Usyk in my opinion is completely and utterly overrated 'He would of been obliterated by a prime David Haye!'. You mentioned Carl Thompson as if he was some kind of bad fighter! Usyk would not have a easy night with Carl Thompson ether....
Tony Bellew was clearly affected by the weight loss moving back down to heavyweight! Because in reality Tony Bellew has never been a Light Heavyweight or Crusier-weight naturally, as a amateur he was fighting as a super-heavyweight. Usyk is a decent well school fighter, but for me his style is too amateur and straight forward! Thus-far in his career, I have seen zero inside fighting ability from him! All I have seen is that? He like's everything at long range, well? At a height of 6"3 lets see how plans on playing the long game with these heavyweights! He is not a big puncher, and his defense thus far has worked against Cruiser-weights! But in the heavyweight division he will have to add some lateral movement 'And evolve his game!' Don't get me wrong, Usyk is a good fighter! I just don't understand the comparison people are making with him and Lomachenko!
Tony Bellew from the first bell look empty inside, and I disagree with the notion that it was one of his best performances! His muscles seemed empty, and he appeared flat to me 'Visibly weak' just like his fights at Light Heavyweight.
Ha ha ... funny stuff!
Lol .. do you think Haye and Holyfield never got hit or lost rounds at cruiserweight?
Haye got ktfo by Carl Thompson at cw, ffs!
Usyk is clearly a better cruiserweight than Haye ever was and there is no reason to think he won't be better at HW too.
Physically, he is naturally bigger, faster and much more mobile than Holyfield, and seems to be able to fight at a higher pace too.
Whether he has the chin, mental toughness and unbreakable will that made Holyfield so difficult to beat at HW remains to be seen.
Usyk in my opinion is completely and utterly overrated 'He would of been obliterated by a prime David Haye!'. You mentioned Carl Thompson as if he was some kind of bad fighter! Usyk would not have a easy night with Carl Thompson ether....
Tony Bellew was clearly affected by the weight loss moving back down to heavyweight! Because in reality Tony Bellew has never been a Light Heavyweight or Crusier-weight naturally, as a amateur he was fighting as a super-heavyweight. Usyk is a decent well school fighter, but for me his style is too amateur and straight forward! Thus-far in his career, I have seen zero inside fighting ability from him! All I have seen is that? He like's everything at long range, well? At a height of 6"3 lets see how plans on playing the long game with these heavyweights! He is not a big puncher, and his defense thus far has worked against Cruiser-weights! But in the heavyweight division he will have to add some lateral movement 'And evolve his game!' Don't get me wrong, Usyk is a good fighter! I just don't understand the comparison people are making with him and Lomachenko!
Tony Bellew from the first bell look empty inside, and I disagree with the notion that it was one of his best performances! His muscles seemed empty, and he appeared flat to me 'Visibly weak' just like his fights at Light Heavyweight.
What I don't understand is why so many boxing fans hold Usyk's achievements to such a much higher standard of excellence than Terence Crawford's after they both have accomplished the very same exact thing? I mean they both have cleaned out their respective divisions by becoming undisputed champions.
In addition, to becoming an undisputed champion; Crawford has held titles in three different weight divisions as well. Yet Uysk gets more praise and accolades but Terrence Crawford does not.
Why? Please help me understand this. I mean I haven't heard or hardly even known of any of the opponents that Oleksandr have defeated to clean out the cruiserweight division or in his career. All I know is that at least two of them were undefeated at the time but I have heard and known of Crawford's opponents though.
I am not saying that Usyk or Crawford are not good fighters because they are. As a matter of fact, both Bud and Ysyk are excellent fighters; However at the same time, I just don't get this hype train over Oleksandr Usyk being a better undisputed champion than Terence Crawford was.
Because they don't understand boxing, there is a difference between following boxing and understanding it.
Ali got lucky that Foreman gassed. Wasn’t a strategy at all!
He's literally a career LHW lmao, he didn't even look like a boxer when he weighed 213lbs, looked like some guy off the street:
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/102/750x445/950170.jpg
Usyk actually rehydrates to around what Bellew weighed in that pic, Bellew doesn't rehydrate at all.
20 of Bellew’s 33 pro fights have been either at Cruiser or Heavy. That’s not a “career light heavyweight” he moved up because he couldn’t make 175.
Also, Bellew was a heavyweight (Cruiser) in the Amateurs. (47 fights)
So that’s 67 fights above light heavyweight, and 13 at light heavyweight. Yes Tony is soft. So is Dorticos and many other boxers. It’s professional boxing not modeling. They know what weight their body performs at better than you.
Looks like you don’t know what you’re talking about.
No way Bellew was gonna win that fight, hurt or not. If usyk didn't stop him, he was about to cruise to a comfortable decision. Why is it every time a fighter starts taking over a fight or adjusting, it's cuz the other guy "gassed out"? Like nothing usyk was doing in there effected bellew...he just got lucky that bellew suddenly couldn't take a punch.
Because they don't understand boxing, there is a difference between following boxing and understanding it.
Briedis looked fine against Usyk's 2nd gear, I'm just not convinced his 2nd gear is all that.
Bellew has already been stopped 2 rounds earlier and actually shut out by Stevenson. He's never been particularly durable or that good for the matter.
He's 35, and hadn't fought at cruiser in 2 years after getting fat at HW. He was practically guaranteed to fade in there. The first clean left hook Usyk landed had him hurt, Usyk has never been a guy to 1 punch KO someone or hurt them like that.
No way Bellew was gonna win that fight, hurt or not. If usyk didn't stop him, he was about to cruise to a comfortable decision. Why is it every time a fighter starts taking over a fight or adjusting, it's cuz the other guy "gassed out"? Like nothing usyk was doing in there effected bellew...he just got lucky that bellew suddenly couldn't take a punch.
That's one way of looking at it...another way is bellew was only competitive with a usyk's first gear. He landed some good right hands, but usyk made adjustments and started catching him. The fight had a "matter of time" feel to it...usyk would start to pull away, and that's exactly what happened. If bellew didn't get stopped, he was in for a beating.
Briedis looked fine against Usyk's 2nd gear, I'm just not convinced his 2nd gear is all that.
Bellew has already been stopped 2 rounds earlier and actually shut out by Stevenson. He's never been particularly durable or that good for the matter.
He's 35, and hadn't fought at cruiser in 2 years after getting fat at HW. He was practically guaranteed to fade in there. The first clean left hook Usyk landed had him hurt, Usyk has never been a guy to 1 punch KO someone or hurt them like that.
That's one way of looking at it...another way is bellew was only competitive with a usyk's first gear. He landed some good right hands, but usyk made adjustments and started catching him. The fight had a "matter of time" feel to it...usyk would start to pull away, and that's exactly what happened. If bellew didn't get stopped, he was in for a beating.
Exactly. The real action began in round 3. At which point Usyk starting taking control. This is such a silly discussion.
Lmao Bellew isn’t a natural cruiser? Haha what is he then?
He's literally a career LHW lmao, he didn't even look like a boxer when he weighed 213lbs, looked like some guy off the street:
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/102/750x445/950170.jpg
Usyk actually rehydrates to around what Bellew weighed in that pic, Bellew doesn't rehydrate at all.
So after two and half rounds of really fighting he broke Bellew. LOL, okay bro good story on how Usyk was bailed out.
What do you mean "really fighting", Usyk was trying to fight the first 5 rounds and was getting out boxed. It took Bellew getting careless at the end of round 5 to get hurt and he eventually gassed. I know, shocking that a 35 year old that hasn't made cruiser in 2 years gassed. Like I said this was the worst version of Bellew in years.
Even Stevenson stopped Bellew faster than Usyk did and actually dominated him unlike Usyk.
It was a full 5 rounds, that's close to half the fight Usyk was losing. Bellew crumpled because he's not a natural cruiser, his body looks soft as **** lol
Lmao Bellew isn’t a natural cruiser? Haha what is he then?
He was down on all the cards until the 5th where at the very end of the round he landed a big left hook that hurt Bellew. Up until that point he was getting nailed with repeated right hands, body shots, couldn't close the distance, could barely land his go-to jab, etc.
Bellew crumpled as soon as he started to get hit and gassed very fast as well. This wasn't even Bellew at his best.
That's one way of looking at it...another way is bellew was only competitive with a usyk's first gear. He landed some good right hands, but usyk made adjustments and started catching him. The fight had a "matter of time" feel to it...usyk would start to pull away, and that's exactly what happened. If bellew didn't get stopped, he was in for a beating.
So after two and half rounds of really fighting he broke Bellew. LOL, okay bro good story on how Usyk was bailed out.
It was a full 5 rounds, that's close to half the fight Usyk was losing. Bellew crumpled because he's not a natural cruiser, his body looks soft as **** lol
lol Usyk landed a big left hook at the very end of round 5 which hurt Bellew, up until that point Bellew was winning and the 5th was close as well.
Bellew gassed and crumpled as soon as he got hit
So after two and half rounds of really fighting he broke Bellew. LOL, okay bro good story on how Usyk was bailed out.
Wilder lost 6 rounds to a cruiserweight who Usyk would beat without raising a sweat!
Who? You're talking about 6'4 230lb Szpilka who could hardly land anything but a handful of punches?
Usyk was getting nailed by Bellew's right hands lol, he got hit waaaay more than Wilder ever did againtst Szpilka.
"Bailed out" . . . SMH.
lol Usyk landed a big left hook at the very end of round 5 which hurt Bellew, up until that point Bellew was winning and the 5th was close as well.
Bellew gassed and crumpled as soon as he got hit
Usyk got bailed out by his power? He was winning the fight and pulling away.
He was down on all the cards until the 5th where at the very end of the round he landed a big left hook that hurt Bellew. Up until that point he was getting nailed with repeated right hands, body shots, couldn't close the distance, could barely land his go-to jab, etc.
Bellew crumpled as soon as he started to get hit and gassed very fast as well. This wasn't even Bellew at his best.
Bellew was literally winning on every single scorecard and up as many as 3 rounds lol, the only person that should be embarrassed is you for thinking Usyk is some monster.
Szpilka landed a handful of punches the entire bout, same with Duhaupas who hardly landed anything but a jab. Still not as bad as getting out boxed by Tony F'ing Bellew lmao.
Bryant Jennings has been ranked as low as #3 in the division, Kownacki is ranked in the top 10 as well.
Your logic is busted lololol, lololol, losing to Cleverly is worse than losing to top 10 heavies?
Bellew was borderline top 10 at LHW and was on his way out of the division had he kept fighting at the weight.
I don't think Usyk is a 'monster'. I'm simply addressing your inane idea that Bellew won 6 rounds. I'm not a fanatic like you who believes Wilder is some 'monstrous' puncher when evidence clearly suggests otherwise.
Are you going to take the challenge and tell me which rounds exactly Bellew won, and show me punches he landed / tell me the second of the rounds that Bellew landed the punches on Usyk that he won in? Or are you going to continue ducking?
The scorecards says Bellew was up by 6 rounds. Therefore it MUST be true? Do you have a functional brain to form your own conclusions? The British scorecards having Bellew ahead doesn't prove he deserved to be ahead.
The only thing you're proving, is how light hitting and powerless Wilder is. Considering Duhaupaas with the just the jab alone (according to your own words), and with far fewer landed punches, practically had Wilder's eye shut and was almost jabbing his eye out. Whilst Wilder, despite landing far more punches, and more specifically, far more loaded up, maximum powered punches, flush on Duhaupas's face by putting everything into those punches, all his body weight, all his energy from his life and soul, equaling nearly 1000 punches in total, yet only managed to cause some minor bleeding on Duhaupas's face with said punches. He couldn't even drop, much less KO Duhaupas with those punches. Heck, he couldn't even discourage Duhaupas from coming forward for the most part of any round. And this is the same Duhaupas who was dropped by a feather fisted cruiser weight inside 6 rounds by a single punch.
What does that tell you about Wilder's punching power? What does that tell you about the quality of Wilder?
You're telling me having your eyes nearly shut by a clown like Duhaupas, whilst winning via premature standing stoppage, in a fight that was even, is better than knocking Bellew spark out whilst barely having a single mark on your face (which is the case with Usyk against Bellew)? Are you for real?
This is the same Duhaupas who lost to freaking fransesco Pianeta (a total journeyman). And also to Erken Tepper (a Turkish Kebab shop owner).
But Usyk losing a few rounds to Bellew is supposed to prove what exactly? The same Bellew who lost to an ACTUAL champion in Adonis Stevenson. Who is WAY better than clowns like Erken Tepper and Fransesco that Duhaupas lost to. And to Nathan Cleverly by close decision. The same Cleverly who is still a lot better than Erken Tepper and Fransesco Pianeta.
You're seriously embarrassing yourself here. Usyk barely had a mark in him after the fight against Bellew. Wasn't even bothered by Bellew's punches for the most part, much less affected. Those few punches Bellew landed, did practically nothing to Usyk, who then proceeded to blast Bellew out of the ring.
Whilst Wilderafter his fight against Duhaupas, looked like he'd been wrecked in a car accident.
Losing a few rounds to Bellew is ASTRONOMICALLY better than nearly having your eye shut by a French pastry chef that is Johann Duhaupas who ate all of Wilder's feather fisted punches like pastry.
But yes, keep embarrassing yourself by thinking Wilder is some monster with monstrous punching power and that somehow Wilder having life and death experiences against total clowns like Duhaupas, is somehow meant to be be brushed away as something that doesn't warrant criticism but Usyk losing a few rounds to a much better Bellew is somehow supposed to prove Usyk has no chance against those heavyweight frauds like Wilder and Joshua.