what super slick hard to hit boxer has floyd faced?.
ide like to see floyd really have to cut the ring down and work to land shots on a slick boxer.
would martinez trouble floyd a lil?
toney can keep yapping about this guy or that guy ducking him,but if he doesnt manage to get a fight with a high rated or ranked highly heavyweight then he wont get any consideration for a title fight.
Arreola looked improved,better balance,more composed,bit faster,the opponent wasnt great but no way was arreola not winning by tko/ko in the first round after that right hand.
the kiss of death/kiss saying i beat you was a random silly thing that im sure arreola confused himself and is thinking "what the f*ck was that for".lol.
but hes honest,he has passion for the sport,he has power and heart.
i would prefer Haye v Arreola next to a povetkin or chageav,not as challenging for haye the other 2.
i think arreola could have given/still could give wlad problems.
Marquez can keep trying to fight pac his way and not win each time becuase he isnt the agressor,he doesnt win enough rounds clearly enough,and his style will never favour mannys style to the judges.
they both just need to go for broke and either go to war to KO/tko the other as soon as they can,or go to war to wear each other down and get a late stoppage win, points and judges scorecards will never settle anything between the two!. :boxing:
cotto seems to be using the cheat thing as motivation to make him believe hele win this time by not getting worn down.
i do think margarito is a natural heavy hitter,and doesnt stop trying/taking punishment,but also possible he was a crazy hitter if using padding to cheat,i think it stemmed from fear of cotto and mosleys power that he was up agiasnt.
one thing that has got me questioning margarito cheating during cotto bout is that in 24 7 cotto states that the padding before mosley fight the padding had red marks on it without gloves being worn ,just as it did after the cotto fight,the excuse of gloves wearing into wraps cant be used if in mosley fight they had those marking before putting any gloves on.why is there the same red mark in the same place from two fights,both before and after the fights?.
and as if they turned up late and grabbed some random hand wraps pre made?,ye sure.
all the we know nothing excuses is lame too.
first off,paulie magic man super hero malignaggi! :rofl:
he would be great sparring,tough as f*ck,slick,sharp fast counter puncher,great ring generalship,just missing the power of marquez.
pac and marquez can fight 103 times and both box to close fights,what they need to do is just go to f*cking WAR, go to forget about points and winning rounds,just get on it and go to TKO or KO each other,thats the only way to settle this sh*t :boxing:
now if floyd doesnt want pac at this point in time,he will NEVER dare fight pacman,so saying that,if floyd dont step up,may aswell make pac v marquez 4.
marquez could fight morales,rios,guerrero,khan?,other light welter champions.
pacman has no one realistic and worthy of fighting now bar marquez and mayweather.
For me,floyd doesnt have what marquez has for combination punching,punch resistance,and sheer b*lls of steel to take the fight to someone in some way. Floyd is very low on punch numbers,and punches per combinations.
floyd will take another come back tune up fight no doubt.
meanwhile pac is fighting someone he hasnt clinically beaten or come close to dominating.
But the thing is neither can go in wanting to box thier way to victory,it will just end up a close split decision,draw like fight each time.
They both need to know that their better off just going to effing WAR!!!! :boxing:
Who ever wins will be due to greater fighting spirit,not skill,and who ever loses knows they gave thier all and entertained the fans at least.
if hadnt have talked and bigged himself up and wound up the bros he wouldnt have got a title shot without having to go through all the ranked heavyweight bums,maybe he should have had a few more fights at heavy and got more experienced and especially with the bigger taller/rangy heavies,then gone for the media hustle to bag the k bros fight.
but i think he mostly had the talent to not have to go the slower long way round to a k bros fight.
not sure how much the injury affected him,but credit to wlad,hes not just tall rangy and cautious,but is extremely talented atheltically with his jab,his range keeping defensive abilties and his power cannot be disrespected.
Haye simply didnt do enough to out point wlad,he let wlad be busier,he let him throw and land more,i actually think haye landed better looking shots and combinations when he decided it was safe enough for him to do so.
Haye as a heavy needs to be busier,needs to jab more to keep busy,to keep guys thinking to set up his bigger punches in his combinations.
his balance and footwork needed improving upon if he was to continue to be on the back foot counter punching.
his hand speed and head movement made wlad very nervous and stopped him being as effective as he is usually vs other heavies.
i think this haye vs this aged vitali,haye can win,he can outbox vital completely,he can make vitali look so useless in missing most shots he tries to land,haye can use so much head movement and come from so many angles to land hard enough shots often enough to cut Vitali up and tko him,hes not knocking him out unless hayes stamina and work rate ups itself. And vitali has less power than wlad cause he does not throw as good a techinically sound punches,he arm punches,he doesnt get full extension and power on his punches like wlad does.
chisora vs wlad would be ugly for chisora,wlad is such a more co-ordinated and well thought out careful boxer.
hmm,smart but also dumb move by del boy.
gets vitali angry,could backfire,but also its mind games that might help chisora be able to land and counter on vitali.
the one thing i will say is vitali and wlad like to fight good fighters while their green and inexperienced,to squash them before they are really ready to fight for a title.
and chisora might have good stamina/conditioning,but he should not bet that vitali will not go toe to toe and dont bet on vitali getting tired either.
ide like to see chisora do well but im not certain of him doing so.
alteast make it exciting and try his best to land some hard shots on that face
dont go for the result,youle get robbed in germany,KO or nothing!
even if its just cuts or forcing vitali to force himself to work so hard he injured himself and quits again!
nah,Bradley will fight Khan.
none of these light welters will get any of the big 3(mayweather,pac,marquez)
Bradley is good,but not a superstar ala Bhop or rjj.
mayweather likes to be confident and sure enough that his style defeats the style the opponent has in front of him.
i believe floyd worries more about how pac has everything needed to beat floyd more than floyd being confident he has the style to defeat pac.
thats bad for paulie,how shit must he feel,the small hall next to the legendary room.
Is he really unknown or really unpopular.
im willing to bet that khan has a nice sized british following there, maybe not the hatton following in numbers and noise,but good.
the thing that get me about the build up is that paulie is the shit talker,but when he gets some back he gets all pissed off!.ha.
paulie to me is good,but i dont see him as someone who has many dimensions and is as skilled smart of adjustable in fights the way floyd is.
I think from seeing that a bloated slow diaz can hit paulie cleanly,then how easy is a fast taller rangyier khan gunna do to him?.
Paulies biggest fights hes lost in them all!.
who is ndou at this weight or in boxing lists?.nevermind who khans fought and beaten,who has paulie fought and beat thats an impressive win over a impressive named fighter?.
i think like brother Naz said before these people like floyd and paulie gotta do a lot of trash talking and wear frilly boxing shorts and have all this hair and accesories to gain interest becuase they cant punch and there style can be boring to people.
i see paulie as actually easy to hit for top people at this weight,he does the same moved again and again,relies on moving clockwise constantly,on using hia left jab to set up everything and barely uses his right hand really.
Paulie hasnt got the pop in his punches to even get much through khans defence,if he really is gunna stand and fight and think he can KO khan then hes guna hit the floor,KO or not i cant be sure though.
Paulies a good guy,but i think khan will prove himself in this one.
and people dont be sayin "he fought a no power puncher,he ducking the hitters" he actually wanted marquez as his first fight!.
paulie was the one who wanted to fight khan while khan chased the marquez fight!.
upp at crazy time in the morning as usual.
think the main event probs wont be on till 3 30 or even 4.
might watch it on stream for the hbo broadcast and use vga cable to have it on the hd tv,but if the streams crap than ITV is a good backup!.
i think Khan wins this easily,he does have natural athletic ability and now is a smarter wiser boxer with a solid gameplan that he can stick to and im sure a plan B also if needed.
Sure he may not have a great chin,but his defence and fast footwork will help ihm out,and his high punch output serves as good weopen for keeping himself even getting any punches back,aslong as hes careful to not get wild.
i think paulie is good,but as a person hes really over doing it with the shit talk,sometimes he can be entertaining but at moment just being a bit of a twat.
I seen a fair few paulie fights several times over,he does the same things every fight,in every exchange,always starts with his left jab,and thats his main weopon,circling clockwise jabbing away,making sure his jab lands before the opponent lands anything,usiing his footwork to back away from any counter punches and stop any fighter sitting on punches.
sometimes he puts a left jab right hand together,and if he feels confident hele put in a right upercut and hook in there to make more than a 2 punch combination.
the true test for khan is can he be on the level of skill that paulie and others are on,and wele see how good his speed and power really is.
do not ever believe any crap that is said from the daily star,its one of those british papers that just spews out lies about everyone,its not a reliable source.
Hayes manager/trainer has already said on sky sports news that they fraudly is not on thier radar,hes not anywhere near Hayes league.
Haye could not train at all never mind not spar for a month and still KO this fraudulant fool.
Haye WILL fight one of the Klits,it will most likey be Vitali,why nto fight the oldest toughest one first for what is percieved by them as the better title then as probably his last fight he will take on wlad for the rest of the titles.
one fight i think will be in las vegas and one will be in the UK or someone where over seas that isnt america or germany.
right know hayes wifeys havin a baby and he wants a bit of a break before jumping into taking on both Klit sisters.(i think also if he cant fight either one soon enough then Go KO adamek and get exsposure in US then Ko both klit sisters.
i think roach will have figured out a good strategy for paulies style.
i see some things he does as very repetitive,very predictable.
anyone knows paulies Jab is his best tool,but ide bet money thta khan has a sharper harder better jab,and that his combinations are faster more accurate and more effective,and that he will have as good as footwork as paulie if not better!.
peopls dislike for amir khan becuase of him being british,or seeming arogant from media portrayal makes them want to believe that paulie can really KO khan.
definate make or break fight for both of them.
will it be high speed chess match,a one sided dominance,or a thriller with both getting knocked down to get back up and go toe to toe.
lot of talkings been done,but talking dont impress me,fighting does!.
paulies wins are not over anyone to brag about,and hes looked messy in fights too.
i wudnt expect paulie to beat kotelnik that fought khan that night,or a faded cut up barrera or prescott.
i think paulie will be in for a shock if he really thinks khans speed and power is over rated,i think actually khan boxes better,has better combinations,higher punch output and just as good movement with a better defence.
paulie should learn to talk less and not look so stupid after he shit talks and loses.
half of these khan quotes are totally made up out of no where by the media,prob frank warren wanting to get amir all unpopular.
amirs no shit talker,hes no Naz Hamed.
paulie always acts like its him versus the world.
ile be suprised if paulie wins this thb.
i do like paulie,but i like amir more.
i think people over rate paulies skills cuz he beat a journyman opponent and then beat a lightweight whos slow with bad footwork and bad defence and not so great power.
khan is bigger,stronger,puts mor punches together in combinations,has a better tighter defence,has good foot work also and is very strict and well disciplined at sticking to a gameplan.
people look past amirs skills cuz he had a good promoter in warren who built him up his record good,and got him to a world title fight soon after a KO loss.
is khan supposed to complain about getting a title shot so soon and being fed a past it barrera?,shud he have slugged away fighting tons of nothing fights to try get up in rankings for a title shot instead.
sure hes confident and has big dreams,that ambition should be respected,give it time hele prove himself worthy.
i got milk baby.
got love for toney too!. hope hes in better shape for schooling a ufc fool.
i think hes focused and serious to make a statement and prove himself again.
hele have the ground game covered,i think the ego of ufc guys will make em stand n trade to prove their tough. and then toney will ko fools,mans super slick with a solid chin and doesnt get too tired.
"i dont care if you flyweight or your momas weight!"
Ali most definately.
but tyson is very smart and honest in his raw and respectable way.
although does he turn up to commentator meetings ect,the chemsistry with merchant lampley and steward would have to work.
hede put em in their place and be too much for them but very entertaining for us the fans.
Ide say ray leonard,naz or roach but there still in too being high demand coaches.
garcia needs to needs to keep the Ko wins over margarito going,then martinez and cotto can get thier revenge and KO this fool and have him have too retire.
floyds does it well and prob if you ask him if hes better than whitiker then thats one fighter he will give respect too.
whitiker is way more entertaining,brilliant looking defense and entertaining offense.
floyd can only be floyd,but i wish he was more pernell!.
i think if he uses his brain and keeps a tight defence at all times he might be ok.
not sure if he has just plain and simple got an awful chin,or if the weight he was at and his frame being of bad proportion and not boxing very smart made it seem worse.
but i respect him for getting up and winning by stoppage and knocking his man down in the very next round,surely someone who gets knocked down to get back up again and win should get some props.
although in this case im not sure if he should have been counted out as he was counted to about 7 or 8 then took a knee,is that legal to take a knee and get the alloted time to be on the knee after the count has already started?.
good vid, shame cant see any sparring or open workout yet from khan.
that guy seems cool,i think khan isnt as arogant as people think or as he is portrayed to be in the media.
i think his ambitions and skill is taken for arogance and cockyness.
Amir seems like a straight up honest polite friendly guy.
all this pre fight talk is just to hype a fight and get into each others heads.
wonder if this guy would give any secrets of the gameplan to paulie seen as hes good friends with paulie??.
Looking forward to a good fight,hope at least early on that its a high paced chess match with super fast combos and counters,then the winner will edge the other guy out on the scorecards.
i think only 3 completed rounds isnt a enough to say someone got totally outboxed,the first few rounds are just each fighter feeling the other one out,nothing should be decided from just 3 and half rounds of boxing where niether guy really got into any gear or major rhythm.
p will may be overated, but until he gets a fight with a mayweather or pac or mosley we wont know.
Mosley is the only brave enough one to even think of taking on the height reach and volume of punches.
look beyond those three things and williams can be outboxed,and even hurt, ide put a small bet on mosley to KO williams if he could get his shots off on p will easy enough and box well not like he did 3 rounds onwards agiasnt floyd by turing off and searching for shots instead of just throwing them,but thats part down to floyd great timing and diffcultly to connect on.