Since I'm always hearing that African Americans don't support their own fighters, my question is, why doesn't White America support American blacks??
I mean white fight fans will come 10,000 deep to watch Spadafora fight in PA. Spadafora has a typical "slick african american style". So it can't be all about pure entertainment.
White fans also sold out Atlantic City to watch Gatti's fights.
Kelly Pavlik didn't have a problem garnering a fanbase.
So my question again to White American boxing fans is, why don't you support Black boxers?
I'm asking this in retalition to all the "why don't blacks support their own" arguements I've been reading around here lately.
That's not true. To me if you're good you're good. You see what I think what happens is that the people who just stick with or follow only "own kind" is not a true fan of the sport. For me I love the sport first the fighter second. For example, I've been a Pacman fan since 2003. At my job for the last 18 months you see all the filipinos come out the wood work chanting Manny and do not know anything about the fighter or the sport. Trust me I have questioned them. To me when people do that it either shows the lack of intelligence or the amount of ignorance, you tell me.
Since I'm always hearing that African Americans don't support their own fighters, my question is, why doesn't White America support American blacks??
I mean white fight fans will come 10,000 deep to watch Spadafora fight in PA. Spadafora has a typical "slick african american style". So it can't be all about pure entertainment.
White fans also sold out Atlantic City to watch Gatti's fights.
Kelly Pavlik didn't have a problem garnering a fanbase.
So my question again to White American boxing fans is, why don't you support Black boxers?
I'm asking this in retalition to all the "why don't blacks support their own" arguements I've been reading around here lately.
Two notes, typically the first reply would be a racist saying something the lines of "BS, don't pull out the race card, i see where this is going" I didn't even read what the dude said but as he's on my ignore list he must be a racist.
The first and foremost interest of a racist who part of a MAJORITY is to hide racism at all cost and undermine any serious discussion. That's why they are so very sensitive in replying to these threads.
Combat sports motivate favoritism and thereby racism sometimes. If I don't know 2 fighters and they are fighting I'm pulling for my own, it's only natural.
The problem here is some people, not all people, will go out of their way to not only refuse support but to attack fighters who don't represent them PARTICULARLY African Americans. Of all ethnicities, Afrian Americans get the worst of all. Racist whites will support an Asian temporarily to go do the job they wish a white was able to, that's how desperate the racists became. Yes I mean Pacquiao and all the support he apparently has (remember when Cotto got a similar support and you heard my ass saying as soon as he was defeated and looked human people would move on to other grapes?) So now it's Pacquiao. Let him lose and look human and you will see the true size of his band.
The funniest thing of all is that the most racist people of all aren't open at all about it and somehow they think that in this day and age their behavior goes unnoticed.
can't believe i'm the first to say this but the obvious answer is that when you say WHITE AMERICA you are basically describing no one.
a working class white person in boston and a working class white person in indiana will be different in a lot of ways, same thing for any race. sometimes two people with the same background born in the same city can be totally different people. to take the thoughts and ideas of any one man with any one skin color and apply that to every single man on earth with a similar skin color is a most basic racial prejudice, the kind I learned about in elementary school and from my parents
in south america, you have people in colombia or argentia that may look just like people in el salvador or guatemala but if you've met people from these places you will know there are cultural differences even though they are relatively close and look similar in the face
there people in one little corner of the world that have the same skin color as people in another but they are CULTURALLY and CHARACTERISTICALLY different
\ why doesn't White America support American blacks??
This is the heart of your long-winded, idiotic, narcissistic diatribe.
Here's the answer...ready?
If we didn't, McCain would be president. Hip hop never woulda' blowed up...etc...I'm just not even gonna' bother to continue. You get my point (I hope).
Don't be stupid.
I call BULLSH!T on this one and this Thread is probably started by someone who is not even American, he is just ASSUMING how things are in America
White America Support GREAT MATCH UPS a lot more then the do INDIVIDUAL FIGHTERS, White Don't Support Black Boxers? REALLY? Mayweather vs Mosley (TWO BLACK AMERICAN FIGHTERS) was a STAR STUDDED EVENT and it had White Celebrities come out, people who you almost NEVER SEE at a Boxing Event, people came out because it was 2 Americans and 2 Future Hall of Famers
even going further back, Zab Judah vs Mayweather also had a crowd full of celebrities of ALL COLOR
When Mayweather rants about the race side of things, he is talking more about the MEDIA and people like Larry Merchant and all these HORRIBLY BIAS BOXING SITES and Writers that does absolutely Nothing but Bash him and find any reason to not give him credit
Many writers are on Manny's bandwagon not because they think Manny is better, but because Manny is the opposite of Mayweather...but if Mayweather wasn't the A$$HOLE that he is...he wouldn't have made the type of money he made, turning into MONEY MAYWEATHER against Oscar and taking on the "BAD GUY ROLE" was genius, but it also put a lot of pressure on him and developed a lot of haters because some fans just can understand that he does some of the things he do to SELL FIGHTS!
So I think regardless of race, if you give the fans the match ups they want, they will come out, look at the UFC, their Top American Fighters are mostly BLACK NOW (Jon Jones, Rashad Evans, Rampage Jackson), does that mean Whites will stop watching the UFC NOW...NO not as long as Dana White keep giving them the match ups they WANT! Sure it is a few ignorant people who are upset that Blacks are starting to surge in MMA but it is still about ENTERTAINMENT 1st!
So in actuality, Whites might actually be the MOST NEUTRAL FANS by DEFAULT because they don't have many great fighters currently, but when they do get a DECENT FIGHTER they will OVERRATE THE HELL OUT OF HIM just like WE ALL DO REGARDLESS OF RACE
LMAO!
I love your types: a pure racist. So since it's about BLACK and WHITE for you. Let me list the great BLACK fighters of today and then you list the great WHITE fighters of today and lets see how the lists compare.
Shall we:
Floyd Mayweather (pound for pound #1 for over a decade)
Tim Bradley (undefeated world champ)
Andre Ward (undefeated world champ)
Miguel Cotto
Yohnny Perez
David Haye
Bernard Hopkins (all time great)
JuanMa (undefeated world champ)
Yurkios Gamboa (undefeated world champ)
Steve Cunningham
Jean Pascal
Tavoris Cloud
Glen Johnson (hall of famer)
Andre Dirrel
Sakio Bika
Paul Williams
Mike Jones
Wilfredo Vazquez Jr.
Teon Kennedy
Josh Clottey
Joseph Agbeko
Ivan Calderon (hall of famer)
And the one division that has STRONG white representation is being dominated by a BLACK MAN, Andre Ward.
So STFU and learn to stick to the topic aka thread title.
im not white or black, but im a fan of a lot of those fighters.
They do support them, they just don't support them as much. Who do u think r the ones hyping fighters and fights just before a bad performance which leads all of the bandwagoners in the world to cry "over-hyped, over-rated hype-job"
I think there is something primal about boxing than any man regardless of race or nationality appeals to. The thing is nowadays people are overloaded with entertainment from so many different sources that certain things kind of go unnoticed. Like how boxing isn't on national TV anymore but all the other major sports are every day.
And now you have MMA which is taking up alot of "white america's" support because people like to see people get ktfo and its more likely in MMA because of the little gloves and different things you can do like throw elbows and ground and pound.
Boxing is more a acquired taste. It has a deeper and richer history than any sport but its not getting as must publicity as those other sports so its kind've taken a back seat but there will always be those hardcore boxing fans (like most of the people on this site) that watch boxers regardless of color because of skills.
in the 2009 World Amateur Boxing Championships
WHITES DOMINATE
Russia was number #1... with 2 golds,4 silvers, 2 bronze= 8 overall
followed by Italy#2.... 2 gold.. 0 silver, bronze= 2 overall
Cuba- 1 gold,2 silvers, 2 bronze= 5 overall
What will you do when the Klitshkos retire?
My guess is you'll retire with them and turn your attention to full time MUPPET ****!
I will stop trolling this thread because you seem like a kool dude.
Lets just agree that America has more skilled fighters, but no one is more of a warrior than Kats!
Being a 'warrior' doesn't win you fights.
There is a thin line between 'warrior' and lacking skill :)