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A prime Oscar would outbox Pacquiao and stop him late. The movement, speed and especially the jab would be too much. A Prime Oscar is B+ fighter according to Whitaker. http://insidesports.ph/boxing/whitaker-says-dela-hoya-b-fighter-during-his-prime/ He wont be able to stop Pac.

The list actually is a joke bro... You want to call Al Bernstein, Tom Hauser, Ron Borges, Jean-Philippe Lustyk and Colin Hart a joke?

What a joke manny number 2 and number one feather??hahahahaha tyson second greatest heavy? hahahaha alot of dumbasses voting Pacquiao may be greater than Willie Pep overall but he is not a better featherweight than Willie Pep. Just like Armstrong is a better fighter than Duran, but not a better lightweight. Segmenting greatness by weight class is dicey. Why not? Manny was undefeated at 122-126 and all of his wins by KO/TKO.

Which one would you take: Being the GOAT or 50 million dollars Assume you are boxer A. There are two fights available. One with boxer B and the other boxer C. If you beat boxer B, you will be considered as the greatest fighter of all time and no one will ever question you for ever. The other fight is with boxer C, beating him would be considered as a good win, nothing more. However, you will pocket 50 million dollars straight up. Which one would you take: Immortal fame or Money Hmmm... Similar to this? Pac vs. Pavlik - for the GOAT or Pac vs. Mayweather - for the money I'll take the $50 million.

Exactly. And, for that reason you can not bump Pac that high for this victory. I mean he would get credit. But, should not be top 5, or top 10 all time kind of credit. Care to comment on this one? By Cliff Rold It’s an unlikely scenario for Manny Pacquaio to win a Hatton fight but not entirely inconceivable. If the marginally possible became the recently occurred, it would be the sort of achievement that could become truly transcendent; this generation’s Henry Armstrong triple-crown. http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=11974

According to Cliff Rold... Many a fan has asked the question: what would it take for a modern fighter to make a run at Sugar Ray Robinson’s hold on the mythical top of the sport’s all-time ratings?It may be the answer is nothing.If not, the answer is that we are witnessing it in our time. On Saturday night, with a frightening precision, the same Manny Pacquiao (49-3-2, 37 KO) who came from behind on December 4, 1998, to knock out lineal and WBC World Flyweight champion Chatchai Sasakul in the eighth round with a single punch, walked through lineal World Junior Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton (45-2, 32 KO) in one second shy of six minutes.In doing so, Pacquiao became only the second man to make title claims in six weight divisions and the first man ever to win lineal World titles in four weight classes. Read more

pacman fans will say he can beat them all while fukking jinky from the back and moonwalking to smooth criminal Agree with the bolded part. :haha:

Wow! I can't believe you brought this thread back. I think that many of us can agree we were wrong about who Manny could beat. Even though, his resume would have looked a lot better without the catchweights. If Pac had fought Berto back then he would be accused of cherry picking the weakest beltholder.

On the ESPN scroll on the bottom of the screen... Ring Magazine Welterweight Rankings 1. Shane Mosley 2. Miguel Cotto 3. Antonio Margarito 4. Joshua Clottey 5. Manny Pacqiao your opinion Damn! Pacquiao cherrypicked all the fighters above him.

AGREE/DISAGREE:boxing: :rofl: Look at Oscar slugging it out with the smaller man instead of using his jab. dumb****.

He couldn't... shouldn't... wouldn't

If Mayweather Jr. doesn't fight Manny Pacquiao then........... he should fight PWILL. PWILL ducked clottey to fight the draw at WW. Floyd is the bigger draw - ellerbe Keep the money in the house.

Marquez lost his balls. PAC is not weight drained now.

If JMM and Pacman fights for the third time at pacman best weight 145lbs, it will surely make JMM lost hi mind if he will hit by Pacmans best shot again. Hehehehehehehehehe Co-sign. PAC by an easy knockout.

Dream on Though its hard to tell Though youre foolin yourself Dream on You can hide away There is nothing to say, so dream on Dream on Though its hard to tell Though youre foolin yourself, dream on

Posted already, but a great article. Well worth a read. Haven't seen it here. maybe at ESB.

Khan by decision.

BulllSheeeeeet lol Margo was weight DRAINED get it ! KOED , 2 yrs out , 1 fight at 154 where he looked like crap , cant get an American licence to box but Arum gets it , needed diuretics to make 150 , 8oz gloves in a 10oz division , 26 ft ring . You dont see the stacked deck in this fight , off course not , you been a boxing fan how long ? you got to understand a little bit about the workings of a fighter . See the similarities? Lots of excuses.

Margarito was relentless when he fought Pac. Some people say Pac was never the same after that fight. How would Mayweather do against that Margarito? Similar to Tyson vs. Foreman

Where's the factual article on this again? The USADA numbers don't add up. Total tests conducted by USADA for boxing on the first 2 quarter of 2012 - 49 http://www.usada.org/sport-testing-numbers-2012 Total tests on atheletes tested under their program for the 1st 2 quarter of 2012(boxing) - 45 http://www.usada.org/athlete-test-history 1st Qtr 2012 22 Athletes Selected 36 Total Tests Athlete Name Test Count Luis E Arias 1 Dominic Breazeale 1 Tiara Brown 1 Marcus Browne 1 Joseph P Diaz 2 Tyreishia Douglas 3 Marlen Esparza 3 Terrell M Gausha 1 Chatiqua Hemingway 2 Tika Hemingway 1 Jamel Herring 1 Michael Hunter 1 Mikaela Mayer 1 Jose C Ramirez 1 Sijuola Shabazz 4 Claressa Shields 1 Lenroy C Thompson 2 Quanitta L Underwood 3 Santos Vasquez 1 Rau'Shee M Warren 2 Andrecia Wasson 2 Joseph Williams 1 2nd Qtr 2012 6 Athletes Selected 9 Total Tests Athlete Name Test Count Joseph P Diaz 1 Marlen Esparza 1 Claressa Shields 1 Errol L Spence 1 Quanitta L Underwood 2 Rau'Shee M Warren 3 Total tests conducted for Cotto-Mayweather - 18 http://www.usada.org/cotto-mayweather

Pacquiao > Duran

No shame on losing to a guy who has the physical advantage.

All my points on Pac by KO. 10 to 1 odds. Any takers???

All we really have that is supporting Floyd are his nuthuggin fans. Nothing is coming directly from Mayweather so why keep bringing his name up. He doesn't want to fight. His fans argue for him so lets just keep his name out of the boxing for now. Thanks Please be patient. They are slowly turning into piss brigade. :rofl::rofl:

Cotto isn't going to fight Martinez. And whoever believed Pac was going to fight him? Pac at JMW was a hit and run. That's the same **** Roach said after the De la hoya fight.

Sergio's marketability to the casual boxing fans is still in question. Its a good business move for Arum to put him first against a big name like Cotto or Margarito before putting him in the same ring with his cash cow. I think Pac might move up again if the price is right.

1. Pac 2. Mayweather 3. Mosley 4. Ortiz 5. Berto

Why is Manny ducking Kell Brook that's what i want to know.. there is no doubt in my mind Kell beats Mosley, Clottey, Cotto Welcome to the dreamer's lounge.

With the exception of Floyd, nobody else can really say that they are better.

PWILL is looking for the bigger draw. Mayweather is a bigger draw than PWILL PWILL vs Floyd shoulda coulda woulda happen.:boxing: