDs?" That is all that needs to be cleared up here ...... because as far as Floyd is concerned, he set a record for number of roadblocks to prevent the fight from happening.
Umm, Memo Heredia was training Marquez for the fight with Bradley. And they also did random drug testing, but through NSAC.
Thats the point, when no Random testing, Marquez turns into superman! lol!
Marquez was tested by the commission for the Bradley fight - enhanced testing of blood & urine. Here are the detailed results along with what they tested for:
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/4085925/Bradley-Marquez_WADA_testing_.pdf
They don't tell you who fighter A or fighter B is, just that this was the testing for that fight. They tested using WADA code, and you can see that testosterone, HGH & HGC were among the things that they tested for. Some of the screenings were partial, and some full, but both guys were tested against the full panel at some point in the lead up to the fight.
So if you think Marquez has been cheating, he either found a way to beat these enhanced tests or was off the substance for that fight.
You can't be this retarded, well maybe you are. We've always been for testing unlike you clowns who have been switching your stance depending on Juicemans stance
You can't be that retarded, I never said that I was against testing and Manny agreed to extra testing from DAY #1. They couldn't agree to cut-off dates
When Floyd requested cutoff date of14 days, there was a poll here where many Floyd AND Manny fans agreed that they wished that to get this fight on, that Manny agreed to the 14 day cutoff. Do you remember? Do you understand?
Once Floyd removed the cutoff date, his fans didn't care about making the fight and was in agreement with whatever Floyd says. For everyone but Floyd fans, we started seeing Floyd back-peddling.
Just so you understand, it is NOT the testing but the suspicion that Floyd wanted to do and say anything to DUCK from fighting Manny. Initially, I was NOT calling Floyd a ducker but did question his motivation due to previous DUCKs. Once Manny agreed and Floyd put them new roadblocks, I said, once a ducker, always a ducker!
Again, nothing to do with the actual PEDs testing. I just wanted them to fight and thought one was ducking (Floyd) ....
As for you guys, you don't seem to care that Marquez shows all these signs. Yet with less evidence on Manny, YOU, Floyd and others incriminated Manny. The biggest issue is Memo for Marquez. Then the "new" power, the suspicious "look" and now the acne all over his body. Plus you can see in the 24/7 and other video clips that Marquez will do and try various ways to improve himself. Some are cool and legit but he even went as far as drinking urine because someone told him to. So if Memo tells him to take this "rejuvenation" thingy, perhaps Marquez will.
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Are you telling me Bradley's youth/speed and movement and good chin had nothing to do with Marquez missing alot of punches and therefor looking a lot slower and appearing to have less power when he did connect?
Bing, bing, bing, bing ..... we have a winner!
Bradley did what Marquez doesn't like. Box against him. It neutralizes Marquez's new found power. Marquez could have still caught Bradley but it was less likely.
If Bradley fought like he did Manny, Bradley would have been KOed or at the very least knocked down several times!
People just like to make conclusions about PED use because they are bored. Its something to gossip about. If its so clear then why want testing? If you can just look at a guy and make a judgment then dont demand fighters get tested.
Yet, everyone was against it when it was Pac being accused and told to get tests. Funny that after Pac gets knocked, all of his fans start accusing his opponent of avoiding tests and that they should all get tests. Very funny how it works.
not all his fans and stop generalizing bro....
Yeah, one KO in five fights and he's got super knock out powers against everyone!
Yet, everyone was against it when it was Pac being accused and told to get tests. Funny that after Pac gets knocked, all of his fans start accusing his opponent of avoiding tests and that they should all get tests. Very funny how it works.
Wished Floyd and his fans said the same for all these years ..... In fact, they don't even care anymore about PEDs testing :lame:
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Are you telling me Bradley's youth/speed and movement and good chin had nothing to do with Marquez missing alot of punches and therefor looking a lot slower and appearing to have less power when he did connect?
I wouldn't say nothing, but if you didn't notice a difference in the way JMM looked in those fights, maybe you should consider following another sport there chief.
Why is hopkins exactly in ped talks? Down right disrespectful
It might have something to do with the fact that he's still at the top of the sport at an age where even the greatest fighters of all time were already well into retirement.
Also, he's never undergone strict testing. Not once. In his entire career.
It's not disrespectful to think he may be on something illegal. In fact, it's naive and idiotic to think that he's not.