So is there anyone out there who acually believes Anthony Joshua is a clean athlete?

Look at this guy, seriously. http://images.sportinglife.com/13/10/800x600/joshua_3014805.jpg http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anthony+Joshua+Carl+Froch+v+George+Groves+usfIbdn6kmfl.jpg http://e1.365dm.com/13/10/660x350/183178694_3015018.jpg?20131006122710 http://e2.365dm.com/13/11/660x350/anthonyjoshua_3035904.jpg?20131115112208 So what is it then, genetics? If so, where were these genes in the 70's and 80's because I didn't see any fighters lookinh like this back then. Is it "advances in modern training"? Which are what exactly, a needle in the arm after every session? Have weight training and plyometrics only been around for the last ten years or something? I don't see anything in your average boxing gym today which wouldn't have been around in the 70's. As for "innocent until proven guilty", that would be fine if testing standards in boxing were up to scratch. But they're not, they're not even close. British boxer Larry Olubamiwo took 13 banned substances including HGH and anabolic steroids over a six year period before finally getting caught for EPO and admitting to the rest. Standard commissions in the US are no better, look up Joe Rogan's interview with Victor Conte for more information on that. HGH isn't even tested for. I wish people in boxing wouldn't turn a blind eye to this. I think it's our duty as fans to make as much noise as possible when somebody looks dirty and the onus should be on them to prove they're clean by undertaking the most stringent testing possible. Forget about personal bias and picking favourites, just speak up regardless for the sake of the sport's integrity. Boxing is dangerous enough without all of this. You've got Marquez blatantly doping after getting together with Memo, Shawn Porter giving Malignaggi a hematoma inside four rounds and suddenly looking a beast after hooking up with Victor Conte and Rios getting busted by VADA after only one fight with Ariza. Who knows how many other fighters are flying under the radar. Trainers and promoters are gonna protect their fighter no matter what, but I for one am sick of seeing this shameless cheating.

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Here's what heavyweights look like juice free. http://www.psacard.com/resourceimages/joe-louis-signed-photo-3-1.jpg https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/65/98365-004-02AD067E.jpg Here's Joshua. http://static.pulse.ng/img/incoming/origs3490854/068636297-w644-h960/Anthony-Joshua.jpg Genetics? Yeah sure. :rolleyes:

9y ago

Fury4daWIN

No top boxer is clean. Not Joshua, not Fury, not Wlad or Wilder. Joshua's just an easy target because he's so obviously roiding. But honestly, people need to get their head out of the sand and wake up to the reality.

9y ago

Fury4daWIN

There's no bottom line. Show me a bodybuilder with Aj genetics. Do you know what Nigerians look like on steroids? https://www.phillipheath.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/phil-heath-mr-olympia02.png

9y ago

davidandrei

No matter who the boxer is, their fans only care that they pass the test. I'm sure most people deep down know most boxers arent clean. What they will cling to is that it can't be proven.

9y ago

ShoulderRoll

I for one don't believe he is a clean athlete. But if he passes VADA testing that is the most we can ask at the moment. It's the best testing we have in the sport.

9y ago

Fury4daWIN

Or Lucas Browne. Remember him? Remember how everyone was defending him because he "didn't look like that kind of guy" whatever the fock that means? Then he got popped again. We all know what's going on here. Nothing going on here other than a huge display of mass ignorance and stunning naiveté. Aj is part Irish part Nigerian white boys aren't used to these genetics and will hate. That's just the way it is. Case in point.

9y ago

AliBombaye

Here we go again. Blacks and whites have different genetics. DEAL WITH IT Yes I know all about the fast twitch fibre muscles and what not, hell asians in generals have amazing calf genetics. You think blacks in pro body building are clean lmfao, AJ probs secretes excessive PEDS from every orifice during sleeping. Please like I said be my guest, make an account of bodybuilding.com. Go to the misc section and post a picture of AJ and name the thread title 'Is this guy natty?' Can't wait to laugh at the responses, if AJ is natty then I'm a rocket scientist with an IQ over 200, good luck.

9y ago

KingHippo

There's plenty of body builders with amazing genetics but for them to reach the pinnacle they've all juiced just like AJ. Like I said only a fool or a black supremacist would think he's NOT juicing. You can add Holyfield and Frank Bruno to that list also to name a couple very obvious ones. I would love to know AJ's daily diet and caloric intake to keep that body not only fuelled but maintain that size and body fat % lmfao. Here we go again. Blacks and whites have different genetics. DEAL WITH IT

9y ago

soul_survivor

From what I have personally seen of AJs training, I know him to be clean. Fact is, we should not be casting aspersions on any athlete who has never tested positive.

9y ago

AliBombaye

There's no bottom line. Show me a bodybuilder with Aj genetics. Do you know what Nigerians look like on steroids? There's plenty of body builders with amazing genetics but for them to reach the pinnacle they've all juiced just like AJ. Like I said only a fool or a black supremacist would think he's NOT juicing. You can add Holyfield and Frank Bruno to that list also to name a couple very obvious ones. I would love to know AJ's daily diet and caloric intake to keep that body not only fuelled but maintain that size and body fat % lmfao.

9y ago

KingHippo

He's isn't natty and that's the bottom line. People used PEDS to win 'natural' body building comps and we all know they ain't natty either. AJ is juicing to the gills and beyond, dude has left humanity behind. There's no bottom line. Show me a bodybuilder with Aj genetics. Do you know what Nigerians look like on steroids?

9y ago

AliBombaye

Aj is part Irish part Nigerian white boys aren't used to these genetics and will hate. That's just the way it is. He's isn't natty and that's the bottom line. People used PEDS to win 'natural' body building comps and we all know they ain't natty either. AJ is juicing to the gills and beyond, dude has left humanity behind.

9y ago

KingHippo

Post a picture of him on any bodybuilding website and ask if they think he is natural, they will laugh you out of the thread, people who don't know chit about body building/building muscle etc.. are naive as ****. Hell some people still think WWE is real. AJ is on some next level PEDS, his GH gut doesn't help his cause of claiming natty either. Only a complete and utter spastic would claim he is natty, remember also even if he passes tests it means he passed for things they never tested or he's got an amazing team cycling his PEDS at perfect times and what not. Remember meldonium wasn't test for AGES and then when they started testing for it athletes got popped all over the place. Aj is part Irish part Nigerian white boys aren't used to these genetics and will hate. That's just the way it is.

9y ago

AliBombaye

9y ago

KingHippo

Joshua takes way more heat than Klitschko ever did imo. Despite Klitschko basically being the same size and weight and ripped to shreds at 40 yrs old They are both probably juicing, but both are signed up with VADA for this fight so what can we say? Slate the guys who get caught like Povetkin or (most likely) Fury, rather than speculating on body shapes and what not. Or Lucas Browne. Remember him? Remember how everyone was defending him because he "didn't look like that kind of guy" whatever the fock that means? Then he got popped again. We all know what's going on here.

9y ago

KingHippo

I think some things are possible naturally to black athletes that isn't possible with whites and people are mad about that. It's very possible that he could be natural. But if his name was Uzumaki Takashima, then I'd be suspicious.

9y ago

yammy25

Can I get a source for this? Neither is enrolled in VADA according to boxrec, and none of Joshua's fights have ever used VADA testing. Isnt the enlistment only for the 365 WBC funded program? Eddie hearn said on twitter a week or so ago about this to someone that only his fighters that are ranked with the wbc or aiming for their belt have signed up it , but that AJ is subject to VADA testing for the klitschko fight, as is wlad at wlads request it be in the contract for the fight.

9y ago

keith_head

They are both probably juicing, but both are signed up with VADA for this fight so what can we say? Can I get a source for this? Neither is enrolled in VADA according to boxrec, and none of Joshua's fights have ever used VADA testing.

9y ago

Dr_Rumack

Too lean to be clean at his size.

9y ago

Randall_Cunning

I think it's just a bit more obvious with Joshua. Wlad's thickness and vascularity, which he's maintained time and again well into his forties, does not look in the least bit natural, but we've had time to get used to him. With Joshua it seems like an almost overnight thing, and more eyebrows are naturally going to be raised. If both fighters make it through the VADA testing it'll put a major question mark on the efficacy of that program for me. Of course guys who actually test positive must catch the heat, but it galls me that someone like Joshua can continually dupe the tests while sporting such a ridiculously enhanced appearance. That speaks of either incompetence, corruption, or lack of knowledge, quite possibly an amalgam of all three. At what point do you stop though? These Mayweather/Pacquiaos are taking it to the grave

9y ago