The_Game4935

I keep this bs that if he was black American, he would be praised beyound all doubt....let me break it to you...it would be the complete opposite..... Firstly, if Wlad was black American, he would not be able to sell out 60,000 stadiums.......Hopkins, who is black American, cant sell tickets in America and has a FAR better resume than Wlad....temm he, who exactly is gonna watch Wlad if he was black American Furthermore, Larry Merchnt would HATE HIS ASS, just like he hates Mayweather...he is constantly on Mayweather for his boring performances and lack of excitment......Wlad would get just as much stick for taking too long to Ko his opponents, lack of variety in his offense etc......and spare the crap about KO ratios....Wlad probably has a higher Ko ratio than Tyson and Pacqauio, but you would never watch a Wlad fight ahead of the two afroemntioned fighter (unless your Tunney of course).....Wlad would also be held to a higher standard, based on the dominance of black/american Heavyweights of the past......IMO, many experts would say that he is not quite up to the standard of the past greats, other than his jab... Why cant Wlad fans just accept that he is quite frankly, boring...in the same way that many fans see Mayweather as boring......

If he is able to stop the guy supposedly ranked 4th at JMM, then surely there cant be any excuses as to why he cant fight the very best in the division.....

Be real, if Wlad was facing a Cuban, African, or fellow Eastern European boxer, who had the same credentials as Haye, the fight wouldnt have had this much exposure....... Yes, Haye may have ducked Wlad in the past, but you cant deny that his trash talk, coupled with his personality has made the fight more intriguing than it should be (considering his heavyweight credentials)

All this garbage about Arum selecting Pacs opponents is stupid..........Arum needs Pac more than Pac need Arum...... Why in the hell would Manny allow Arum to dictate to him who he fights.......

Lets face it....Mosley knew there was no way he was going to win that fight, even before the contracts were signed...... He knew Manny was getting cherrypicked over the hill fighters and saw the opportunity to fight Manny by not staying with GBP........he saw the potential earnings of over 4 million dollars and couldnt resist...... At the end of the day, Mosley is 39...and unlike Margarito.......he knew in his head that there is no fun in getting beat down and breaking orbital bones, just to "show the world Im a warrior"......the facts are that Margarito is struggling to overcome the boxing injuries sustained in the fight....... Simply put, boxers should put themselves first and care more about their health, as opposoed to this "Im a warriror, I fight to the end", while getting your face torn to pieces......Im happy that a 39 year old Mosley is able to recover quite quickly from the fight, take home millions and go home to a fine ass B!itch The ones who should be blamed for this fight is SOLELY Pacs team (Pac, Arum, Roach)...who tried to crap on Mosley after he lost to Mayweather, only to then fight him....

All this "he throws punches in bunches", "he punches from all angles" nonsense goes out the window once he he faces a fighter that is willing to use the whole ring...... Yes he dropped Shane, but why did he not floor Shane in any of the other rounds...........from a pure boxing standpoint, Floyd does EVERYTHING better than Shane.....better ring IQ, better defense, countering, better jab....so if Manny was struggling to land his offense much throughout the fight, Floyd would have a field day with him.... Its funny watching Pac stans resorting to saying "Floyd was hurt, while Manny hurt SHane, so he was better".......each event lasted about two minutes in each fight....outside those incidents, Floyd was much more in control of the fight than Manny...... Be honest with yourself....Pacs only chance is to hit Floyd with a vicious shot in the early rounds........

LOL at pac fans trying to make excuses by saying Shane ran the whole fight.......he only started "running" after the wrongly ruled knock down..... For most rounds, he was within range and using movemnt and was able to make Manny miss shots.........the problem Mosley had is that he couldnt pull the trigger and for some reason didnt want to use his right hand....... Stop acting like Manny chased him the whole fight and he was running..........unlike the face first brawlers Manny has been fed, Mosley knew to get out of range once Manny increased the pressure, unlike Hatton, Margarito and Oscar, who just stood there and allowed Manny to tee off.....

Considering how Robert Garcia decided to retire relatively early in his career because he didnt want to take too much punishment.....I would have thought he would have understood the situation better and threw in the towel.......considering how that was only Margarito's 2nd fight after the suspension

We all know that Wlad has improved greatly since he hooked up with manny Steward....but we also know that before that time, Wlad had a terrible chin and only decent defense...... Wlad is most likely thankful that he never had to face a Mike Tyson before he became primed....I doubt he would still be boxing........it would have been brutal...

Now I know that some fighters have styles that aren't for everybody, but I was interested to know peoples opinions... The reason I ask this question is becasue Tunney seems to think watching Floyd Mayweather puts him to sleep, which is fine , his style aint for everybody, but he also thinks that Wlad is more exciting, because he stops his opponents..... I'm surprised some people consider Floyd Mayweather exciting. :dunno: Watching him fight puts me to sleep. That's the ONLY Wlad fight that went the distance since 2006. Byrd, Brock, Thompson, Brewster, Austin, Rahman, Chagaev, Chambers, Peter were all stopped. Although Ibragimov was just trying to NOT get KOed but not to win, and that's why it lasted 12 rounds, the haters keep bringing it up. In contrast, Floyd has had only one fight that DIDN'T go the distance during that time. He boxer Baldomir, Judah, Marquez and Mosley to boring decision wins. Seems there's a double standard. So, given the choice, who would you rather watch fight, Wlad or Floyd.....

Khan spars with possibly the one of the ATG southpaws in Manny.......and he still struggled to get his offense going against a C class fighter who kept his hands down

Considering Klit fans claim that Vitaly's two losses don't count (especially the Byrd fight, ironically)....can Solis claim this fight doesn't count as he was injured, as opposed to actually losing the fight

I mean a 40 year old Briggs could withstand the hardest heavyweight puncher of all time in Vitaly...who manages to KO guys with grazing shots to the temple.......

Lets face it, Margs has some good wins, but he was never an elite fighter and wont ever be remembered as one.. He is tough though....

anyone there......(burner)

Why is it that many African American boxers past and present have given Pac props for what he has done, but Hopkins and Floyds camp say negative stuff and all of a sudden all blacks are jealous of Pac's success...... Discuss...

I was reading through that racist thread I found this post quit interesting: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8957351&postcount=81 Do you think people would have a different opinion of Paul Williams if he was a Hispanic fighter?

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