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10 million dollars to Wilder, for a over billion dollar fight is a joke. This fight is going to be huge, to of the best heavy weight fighters of this generation both with massive KO power going at it for all the marbles, with each fighter big in their own country fighting for the titles, will be huge Because people haven't seem a great heavy weight fight in years and with both men having that kind of power will generate billions book it, with sponsors and PPV, and the gates, they will be generating billions of dollars. Both boxers shouldn't take no less then a 125 million dollar split the first time around and the rematch should be a 150 million dollar split, otherwise they are getting cheated. Then fight 3 they should get Floyd and Pac money, 250 million dollar or a 200 million dollar split, they are probably going to charge 100 dollars for this fight. 50 million for Wilder and 75 million for Joshua, If the fights in England and If the fight is in Vegas vice versa 75 million for Wilder and 50 million for Joshua Then move the rematch to England, home team gets the bigger split. I wouldn't take that money they are offering right now, he's just low balling Wilder because he's trying to say no one knows who Wilder is and that's not true European fans of boxing know who the big boys are and other less known fighters they love their boxing and drinking.

When you get older your brain functions start slowing down with age some faster then others especially with the constant head trauma, we call it getting shot as a fighter, an older person who doesn't take so much brain trauma will keep their reflexes and timing better and longer then a professional fighter. So the punch you don't see and can't react to hurts you later in age being a pro fighter. Cotto just couldn't get out of the way of Ali"s power punches so he was hurt more then when he fought Canelo. Also Ali and Conelo came from the same weight class so i doubt Canelo hits that much harder at 155 then Ali does it's just Cotto is getting older and is getting hit and his brain has damage so he gets hurt even more. Proof Roy Jones jr getting knocked out when losing his reflexes . Proof Sugar Ray Lenard getting knocked out not being that old against Terrible Terry Norris, why? losing his reflexes faster then normal in boxing. Proof Riddick Bowe already suffering from brain trauma at the age of 31 fighting Golota 1 and 2, then after fight 2 showing crazy fast brain damage from boxing at 31 years old having to retire from the sport. Or it just could be Ali hits as hard or harder then Canelo and it's Ali"s hand speed that bothered Cotto and he couldn't move his head fast enough to doge the punches. Maybe Cotto and his Doctor sees systems of brain damage and told him he should retire, because he looked pretty sharp last night and looks like he has a couple of more years left and could win a rematch, but his brain damage slow speech and reflexes could be coming slowly, so Cotto decided to call it quits.

We have 2 heavy weight champions with 99% knock out power and people love the big boys fighting, even more then the little boys, they will pay to watch the fight. Now you have to build the mega fight up with both fighters on the same card, like Floyd and Canelo did. Once non diehard fight fans get to know who these 2 champions are, you can sell the fight to everyone. Until then they have to build the mega fight up, make the fight and bring in Billions of dollars like MCgregor and Floyd did and they all can get even richer. Until then they both will talk trash and make up stories about whose duckling who and talk even more trash about each others wives, mothers, kids and anything they can think of and their fans will do the same.

When Floyd beat hm and Manny being everyone that wanted to see Floyd humbled and knocked out and even ESPN and world wide sports networks and some of his fans, talking major trash and calling Floyd a chicken and starting racial slurs and typing hate speech on message boards and they are actually all basically gone from every message board and the only ones who are left are, real Manny fans who are actually respected. Then when the fight happened and Manny got sent to school, everyone who was just a Floyd hater stop watching Manny and when he lost to Hurn they just disappeared because no need for their rematch with Floyd and Manny is done to them. Then to them MaCgregor was the next Floyd destroyer, but real fans actually laughed at this. Now Manny will more then likely win another world title and hopefully retire and take care of himself and we true boxing fans and not just fighter fans still watch him and love him, but don't want to see him get hurt. So the bandwagon fans just disappear when their so called Floyd destroyer got beat and ESPN and other networks ate crow and stopped chasing Manny around and the hype died. But Manny got seriously paid because of himself and Floyd and those fans who wanted to see him humble Floyd. Even when Manny got knocked out they still came and him and Floyd split the biggest single day payday in sports history unless i am wrong, then correct me, because i don't know of a single sport that pays 75 million and over for one days work.

I also love when these, i only date or have perfect women and say she's ugly or her breast are to big and she's 50 pounds over weight, while they are searching for her sex tape or other picks and they have a 200 pound wife at home, when they used to be the school pretty boy and still works out and looks the same. But criticizes every fine sexy young lady that are posted on threads, claiming none of them are good enough for me, while hiding their 200 pound wife and claiming they can't go for drinks with fellow posters who live in the same city as them.:beerchug::fu2: Busted :boxing: Hahahaha

She looks like she's already been poked several times already, even only being 19 and the way she dresses for being filthy rich and could afford the finest clothing, she dresses like she's advertising her ass to anybody who wants it. and will probably get pregnant in a year and have her own reality show in 6 months. Because somebody has to replace those Kardasians anyway and she fits the mold perfectly.

I think Hopkins corner"s game plan was to attack Oscars body, because they knew something and Oscar wasn't really a strong big fighter for his size and only had real susses with smaller opponents and for actually being 5"11, people ask like me, why couldn't he fight at middle weight and super middle weight and Hopkins and his team believed, Oscar was very weak strength wise, because Trinidad had no problem moving up in weight, to actually take Hopkins and Roy Jones deep into their championship fights and even going all 12 with Roy, and win the middle weight title earlier. Body shot shout, was letting Oscar know what's coming and we know your body is weak and your core strength abdominal muscles are not going to take this bod shot. Also these fighters are so heavy handed and hit so hard, because of their constant training to develop punching power they generate so much force that a simple looking body shot that we would land, is actually ten times more powerful when they land the same punch, it's like me throwing a right hand and landing on you and then Roy Jones hitting you with the same right hand and let's say he holds back, my right would hurt but his right even held back could brake bones in your face and knock you out or even kill you.

Hell no Ward is on A level of skills and GGG is on B level of skills, even GGG daddy Kovalev doesn't want anything to due with Ward, what makes you think Kovalev"s son wants some revenge or something and gets killed LOL, Ward would actually school and embarrass GGG like he did to Kovalev.

GGG gets no credit because we as true boxing fans and some of us actually box and train in martial arts and boxing or jujitsu actually know that being a professional fighter and taking a 2 year layoff and being retired and not being that good but elusive in the ring a long time ago, that your skills actually fade and without constant sharpening and fights at that high level and when you move up and fight the middle weight champion who hits like a mac truck you better be in tip top shape and not retired and just a okay 154 pound fighter who used to be slick, buts that's it.

Nobody hates GGG we just want to see him fight someone who's actually really talented and on his level and we are not talking Canelo who isn't a true middle weight and is actually to small. Let's see what he does against Charlo, who's a true middle weight that can actually fight and is also destroying everyone and has knock out power himself and if GGG beats Charlo then everyone should shake his hand and give him his due props, because Charlo should be his true test. I honestly think Charlo exposes GGG and beats him up and knocks him out, because GGG will exchange with Charlo and will get hurt bad, he trust to much in his power and won't be able to out box Charlo.

It's not about who beat who quicker or did more damage, it's about boxing abilities and boxing IQ,and not this brute strength, power punching techniques we see. Manny lost to Horn because he's a jump in and jump out flurry of power punching fighter that doesn't have good defense when he's put under extreme pressure, Manny just holds his hands to his face and takes power shots. Crawford is a offensive / defensive fighter with Whitaker type defensive footwork and head movement that can fight going forward, backwards and side to side, while countering you with great power punches. Spence jr is a flat footed power puncher, that uses his size and strength to over power his opponents, while getting hit with counter punches and thinking he could simply take them, Spence is just a Julian Jackson of this generation of boxers, but with a better chin, until he gets really tested. Crawford beats Spence because Spence and everyone else will think Spence just overpowers Crawford, just like most thought that Chavez Sr would overpower Whitaker, but Whitaker used footwork and defensive techniques to beat Chavez and Crawford will do the same to Spence jr and stop Spence or get a knockdown in their fight because Crawford is the superior smarter fighter with better boxing skills and better defensive techniques, while Spence is the stalking power punching / Julian Jackson type of seek and destroy you fighter. Crawford will beat everyone at 147 and 154 and Spence is number 2 at 147, but Charlo is giving Spence trouble and a war at 154, because of styles and boxing abilities, their fight would be like a Julian Jackson war type of power punching exciting fight, until someone gets knocked out. Also Horn got beat because he's this generations Ricky Hatton, who can take a better punch then Ricky can but still can't truly box and change his style and use defensive counter attacks while using offensive pressure attacks.

Not only did he destroy what was left of Manny Duckquiao dignity since he failed May2nd 2015...... Horn made Manny duck the rematch The ultimate cherrypick gone wrong. Usually there is at least a rematch to prove it was a fluke. Nope. Went from a school teacher to a certified bully overnight. Damn. Brutalized Manny left him bloody THEN IMMEDIATELY CALLED HIM OUT! Manny blamed Jet lag after the loss.....now that's an ass whoopin! Lol What other fighter who came from such humble beginnings went on to accomplish such a daring feat since 2010? FLOYD? - Yeah I agree but FLOYD is already TBE. (No need to rub it in he never needed FOTD) No one else comes close. Canelo? - peds GGG? - schooled by Jacobs, ducked Ward, lost to Canelo Loma? - SALIDOE Tearing down all racial barriers in boxing - uniting fans for a greater good. Rid the sport of drug cheats one at a time. Hard not to root for the guy. .............................................................................. Dude are you on sumpthin :buttkick::loser::bsflag:

Davis is going to walk threw loma, Loma doesn't like body shots and pressure at all and can't adjust to it and its this kids time, Davis is the next big thing if he doesn't get lazy and doesn't train correctly. Salito fight should of showed you that but your drinking the Kolaid.

Every fighter has their specific weakness. It could just be a certain style, their chin, conditioning, or power. Floyds weaknes was strong pressure fighters like Maidana and busy fighters with good jabs and length like Oscar, from what i have seen. James Toney"s weakness was his eating habits dedication and hiding his flaws with over confidence. Tyson was mentally weak and hid this with intimidation and being a crazy bully, but if you push and attack him and make him fight, just like Evander did, you will make him fight stupid and frustrated. My take on Loma is he doesn't like inside rough fighters like Chavez and other Mexican style Ricky Hatton fighters and folds under extreme hardship and pressure, if he's relaxed and in control he's perfect, but you chase him, making him fight inside he's toast and will lose again.

You think he folded under pressure vs salido?...at the end of the fight it was Lomachenko almost knocking Salido out...not the other way around. He has found an answer and that trick will not work again against him believe me. First time going 12 and he learned on the job. If you cant see he has improved alot since then idk what to tell you.... Salido isn't that good to begin with look what Marquez did to him, the fact that Loma was in that kind of trouble against Salido questions his boxing skills and if they are at Floyd and Whitaker type level, and this is what everyone is claiming, so i just simply question it and want to see more from him, but no doubt he's legit world champion level, but Whitaker and Floyd level is truly great and a table with not to many seats filled and alot of empty chairs, because they are hard to fill. You have to show me. :boxing::popcorn:

Marquez also was fighting his 46th professional fight compared to Loma's 2nd fight. Salido didn't have near the experience level in 2004 as he did in 2014 either he's a guy that came into his own years after the Marquez fight. If you look throughout Boxing history many greats lost early fights and to fighters far less accomplished than Salido. Arguello, Marquez, Armstrong, Hopkins etc; we are talking all-time greats with losses to nobodies. I will give you that everyone knows Marquez is a Mexican legend and a legit all time great, but i just think Davis is slaying Goliath Loma and doing it with inside body work and intelligent pressure and that's my pick. :thinking::nutkick:

3 rounds and Davis quits on his stool after hitting pure fresh air. The kids not in the same league he would get embarrassed and he's the sort the let that embarrassment get to his head.. get frustrated and do something silly. That was all a factor and every professional fighter at some time in his career, gets hit with illegal punches and wrestled and cheated while fighting, hell Maidana did the exact same thing to Floyd in their fight. But what i saw in Loma vs Salido was how he reacted to inside pressure Mexican style body and head attacks, just like Chavez was doing to everyone and Loma doesn't fight well against pressure, he fights well and comfortable against boxers and boxer punchers and Davis is a attack and destroy body punching rib braking knock out tank and hits like a mini Mike Tyson and that's bad business for Loma. :sombrero::boxing:

With the way Wilder dug deep and got that knock out against Ortiz and with Wilder's cray punching power and with Joshua Knocking out Klitchko, with the upp- cut from hell. Your actually looking at a Billion dollar fight money making wise and they know everyone is waiting for the kings of boxing the Heavy Weights to entertain them because everyone loves incredible fights like Riddick Bowe a Evander. And they offer Wilder 12 million, while Hearn will probably earn bank and Joshua will earn 50 to 75 million and both Wilder and Joshua could actually split 200 million like Mayweather and Manny and everyone else still got richer. Also Floyd made 300 million against MaCgregor and everyone else and the UFC still made millions and they actually want to pay him again and probably even more money and everyone is calling Wilder stupid for saying screw you and your cheating ass. So you fall for the Kolaid about nobody will pay and watch because that's bull crap and team Joshua and team Wilder knows this. Both Wilder and Joshua should actually be splitting 200 million dollars, because they will charge 100 dollars for this fight just like Floyd vs Manny.

WILDER PROOF OF $50,000,000 CONFIRMED BY JOSHUA'S TEAM | ANOTHER EXCUSE FALLS BY THE WAYSIDE http://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...agreement-amid-ongoing-talks-eddie-hearn-says Wilder's $50million offer, validated by his representative Shelly Finkel, brought the fight "closer", according to Hearn, who was not presented with official paperwork to strike a deal. "I will go back with some very simple questions, which hopefully they can answer, to put us in a position to know whether it is worth talking," Hearn said earlier this week. "We sent them night," Hearn said. "They can't not answer those questions. "I believe they want to make the fight." Anthony Joshua vs Deontay Wilder is "70 per cent" likely to happen after "positive conversations" in the past 24 hours, revealed promoter Eddie Hearn. Negotiations to agree an undisputed world heavyweight title fight between the unbeaten champions ramped up last week when Wilder offered Joshua $50million to fight. Asked how likely the fight was to be agreed, Hearn exclusively told Sky Sports: "70 per cent.

They all know Canelo controlled the fight counter punched the hell out of GGG and made him miss, the only thing GGG was doing better was jabs, Canelo even did more body work then GGG. Punch stats even tell you Canelo landed more power punches, and more body shots, but GGG landed more jabs and where i am from, someone doesn't win a fight landing less power punches and body shots, but only landing more jabs. Also like everyone had seen, GGG didn't want to fight Mexican style and kept moving backwards and shackling his head after getting rocked, while Canelo was moving forward and backing GGG up. They see what they want to see because it's a close fight maybe 2 round sway either way to most because fans want to give GGG the benefit of doubt, so they take advantage of this and claim GGG got robbed when the fight wasn't close and I had GGG only winning 4 rounds 8-rounds to 4 rounds Canelo. But maybe some rounds could've went both ways and the better jabbing in certain rounds gave GGG more rounds, like the judges 115 to 113 Canelo and then certain fans saw it a draw. But this fight was great but GGG lost and Canelo actually fought him not backing up and traded while GGG was gassing and looking worried as hell. Canelo won rather easily, but could've shut him out with more body punches and jabs, the jabs made the fight seen closer then everyone thought. Rematch Canelo works on his jabbing counters and leads more while throwing more body shots easier win next time.

Biggest mistake he could ever make is taking a few months off, he seriously needs to take a month off and get his ass back in the gym and work on defensive techniques without getting hit from sparring partners, because of his concussion, this isn't difficult to do in sparring and pressure situations while training and this will improve his legs and stamina problems He needs to work on head movement and abdominal core strength and maybe developing a defensive style like Winky Wright, to protect his chin and catch and counter off, of Winky"s defensive style like he was able to do. Tape his gloves to his head and make him move his head, James Toney style at least from side to side. He can become world champion again easily, because Alvarez isn't that good and was getting beat and Biv, isn't tested yet.

Anyone who says Kovalev can't box and wasn't any good doesn't now boxing and couldn't see him actually hanging with Ward and beating him at times in both fights, also Ward is a Olympic Gold Medal winner, cleaned out 160, won the super six, quit easily and hasn't loss like in forever, i think sense he was 10 years old. Kovalev was out boxing Ward at times and both fights were close, if only Kovalev did his abdominal exercises correctly and had stamina, that fight would've been super close, just like the first fight was and it's his fault that happened, now he's got the chance to fix those mistakes and be champion again and clean out 175, then ask for the Ward rematch. But he won't even do this and keep training the same way, then get stopped again and retire. Also he would probably lose to Ward again, because Ward is just a smarter boxer then Kovalev and that's a fact, also Ward would find another way to beat Kovalev in another rematch, Ward might just fight Kovalev inside toe two toe, rough him up style and take Kovalev"s legs away, this way, then knock him out, these fighters will figure out multiple ways to defeat you in tough fights, then make it easy, just like Floyd and other high ring IQ fighters. But Kovalev is no joke and there's nothing wrong with losing to Ward, only if you actually put in all the true hard work and not leave it in the gym, just ask Floyd about putting in actual real work in camp and doing two a days and 40 minutes of sparring with no rest and only a water break at times, going against 3 sparring partners for 40 strait minutes, Kovalev you need to talk to Floyd and get advice on actual training camp preparation and hard work. Until then, your going to simply keep getting stopped, until you retire and that's a fact.

Floyd's flaw was staying on the ropes to long and trying to make someone miss, while on the ropes when countering and setting up his shoulder roll and trying to make fighters burn themselves out, trying to pressure him and knock him out. Example Victor Ortiz and his pressure while Floyd being against the ropes, even landing against Floyd and Oscar and his combination attack while he was scoring points against Floyd on the ropes, thinking of certain counters and Cotto and his attack and Floyd on the ropes getting busted up and bleeding and the last one, Maidana and Floyd spending to much time on the ropes trying to get Maidana to burn himself out, but Maidana had great conditioning and didn't fold and this cost Floyd rounds and almost a robbery, it was when Floyd used his legs then Maidana couldn't do nothing, but eat punches and complain about running. You ever notice Floyd didn't pull the ropes thing against Canelo, because of Canelo"s power and strength and Floyd wouldn't take that chance, so Floyd would just slip and slide off the ropes making Canelo miss punches, keeping him in the center of the ring, the whole fight. So Floyd"s main and only weakness was fighting off the ropes for to long and getting tagged and hurt, just watch the Floyd vs Chop chop Corley fight and against Zab Judah when he also rocked Floyd on the ropes like Corley and others. Also notice Floyd never played that ropes game against Diego Corrales, when Floyd shut him out. For those who say Mayweather had problems with balance, simply incorrect, Mayweather had the best balance in the history of boxing, his footwork and balance was insane. Punching power incorrect, Floyd had enough power to back up and stop Canelo who just went toe to toe against GGG and even GGG hurt Canelo just like Floyd but not worse. Maidana should've tried to fight Floyd on the ropes the full fight and could've won and stolen it, just by keeping busy and using a constant attack, same thing with Judah and attacking Floyd against the ropes, but Floyd"s ring IQ and skills wouldn't allow this and Floyd"s number one strength was his Boxing knowledge and in ring IQ adjustments and strategy, not speed not power, but in the ring, boxing intelligence and adjustments, strategy.

You fanboys over hyping fighters again LOL Usyk is overrated and easy to beat, if you actually train against him and not play around and get lazy and stupid in the ring, because he's actually strong and can punch, other then that, his power, everything else is total crap. Usyk telegraphs his attack like crazy and is wide open for counters, like a pull right hand counter attack and a shoulder roll along with a serious jab and body work he's flat footed and his footwork is crap, but he does cut the ring off. Usyk is a mCdonald's courtier pounder with cheese with great fries, but everyone is telling us he's actually a double double from IN & OUT burger and a seriously sick greatness, Neapolitan shake with animal style fries. If Bellew took this guy seriously and trained his ass off, he would've out pointed this guy, but even winning the fight, Bellew played around dropped his hands and ran out of gas and just got caught, simple as that. The top heavyweights division will toy with this happy meal a prove nobody beats a double double from IN & OUT Burger and don't get me started with their four by four or their Animal style burger. Andrea Ward toys with this guy for 12 rounds making him miss and countering the hell out of this guy, easy work and all the belts, another weight class while winning the belts and making history. Ward come out of retirement and school this clown and shut everyone up and teach them what real boxing skills and abilities are, people still overrating non skilled hype jobs. then getting humbled.

Weight and Strength won't beat Crawford, it will have to be skills, because Crawford is walking around at 177, pounds. That means he's going to have to lose 30 pounds, to fight at 147, it will have to be skills that beats Crawford not muscle, strength and weight. 30 LBS!!! TERENCE CRAWFORD CURRENTLY WEIGHS 177 MUST LOSE 30 POUNDS TO GET TO WELTERWEIGHT (EWW) https://youtu.be/FPGoIq2jEfA The only fighters that would have the skills to beat Crawford are Spence Jr and Brooks. If I missed anyone else please let me know.

Wilder fights like his name wild, he throws terrible combinations flinging his arms and doesn't even try to go to the body at all, but he does have crazy punching power, but he's very gun shy going up against solid fighters and got lucky tonight, but against Joshua he's going to really be gun shy because he knows Joshua will and can tear his head off and Joshua is to technically sound, throws great combos with incredible power, throws great body shots and has a good inside fighting game and he's putting Wild windmill Wilder to sleep.

Wilder will not throw any punches against Joshua and their fight will be just like Wilder vs Ortiz, with Joshua winning every round and eventually knocking Wilder out early around 5 rounds. Wilder is to gun shy against better boxers that he fears and can't outbox. Just like he was against Ortiz tonight.

Remember there's a counter to a counter to everything and then Fighting comes down to athletic abilities and speed, timing and chin, heart, stamina, age and the will to win, or how much punishment you can take, or is willing to take. Boxing an opponent that can't shut your offensive attacks down and you can't shut his offensive attacks down, then this becomes a chess-match Watch Sugar Ray Lenard vs Hearn"s and Riddick Bowe vs Holyfield and Lennox Lewis vs Klitchscko, all of those fights came down to Heart and chins, stamina and speed and so on.

GGG couldn't cut off the ring all that well against Canelo (a slickster) and he was hitting air for the most part, how would he do it against Saunders, who has better footwork than Canelo and is faster? I think many are underrating Saunders. Because Canelo knows how to stop GGG"s offensive attack by stepping over and sliding off the ropes like Floyd. Floyd knows how to counter Canelo"s Mexican style and slide off the ropes and stepping over pivoting his foot and countering the Mexican style footwork of cutting off the ring. Pernnel Whitaker was a master at this, he did this against Chavez. Canelo learned allot of his, Floyd / Mexican, mixed style from copying Floyd and using the Mexican style of boxing mixing the two styles together. then used it against GGG. Lemuiex doesn't use a jab or cuts off the ring whatsoever he just chases fighters around the ring. Watch fighters fight Hector Camacho and look lost and terrible chasing him around not knowing proper footwork to counter him. Then watch Chavez destroy Camacho using proper countering footwork from the Mexican style and Chavez destroys Camacho easy with no hard work. Then watch Chavez use the same Mexican style and footwork against Whitaker and watch Pernnel Whitaker counter the hell out of Chavez, making him look silly and shutting him down and you will get your answers. Some Boxers know how to counter other Boxing styles and other Boxers don't and can't counter other styles because they weren't taught this or just can't learn it. This is why.

The truth is Saunders isn't that good and Lemuiex isn't that good, It's just that Saunders is better then Lemuiex. Lemuiex has trouble cutting off the ring against Saunders, because of Saunders quick feet, Lemuiex doesn't know how to set-up traps like Chavez Sr, who was a master at this, the only fighter that shut Chavez down was another all time great Pernnel Whitaker and there's no shame in that. Other fighters that gave Saunders trouble could cut the ring off watch the Saunders vs Eubank jr fight, Eubank"s jr did a better job fighting Saunders and almost beat him because of knowing how to stop Saunders quick feet movement by cutting off the ring. GGG will beat Saunders by knockout, because he will set-up traps and take away Saunders movement, like Eubank jr and do a better job of it, unless GGG has already lost his skills due to age, because GGG has already knocked out counter punching slick Boxers like Saunders before and is a better fighter then Eubanks is. The Mexican style works on cutting off the ring against slick quick footwork fighters religiously and making them fight an inside brutal fight with brutal body shots and head shots, to take their legs away and then stopping them, Chavez Sr vs Taylor fight. Chavez vs Hector Camacho. Saunders & Lemuiex are not your what we call elite champions or on that top level, they are the 2 levels below this. Just like GGG isn't on Roy Jones Jr or Floyd"s Level GGG is 1 level below them, GGG is on the Level with Canelo Alvarez, just below Floyd.