So Cotto is the one fighting Martinez and not Pacquiao?????!!

maybe I am wrong but imho Pac will only fight Martinez after he fights PBF or it is abosolutely clear and beyond any doubt that the Mayweather fight wont ever be made ...

i wouldnt doubt it Lol everyo.e except pac juanma gamboa in top rank are getting the step son treatment

if sergio really wants pac , fight him at his highest weight at 150 , dont ask for anything higher...margo fought himn at 150 , why cant sergio when he's just as big as margo?.... Pac never went that high never intended to. He stayed at his weight to keep his speed advantage over a mummy

He's prob hoping Cotto can win, then he can have a Pacquiao/Cotto rematch i wouldnt doubt it

Cotto is taller.

Cotto vs Martinez is a lead up to Pacquiao vs Martinez. Cotto vs Martinez will happen as there are no big money fights for Martinez and the fact that Cotto feels a Chavez fight is a waste of time as well as his dislike for Margarito due to the fact he felt he cheated. Then after Manny destroys Shane and beats Floyd, two things I fully expect to happen.....there really isn't anyone left that would give Manny a good fight at 140 or 147. By then Khan would have beaten Bradley vs Alexander winner, and there is no way Khan vs Manny happens due to Roach. Also while Martinez beats Cotto convincingly, but will have enough moments and moderate success that will have team Pacquiao really believing they can take this fight at 155.

That shit is weak homey. And it goes to show you that given that Pacquiao and Arum claim he's too small to compete at 154, then he never should've won a title in that division in the first place. I know 155 is one pound away from 154. But still, if Martinez is willing to go that low for Cotto, then why can't he go that low for Pac? I just can't find a possible way to respect Pacquiao right now. And I'm trying to be as civil as I can about it. Iceta , why are you so biased and retarded. You never give anybody credit. Except mexicans.

Cotto isn't going to fight Martinez. And whoever believed Pac was going to fight him? Pac at JMW was a hit and run. That's the same **** Roach said after the De la hoya fight.

Cotto isn't going to fight Martinez. And whoever believed Pac was going to fight him? Pac at JMW was a hit and run.

Sergio's marketability to the casual boxing fans is still in question. Its a good business move for Arum to put him first against a big name like Cotto or Margarito before putting him in the same ring with his cash cow. I think Pac might move up again if the price is right.

Arum/Roach/Duckiao want no part of Martinez, JMM, Berto, Bradley, Alexander, instead they want Sugar Shane Nosley. Also, Cotto vs. Martinez is a great match up.

Pac doesn't want it with Mara, and Cotto is fighting margs in april I believe. ( and will lose)

So you admit Pacquiao fought Margarito and Cotto because he thought they were vulnerable rather than them being at their best? facts are facts and undebatable, but just as correct is the fact that Pac fought the most lucrative fights he could make in those same opponents also(with the exception of Clottey). Regarding draining Cotto, Toney and Oscar, those were big advantages no doubt, because had the fighters came in over weight im sure the $$$$penalties would have been massive. Thats a hell of a lot of added pressure hanging over a fighters head during training. How big of a factor was it? Who really knows but the fighters themselves, probably not a main deciding factor but again a Pac advantage.

How the hell is Arum gonna say Martinez is too dangerous or too big for Pacquiao and then at the same time feed Cotto to him when Pac would stand a better chance against him because he's better than Cotto is obviously. I guess the thing about Cotto is he's taken punishment and has been through the meet grinder because he lacks the ability to be elite like Pac does. But regardless of my rep as a Cotto hater, (And I don't like the catch weight either, even if it's not all Cotto's fault) he is putting Pacquiao to shame and Arum is such a contradictor by making a Cotto-Martinez fight instead of a Pac-Martinez fight. pretty soon you'll have a Cotto Avatar and sig and be head cheerleader for the Cotto cartel.... a reformed hater if you will.

Dude give it up lol. Manny said he would fight Margo after he beat Cotto and that is when every1 was on Margos nutsack. How many times has he called out Floyd? Who do you want him to fight? He fought Morales, Marquez and Barera who were all in their primes but you only know about the Manny Pacquiao after he beat Oscar. If Pacquaio was serious about fighting Margarito then, it would've happened because they were both promoted by Top Rank. Pacquiao jumped on Margarito after he saw Mosley knock his ass out and now he is jumping on Mosley now that Mosley got shut down by Floyd and fought an epic fight with a Contender. :ugh:

So you admit Pacquiao fought Margarito and Cotto because he thought they were vulnerable rather than them being at their best? Margarito, definitely. I was against that fight the second it was rumored, didn't buy it, didn't support it in any way, and didn't overreact when Pac did what he did because that's what he was supposed to do. The Cotto fight, that was against one of the two best welterweights in the world. If people want to think badly of the 145 catchweight, I'm not going to argue because I can't say Pac didn't get an advantage because of it, but it didn't look like Cotto was that effected to me. I think that fight was more about Cotto being Top Rank, and Arum knowing making a fight with him was easier than anyone else Pac could test the welterweight waters against. You seem to think I'm some hardcore Pactard, when my stance is that it's just common sense that fighting Martinez is a massive step for Pacquiao he just can't do. Saying he is ducking the guy is ridiculous.

So you admit Pacquiao fought Margarito and Cotto because he thought they were vulnerable rather than them being at their best? Dude give it up lol. Manny said he would fight Margo after he beat Cotto and that is when every1 was on Margos nutsack. How many times has he called out Floyd? Who do you want him to fight? He fought Morales, Marquez and Barera who were all in their primes but you only know about the Manny Pacquiao after he beat Oscar.

so manny can drain fighters and its ok...but fighting at a lil lower weight is unheard of?? These idiots will never give up. Forget belts and weight classes for a second and realise how Margo has been fighting at 147 for virtually his entire career and his fight against Mosley was a 147 so how on earth is he being weight drained for a fight at 150 lbs? Like I said forget about the JMW limit for now and explain how on earth was Margo drained? Miguel Cotto had to drop an additional pound when compared to his weigh in weight in his previous fight where he came in at 146lbs. You are trying to tell me an extra pound is going to f'uck up your entire preparations and it is that hard to lose an extra pound. I swear most of you 'experts' would not have even been aware of the true extent of weight draining before Oscar fought Manny. Nobody seemed to make such a huge deal on weight draining before that fight and now some of you walk around with it like a chip on your shoulders and try to use that as a legitimate excuse for a fighters loss. And Manny is not the one draining the fighters dummy, its Roach and co. Manny just lays the beating on this dudes. Idiots complain about a fighter having to lose an extra pound but when they add on 20 lbs for the fight then they start having bouts of amnesia and turn into hyporcrits.

What the hell about the Margarito and Cotto fights have you convinced Pacquiao is a duck for not fighting the middleweight champion!? I don't f***ing get it!! Explain it to me!! How does victories over Cotto at 145 and a past it Margarito at 150, where Margarito had never fought before, make you people think he can fight Martinez!? Because he has a bullsh** belt at 154!? Damn, common f***ing sense people. Whatever, I'm out. So you admit Pacquiao fought Margarito and Cotto because he thought they were vulnerable rather than them being at their best?

You can't use logic with Pac tards. It's like beating a dead horse. here's a simple logic for you dumbasses i'll do it with your standrads too: you mofos say sergio and martinez are the same size... margo fought pac at 150 without the any problems making weight why cant sergio?....lol here's another one: you mofos say pac should fight jmm at 135 thats 8 lbs lower than pac's last officail weight 150 is 8 lbs less than sergio's last official weight how come it's ok for pac to lose 8 lbs but not sergio when it's easier for a big guy to lose that much than fro a little guy?... ..