Ring Mag welterweight rankings on ESPN lol Pacman is #5

Do you expect them to preserve themselves while they wait for a lightweight to move to welter? Of course not, they fought each other, and sadly, according to some, they are now considered "bums" by doing so... I have to agree to this... Manny fought Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and now Mosley, the winners and losers of those fights, you are not a real boxing fan if you don't get this, Manny doesn't care who won or lost the last time he just wanted to fight the top and best players, he also did the same when he fought the three best mexicans in Barrera, Morales and Marquez. Manny just doesn't believe of a fighter being shot just because of 1 lost, Manny was KO'd when he was a teener but that did not stop him from moving forward... Leonard, Duran, Hearns and Hagler went round robin with each other and created legendary fights with each other, coz they were not afraid on who wins or looses they just want to fight the best... Ali, Fraizer and Foreman fought each other at some point in their career and that made them true legends of the sport.... You see the difference now, unlike one particular boxer who claims to be even bigger than Ray Robinson but is more concern of preserving his zero rather than showing his true worth inside the ring like the rest of the true boxers/fighters...

Completely agree. Pacquiao isn't fighting WW's, ban him ASAP. I will go and call the police now. brb They coming? What'd they say? Remind them not to bring guns. The bullets will just bounce off of Pac. A-Side Meth.

Pacquiao should have been banned from boxing for fighting two of the guys on that list. Clottey was 165 lbs. when Pac fought him. And Margarito was 168 lbs. when Pac fought him. Pacquiao was only 145 lbs. when he beat both of them. He does not deserve any welterweight credit for fighting super middleweights. Completely agree. Pacquiao isn't fighting WW's, ban him ASAP. I will go and call the police now. brb

:lol1: Nice thread..

If all those fights were in 2009 you would have a point... I don't have any problems with the Cotto, Clottey fights except for the catchweights. But Marg and Mosley fights are a joke at this point. So not 2 or 3, but Pac would have had to fight 4 times in 1 year for you to give him credit. You're right, he should've cleaned out the whole division in 1 year. You win, Manny is a bigger slacker in your eyes than mine. Pacquiao is such an underachiever.

2009 Ring Magazine Welterweight Rankings 1. Shane Mosley 2. Miguel Cotto 3. Antonio Margarito 4. Joshua Clottey 5. Manny Pacqiao 2011 Manny took an embarrassingly long time to try and fight the four guys above him. fuc.kin' Manny "Slacker" Pacquiao am I right? If he really wanted to impress people. He should've been fighting 3 times a year or have 2 fights a night. Because that's what Floyd did. Right?

pretty sure madsweeney was being sarcastic.

LOL @ people who though I was serious...yea cuz people go shot/get old in 6 months!

Lol brilliant bump. The only thing that would've been better timing-wise is if you bumped on May 8 if Pac beats Mosley. It really doesn't matter, for a Lightweight to come up and do what he's doing and the fashion that he's doing it. No wonder the Mayweather clan thinks he's on PEDs. DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and now Mosley...in early of 08 if you said this you'd be ridiculed.

Lol brilliant bump. The only thing that would've been better timing-wise is if you bumped on May 8 if Pac beats Mosley.

Would Berto or Ortiz make it out 4-0 with that line up? Even the current versions of those fighters?

And to think two years later, Manny would of fought and most likely beaten all of them... To the haters' eye, Manny is still garbage... smh. this is why flomos are the dumbest mofos

in two years pac has taken out the top 4 ranked welters in the world ranked at the time, yet haters still hate since when does someone move up in weight classes to cherry pick lol retarded floyd nut huggers

The 2009 rankings is what Floyd Mayweather hid from. During that period Pac cleaned up but left out Mosley were was actually number 1 at WW

Damn! Pacquiao cherrypicked all the fighters above him. That's just the kind of guy he is, he moves UP in weight and "cherry picks" dudes wranked above him. Man boxing needs more "cherry pickers" like that. It don't matter because they're all old/shot now. Who cares if that list is from only 6 months before Pac started taking them on, they all suck now that Pac has/will fight them! No they weren't now ur just acting stupid. Cotto and clotty had just fought each other and while it was a close fight it wasn't the kind of war that would take anything out of either of them. Some people had cotto winning that fight and pac beat the **** out of him. Other people had clotty winning that fight and pac made that guy look like an amature. Don't try to rewrite history. And Haton wasn't old or washed up when he got him some, and dude ended up getting retired. Either some people really can't remember what was going on when those fights went down or their hate just makes them fantasize up some **** that never happened. He fought them little by little. Mosley after coming off a loss and a draw. Margarito coming a loss and a win over a journeyman, Clottey coming off a loss, Cotto was the best guy he fought there, at 145. Marg had just came back from a long ass suspension and didn't look good in the fight before pac, but he didn't lose. He looked pretty good in the ring when he did finally face pac, but he got out classed. Lets wait to see how he looks in the future before we try to write that performance off as well. U would thing marg is a bum the way some of u fools talk. He cheated, got caught, and now is trying to come back. Lets not forget how he looked before he cheated though, dude isn't an easy fight for anyone. And half the people who saw cotto/clottey had clottey winning that fight, ur being disingenuous.

It don't matter because they're all old/shot now. Who cares if that list is from only 6 months before Pac started taking them on, they all suck now that Pac has/will fight them! Do you expect them to preserve themselves while they wait for a lightweight to move to welter? Of course not, they fought each other, and sadly, according to some, they are now considered "bums" by doing so...

4 names in the TOP 4 and it only took 2.5 years to accomplish it. Not good enough. To please the haters, he should've fought them all in the same year. That's what Floyd did. Right?

On the ESPN scroll on the bottom of the screen... Ring Magazine Welterweight Rankings 1. Shane Mosley 2. Miguel Cotto 3. Antonio Margarito 4. Joshua Clottey 5. Manny Pacqiao it should be 1. Shane Mosley 2. Miguel Cotto 3. Antonio Margarito 4. Joshua Clottey 5. Juan Manuel Marquez or Hatton? And to think two years later, Manny would of fought and most likely beaten all of them... To the haters' eye, Manny is still garbage... smh.

that fagg0t never paid his bet with me either...he came back as JK7000 or something like that So he came back afterall? I always thought he was earl hickey before :lol1:

Damn! Pacquiao cherrypicked all the fighters above him. He fought them little by little. Mosley after coming off a loss and a draw. Margarito coming a loss and a win over a journeyman, Clottey coming off a loss, Cotto was the best guy he fought there, at 145.