I know Mexican fight fans dont like to admit it...but considering PR population....they will probably always go through spells were there isnt a top/elite talent coming through...there is probably a vast difference between the number of pro PR boxers and pro mexican boxers.....
Vitali Klitschko has never been heavyweight champion nor is he an ATG by any means.
Doesnt he hold a belt right now.......surely he won a belt after Lewis retired......
at least Wlad is fighting Haye.
no way floyd would fight him if in Wlad's position
Not sure how this is relavant to the question, but you may be right, maybe he wouldnt have...but this fight has been in the making for nearly 3 years....
Stop using a persons height as a reason for what divison they should be fighting in...if that was the case, Tyson should be the GOAT, as he was only 5'10" and whipping vastly taller opponents...or if thats the case, Paul Williams should get no credit on who he beats seen as he should be fighting in the Heavyweight division at 6'2".....
Look how much US boxing fans love BHop and he's one of the most boring there is.
News to me....if that was the case...there would have been no reason for BHOP to fight Pascal in Canada...truth is ...BHop doesnt reaaly have much fans anyway.......there was a reason why no network wanted to buy Roy Jones vs BHop 2 last April.....
yeah those dudes get mudholes stomped in them. too bad i couldnt do all that. had to make a get away after i clocked him because i wasnt trying get locked up u know.
I never understood that about some Mexicans (not all, I must state)....when you consider the history of their country, I find it weird how they hate blacks a lot more than whites and laugh at latin countries with black populations.....and kind of make it seem as though they are proud to have spanish in them..considering what the spanish did to them.....
Katsidis would knock you and all your brothers out.
Wat are you lookin at???? :boxing:
You killed this thread bro with that stupid first post...you arent even White American......
At the top is Floyd and Manny..then everyone esle.....
To those who say the Klits....yes they are big draws in Germany and Ukraine...but they wouldnt draw anywhere else.....
Floyd could easily fight in England and do good numbers...I remeber when he went to EWngland to train and the crowds were mega.....
Yet many ppl think he can beat Wlad, will he just be a bum CW when he gets ko'd too like so many other of Wlad's opponents?
I would think that Wlad comes into the fight as the favourite........but lets look at this objectively...what has Haye done in the division to prove he can beat Wlad.....
Its more that people 'want' Haye to win as they feel it will inject some life back into the division
So is he a good fighter who lost to someone better or will he be cast off as a "hypejob" if he loses?
Considering how the fight is being portrayed...I am sure Wlad will get a lot of credit...but I personally wont go completely crazy for it just because Haye hasnt beaten anyone of note in the division beforehand.....
I disagree with your premise.
The reason you say all this, is because you're working under the basis that because The Klitscho's dominate fighters, it must mean that they're not that good. It couldn't just be that The Klitscho's are just that great.
On the other hand, when Ali struggles against some fighter, you don't say that the opponent sucks, you elevate him to Greatness status. I.E. having a competitive fight vs Ali = It must mean the opponent was just that great OR Ali was not at his best/past his prime.
It's a common mental block that people can't even comprehend about themselves, when they're so Historically biased.
The reason is that Ali had great fighters to fight in his era....that boxing writers and journalist claim them to be great.....
If you look at todays heavyweights.....what boxing writer/journalist says that any top ranked heavyweight outside the Klits is a very good fighter
just look at haye...he aintt done sh.it in the division..yet everyone is talking about him....in most other eras...Haye would just be a normal guy moving into the heavyweight division
American boxing fans hate white fighters, I am the exception. Skills are skills.
btw prime vs prime vitali K.O's your favorite black HW in under 8 rounds
Why was he unable to KO OUT OF PRIME Lennox Lewis then......
He was easily beating Byrd, no way Byrd won more than two rounds, "problems" sure......
Him quitting had nothing to do with Byrd at all it could have been any nameless HW in their, he had a shoulder injury in a fight he was dominating.
That shows a lack of heart though.....if Mayweather had pulled that same move..everyone would be laughing at him and calling him a coward (they still do, mind).....IIRC Mayweather also had a serious injury in one of his fights and had to take a knee he was in that much pain...but like A TRUE CHAMP...he continued.......same couldnt be said about Vitaly......
Lets be honest...if Haye was a french man and couldnt speak English...this fight with Wlad wouldnt be hyped at all...in fact it would be more of a Vitaly-Solis build up...........cuz Haye anit done **** yet to prove himself.....
vit has proven himself waaaay more than floyd ever has since. get out of here.
vit learned his lesson and his heart is nowhere near in question
Considering he retired for all those years...its debatable as to whether he has proven much.......
Also..Im not sure what he has done to prove his heart is not in question.....