Lemuiex was praised as this great 160 fighter(even tho he had been ko'd by Rubio of all people) by some but just got schooled by Saunders..So which is it?
Nobody praised Lemieux as a "great" fighter. He's good, very good. Saunders is the worst possible style for him. He's longer and more mobile. It's similar to Barrera - he's proven that he's good (albeit chinny) fighter, but he looked slow as molasses against Ward.
Saunders has proven previously that he's good. He beat Eubank, who's currently the favorite for SMW supremacy, and he beat Lee, knocking him down.
Saunders was severely out of shape and annoying. But unless you have memory of a goldfish, everyone knew that he's good.
Co-sign... Saunders size and movement are a pure nightmare for golovkin or canelo
I think he might be too fast and too much southpaw, but Golovkins work rate will cause problems. I would expect a close fight.
Remember there's a counter to a counter to everything and then Fighting comes down to athletic abilities and speed, timing and chin, heart, stamina, age and the will to win, or how much punishment you can take, or is willing to take. Boxing an opponent that can't shut your offensive attacks down and you can't shut his offensive attacks down, then this becomes a chess-match
Watch Sugar Ray Lenard vs Hearn"s and Riddick Bowe vs Holyfield and Lennox Lewis vs Klitchscko, all of those fights came down to Heart and chins, stamina and speed and so on.
Lemieux was overrated, and Saunders was underrated. People can call me crazy, but I'd take Saunders over GGG at this point.
Co-sign... Saunders size and movement are a pure nightmare for golovkin or canelo
GGG couldn't cut off the ring all that well against Canelo (a slickster) and he was hitting air for the most part, how would he do it against Saunders, who has better footwork than Canelo and is faster?
I think many are underrating Saunders.
Because Canelo knows how to stop GGG"s offensive attack by stepping over and sliding off the ropes like Floyd.
Floyd knows how to counter Canelo"s Mexican style and slide off the ropes and stepping over pivoting his foot and countering the Mexican style footwork of cutting off the ring.
Pernnel Whitaker was a master at this, he did this against Chavez.
Canelo learned allot of his, Floyd / Mexican, mixed style from copying Floyd and using the Mexican style of boxing mixing the two styles together. then used it against GGG.
Lemuiex doesn't use a jab or cuts off the ring whatsoever he just chases fighters around the ring.
Watch fighters fight Hector Camacho and look lost and terrible chasing him around not knowing proper footwork to counter him.
Then watch Chavez destroy Camacho using proper countering footwork from the Mexican style and Chavez destroys Camacho easy with no hard work.
Then watch Chavez use the same Mexican style and footwork against Whitaker and watch Pernnel Whitaker counter the hell out of Chavez, making him look silly and shutting him down and you will get your answers.
Some Boxers know how to counter other Boxing styles and other Boxers don't and can't counter other styles because they weren't taught this or just can't learn it.
This is why.
Not surprised to see this scab on his knees in worship.:lol1:
The bar is set much higher for Black fighters.
For obvious reasons.
I doubt somebody like you would give a Black fighter credit for beating David Lemieux..:lol1:
So Saunders has white privilege now?
Dude, seriously...he grew up on a caravan site.
Stop acting like a victim, its embarrassing.
Saunders has always had the skills. He's a gypsy so has been around the game all his life, has a solid amateur background, won a medal at the Olympics etc. What always let Saunders down was his fitness and dedication. If he stays in the gym he's a tough fight for anyone.
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Lots of salt from our black and brown NSB brothers for BJS.
Saunders has the sweet science, proving it is not limited to the African American.
He has never been down, as an amateur or a pro.
Lemuiex relies too heavily on his power which is easily negated by boxing skill. It was an easy win for Saunders, but the exhibition he put on was brilliant. He's underrated for sure, and still doesn't get credit for beating Eubank.
Lemieux is not a bum, he's just never been special. Saunders but on a quality performance but you can only rate it so much against Lemieux.
I'd say Saunders is a good fighter but he's not near p4p quality imo.
But he's 28 and in the same division as Canelo, GGG, Jacobs, Andrade and Charlo. He's got plenty of ways to prove me wrong.
BJS is a man.... Respect...odlh is pretty, golden phaggot.
I've seen fire & rain.. I only fear GOD. BJS brings all he's got... Warrior shizit
War BJS
Lemuiex was praised as this great 160 fighter(even tho he had been ko'd by Rubio of all people) by some but just got schooled by Saunders..So which is it?
I'm gonna rematch and hollar back
"Lemuiex was praised as this great 160 fighter"
Never saw that. I see him as being rated as a good, very strong middleweight who isn't on the level of Golovkin, Alvarez and Jacobs, and that's basically all I see him as. He has one dimension and he's good at it but Saunders turned out to be stylistic poison for him. Saunders put on a great performance, maybe showed up better than ever before and had his number as bad as anyone can have your number.
I agree. Eubank is great at fighters going after him like Canelo but it is another story when the opponent is mobile.
Though TBH of all the MW and SMW out there to beat Saundersm absolute "Nightmare" style is a fellow boxer-puncher in Daniel Jacobs whose longer and taller than him with a lot more power.
That'd be a nice boxing match. I hope we get it next. At the end, I think Saunders will prove to be a level above Jacobs.
GGG didn't cut off the ring as much as he wanted to because he was made tentative of Canelo's counters. He didn't cut off the ring against Jacobs because just like Canelo, they are counter punchers with good power to hurt GGG. He boxed his way to win against Jacobs and 50% of the fight against Canelo were on the ropes.
I hear you. This Saunders, if he stays on point like he did last night, would be the man to beat at middle and supermiddle. I wouldn't even pick Eubank Jr against him now.
Looking forward to his next fight. Won't be GGG or Canelo.
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