yes i have seen joe fight. his a superb fighter. he made kessler look like a worthles fighter when ever1 knows that kessler is an elite fighter.
the question is have you seen roy fight? a prime roy fight?? he was untouchable man. he literally toyed with toney and hopkins. fuk all the excuses you can about the reason y hopkins and toney loss. he toyed with em. in his PRIME he was unstoppable and untouchable at 168 and 175.
Kessler is elite now?
Clottey, but in reality, Margarito's resume is not very good. Antonio Diaz isn't a terrible fighter either.
But in reality.. Clotteys broken hand beat Clottey, because he was owning Margarito until then. Even then Margo could barely beat a one-handed Clottey, which actually says alot about more about Clottey than Margarito.
PS and no, Margarito didn´t ::also hurt his hand::, he had to make up an excuse because he sucked in that fight.
Shut up and go wash your bumbaclot. I got nothing but love for Jamaica, but you're most definately a queer. I bet maricón is the only Spanish you know. It's the only thing any hispanic has ever said to you, with a face like that.
PS It's ridiculous you go around trying to call people maricon yet you want to call yourself foxyboy. Stupid pretender.
Originally Posted by Allucard
YOU MOTHERFUCKERS JUST LEAVE FLOYD ALONE. HE IS HIS OWN BOSS. HE HAS NOTHING ELSE TO PROVE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS ALL JUST WANT HIM TO KEEP FIGHTING THESE YOUNG LIONS ONE AFTER THE OTHER TILL HE LOSES BUT YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE FUCKING WRONG DECADE.
when you say young lions do you mean Arturo Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Baldomir, Oscar or Hatton?
probably something along the lines of; "Help I can't breathe!"
Actually, he already held a press conference and said fighting Cotto felt like being kicked by a donkey. That got me to thinking, has this guy really ever been kicked by a donkey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Why would it mean he's better than Margarito? I remember when Mayorga fought De La Hoya he was saying he would win cuz he beat Forrest who beat Mosley who beat DLH, and look how that ended up. That's not the way boxing works dude.
Except for the fact that Mayorga fights like he's a 5th grader in a school playground, and relies entirely on landing a wild bomb.
To call out for Cotto and have Cotto? I think Cotto needs Williams too. That's imo number 2 vs number 3 welterweights right there, being Cotto number 3 :)
I think that fight has to happen. Cotto is more desusional than Williams. Williams wants Cotto. Cotto wants Mayweather, Mayweather wants Oscar and wants no part of the younger WW clearly. I also think Cotto will start to feel the Williams call louder once he get another win vs a good fighter - quintana. Yes Cotto has already beaten Quintana but hasn't beat Margarito, Williams has.
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Originally Posted by kayjay
Williams is not in Cotto's league, and worse it's a horrible matchup for Williams. But there's no reason it shouldn't be proven in the ring.
But Margarito-Cotto would be a more entertaining fight
That's the kind of complete Bullshit Cotto fans and people who hate Williams say. He's ready. He's beaten Margarito, a fighter tough as nails and strong as Cotto. He's beaten Margo for 12 entire rounds and even the hardcore fans of Margarito didn't give Margo more than 3 rounds. He doesn't slap, he does have some power and the fact Cotto tired vs low output Shane Mosley can only leave you guessing what the accumulation of punches Williams would land do...
He IS ready.
Looks like Williams won't be the guy to save Mayweather from having to face Miguel Cotto, as you had hoped in your prayers. It is you who is not ready to think or form opinions.
No. He will win. And he will (your secret worse nightmare) call out Cotto. AGAIN. Cotto will duck. AGAIN. You are gonna make excuses like "williams needs more fights to get a chance at Cotto" threads. AGAIN. Mark my words.
Consider your words marked.
You were right, Welter - we were overrating Williams.
I remember I posted anyone would need to be a fool to bet on Quintana. Parody offered me 80,000 points to my 20,000 points if I bet on Quintana, and I turned it down. I feel like the fool now...
I had planned to bet all the points I was supposed to win on the Tito fight on Quintana. I overestimated Tito.
No doubt, COTTO. I want to see Cotto exposed and i think Williams can do it.
Why isn't it going to happen? Btw Zab-Shane isn't gonna happen too. Most of yo disgust me. You wish Williams SHIT. You motherfuckers hate him trying to match him up with lesser dudes but your boy Cotto is only matched up well to the p4p best, PBF. You disgust me.
Williams is a champion i say fight either Cotto or Mayweather, not fighters already bested.
And i perfer Cotto to Mayweather because it's more likely to happen if boxing gets rid of fucking Arum.
You think too much!
I think you're being a little too hard on Floyd. He hasn't done anything great? He's probably a natural 130/135 lber. and he's beat Judah, Baldomir, DLH and Hatton all in a row. Cotto is the only 147 lber. who comes close to matching that over the last two years. The fight has to happen eventually and it probably will. Does the fact that it won't happen in 2008 make it less significant? Did the fact that Mayweather-Hatton happened at 147 instead of 140 make it less significant? I don't know how it could, but maybe you disagree.
We've been over this before, but I guess we didn't go through it thoroughly enough. Judah, Baldomir, DLH and Hatton is not all that impressive. FMJ's win over Hatton is just ever so slightly more significant than Cotto's over Malignaggi if only because Hatton has a large fanbase overseas. At least Cotto fought the Jr. Welterweight at Jr. Welter. In fact... Mosley, Judah, Urkal, Quintana is far more impressive, especially from a welterweight standpoint. This should have become more clear after Quintana disposed of PW this weekend.
If you cancel out Judah cuz both have fought and beaten him this is how the opponents lay out:
Mayweather: Mitchell, Baldomir, Hatton
Cotto: Quintana, Urkal, Mosley
How could it be said that Cotto has the better WW career, I don't know. Mayweather is the man and the haters need to get out of their denial zone.
I'm going to assume you are being sarcastic because I would hate to believe you are such a worthless human being. A 3-legged chihuahua in mexico is far more entitled to breathe air, or simply take up space on this planet earth than anyone who actually believes what you just wrote.
everyone dissing diss sweating Mayorga ton
Seriously, if you had to bet your life on it right now. stupid Callazo. I swear people diss Hatton for that win way too much. Collazo is good as shit and Hatton beat him. Collazo would give a ton of cats trouble. The bottom line is that Floyds win over Hatton and espically Oscar should be given way more credit then it has. Imagine of Cotto won those 2 fights? You think they hype him now? He would be the #1 rated P4P guy in boxing and be the #1 star if he had done that
For those not wanting to read the whole rant. This is what Mr. all grown up DLT had to say with 1000 words; To become #1 P4P you need to beat Oscar and Hatton.
So i am the only person who said Williams was a good fighter on Boxing scene..??
I am the only person who pick Williams to win..??
If i am then I must be the only one on this boxing website...
The difference between all those people that chose PW to win over Quintana and yourself is that you're the only one still working his balls desperately hoping to ride him again. The Quintana/Pwill fight raises Cottos stock, wether you like it or not, because Cotto did not just beat Quintana, he demolished Quintana, just like he destroyed any number of fighters that went the distance with Floyd.
Do not get me wrong....
Cotto is a good fighter....
A real good fighter....
In addition, arguably he is #2 in the WW division now that Williams lost....
But just like there is a huge gap between 2 and 3
There is a huge gap between 1 and 2
Cotto is only arguably #2 in the welterweight division when you argue he's not #1. I have no idea what the hell you thought anyone else in the welter division had done previous to the PW/Quintana be ranked higher than Cotto. Unfortunately for Cotto, there is no fight short of Floyd that he could win to prove he is #1, and that guy just doesn't want to fight him.
You better watch out from the new Quintana nuthuggers, they have proclaimed him as the new P4P King, and the funny thing is the same people who would say he was a bum before the Zombie Williams fight, people are so fucking hyprocite they make me sick.
I don't see any of these new Quintana "nuthuggers" you speak of that proclaim him the best P4P. In fact, I've not seen a single one.