Ringo

You can't humble yourself out of being a mega douche unless you found Jesus or lost your money. It's fake.

I wish I was watching this. But since I'm not - I base a completely noncredible guess that Hatton will win. .... Because I want him to. -R.

Hold the **** on. Batista...like...Dave Batista? Like... "The Animal" from WWE? Is Pac gonna tag him in? Because I mean...I might have to lay a bet on Pac... -R.

Its funny how the guy moves to a new weight and comes into the fight 4-6 pounds UNDER the limit, Uses gloves that risk injuring his hands, and Fights in a smaller ring than usual, but you people still hate. Give the man his fucking due. Oscar was bigger, stronger and had EVERY tangible advantage set up in his favor and still couldn't beat Floyd. Sorry to tell some of you, but circling your opponent is a staple of boxing. If you don't like it then go watch some UFC shit. You got the opportunity to see two of the greatest fighters in our era fight a very skilled and close BOXING match and you're still complaining? Floyd is the best "BOXER" to come along in a while. If you don't like his style of fighting then you don't like boxing. I agree that Floyd should get his due. I thought the judges had it just right. Close win, not the beating of Oscar that was promised, but a win. I think he won it in scared fashion and then talked himself up afterwards, but he did win. Also - Oscar was spot-on in his post fight where he said "if I didn't press, there was no fight." Floyd didn't run, he grabbed, ducked, and put himself in a position to not be hit that didn't involve a lot of skill. Speed, yes. Skill, no. Now, on to the reason for the quote - "every tangible advantage" for Oscar would result in HIM being the legal betting favorite. He wasn't, even at a higher weight. Lets give Floyd his due, yes, but lets not overtalk the victory.

I am a DLH fan through and through, and I hope Floyd dies of recurring blood vomiting. However, I had this as a split D in favor of Floyd. I think, sadly, the judges got it right. Oscar fought hard and if he had fought the whole fight like he did rounds 5, 6, 7, he might have come through. Oscar had the will, Floyd had the gas.

Merchant does say good things about some fighters. Watch any of the three Gatti/Ward fights. If Floyd hadn't made a big spectacle of his entrance, talked about his greatness before the fight, said it was all about the fans, etc. then it would be one thing for Merchant to put him on the spot for being boring. But he hyped it and promised a show and he didn't deliver. It takes two, yes, but only one (PBF) did the talking pre-fight, so Merchant was right about asking him if it was a good show. Granted, could have been a little more polite about it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA !!! don't get upset just because Oscar is not interested in beating up floyd. if the fight gets made its because Oscar allowed it floyd has no leverage in the making of the fight no comprehendo ? too much for your brain ? First of all, your handle is "Cyberthugpatrol." Moving past that, how is it that people are suddenly up-in-arms about Oscar "not feeling" the fight and his reason simply being "I don't want to." For the harshest of critics, isn't this a basic mirror image of Floyd's episode with Margarito? "Why does he deserve it" and etc.? Only difference is, Margarito deserves a shot at Floyd, Floyd doesn't necessarily deserve a shot at Oscar.

What will it take? A sniper in the rafters. Seriously though, I don't think Baldy has the hand speed to KO Floyd in the dome, but if he can sling those soup-bones under Floyd's elbows in the early rounds, he has a chance at taking away his wind.

Or #1) He's realizing that he's the only one buying the "I'm the best ever" and "I've never ducked anybody," nonsense, so he's getting out while he still has credibility.

I've watched a few of his fights on WNF/FNF and he does look impressive. He looked really good when he stopped Bronco, but he seems a bit awkward. His style is kind of...I dunno, Mora-ish. (Not that Mora coined a style, just who I liken him to). He's good and strong, but I think he'd lose to Taylor.

DLH-mayorga was pretty bad Agree with this. Oscar had his way with Mayorga.

I heard there were 6 total fights, 5 undercard. Anyone know if the Paul Williams fight is right before Blady/Fairweather?

Honestly, I hate Floyd, but he simply looked better tonight. I don't think at all he ever considered the possibility of knocking out Baldy, but he stuck to a game plan. Hit once or twice and move like hell. I mean, props to him for winning, but I think if he fought like that against someone else who could move, it would have been more exciting. I was really dissapointed. I gave Baldy 2 or 3 rounds, close ones, but that was it. I honestly don't think Baldomir is as slow as he looked tonight, but he was just really off.

I think the question was extremely valid, because the fight was boring as hell. There were probably 2 really exciting moments, but thats not entirely Floyd's fault (I say this because I'm dissapointed in Baldy). Merchant needed to phrase his question a little more respectfully, but there was every right to ask, especially after the pre-fight show PBF put on.

true.. seems like the public can accept dlh saying "im just not feeling it" and not accusing him of DUCKING, but let mayweather say that and its a diffrent story Exactly. Fans (myself included, 'cause I hate Floyd, but I try to be fair) need to realize that ducking is a part of the sport. As a boxer, you have to make decisions based on what is going to earn you money, and get as close to a "sure win" as possible. There's really nothing wrong with it; its part of the game. What I have a problem with is boxers DOING it and SAYING they aren't doing it. If someone just "isn't feeling it," thats fine. Just say it. Don't hate one guy for doing it and then cheer on another (unless he did what DLH did and say it outright.)

The reason Oscar doesn't fight much any more is because he doesn't have to win. Earlier in his career when people were giving him the same kind of crap people give Floyd, he fought big fights and won (with the exception of some). As for the rusty statement, Mayorga thought he'd be rusty, too. Oscar will probably fight again, but whoever it was that said he'll make more promoting than boxing was spot-on. He's a great boxer who has done what a lot of boxers didn't - set up a profitable career that allows him to retire before he gets seriously injured or forced into fighting passed his prime. He's a prime example of a boxer you should respect, Floyd or no Floyd. (So I'm a DLH fan....whatever. :B)

I don't know where all this stuff comes from. I don't think many fight fans have a grasp of the word "speculation." My personal opinion - The better conditioned fighter will win. If Baldy can throw his big shots and keep up with Floyd, he'll win. If Floyd can keep dancing the whole time AND stay away from the big shots, he'll win. Its simple, really. Just as an aside: Baldy looks like a mini Teddy Bruschi from the Patriots...

Any time Gatti fights, I want to see it. I don't care who or where. If he says he can, then he can. Doesn't mean he will win, necessarily, but its hard to find a more exciting boxer, old or not. Plus, I think he has the wisdom in his corner to stop a fight if it got out of hand. They already proved they'd do it despite him begging.

Quite honestly, PBF lookd bored. He epitomized "stick and move." Didn't even bother looking for opportunities; they came to him. Baldy would come forward thinking he could walk through the first volley of punches, but only one or two quick pops would come. Floyd made a few mistakes he wouldn't get away with against a faster fighter, though. Namely, getting backed into a corner. A few times he'd just back up and start swaying, fight-night style. Baldy never touched him, unfortunately, but he wouldn't get away with that fighting someone like Williams.

For the first time since I've posted on these forums, I agree with Dino. I don't care how good Manfredo looked (and he did) against Spina, because Roy Jones would walk through Manfredo. Reason is this - Manfredo is good against slower boxers. Even at his age, Roy Jones outclasses Manfredo hugely with speed. Peter struggled against Mora both times because Mora was faster, RJ by TKO in less than 7.

Seriously, all this fight needed was a amatuer camera man and it would have looked like a run-by ass-kicking from a Jackass episode..

I gave it to Spina for the pressure at the end of the round. Edit: What a right hand by Manfredo. Dont know why he took 4 jabs afterwards, but Spina is eating overhand rights like jellybeans.

Is the Manfredo fight a title fight? Its 12 rounds..

Crap, how did it happen, I missed the end. Edit: Just saw the replay. I must concur with Evil. And that was hilarious.

Pardon my statement. I tend to compare everyone back to the technically sound fights that everyone sees and talks about. Unfair, I guess. I mean that I view continued clinching and breaks as a technical flaw. Lame to me, and I think boxers who resort to it have poor conditioning. Edit: Of course after I post something about technical boxing, the 8th round looks crisp and clean with great technical punching. Figures.

The post-fight is the only reason I don't like Manfredo. He's inconsistently humble. Talks about just business, taking care of his family and doing his job, then he plays himself up like he's been the champ for years. If he had any predictability to his personality in front of a camera, he'd be more likable to me.

hmmm, great technical bout. Mayweather vs. Corrales. Castillo vs. Corrales II. And just for the record, I don't like any of those guys, lol. Edit: Come to think of it, Judah vs. Mayweather also (minus the low blow and cornerman brawl).

rd1 of the green fight down. Green looked steady and in control landing more short hard shots. Ravelo is a tall guy who has seemingly good boxing skills. Pretty even rd 1 . I nodded green for being the aggressor. Green is throwing HARD rd2 Green still the aggressor, rivelo moving and trying to pick his spots. Green makes alot of lunging very hard shots. Rivelo has outstanding reach , but he is very tentative. No one lands real hard pretty even rd, goes to the aggressor, Green. 2-0 green rd3 Ravelo again shows good boxing skills, this guy is a very respectable boxer, mover for his size. Green walking him down, throwing those short, very hard hooks. I think Allan Green throws that short leftinside hook harder than anyone in the sport right now. Ravelo landded some good jabs in rd3 and had good ring generalship. gave rd 3 to ravelo, but it was close. Neither guy ;anding much hard or handling the rd easy. rd4 Green more active throwing a larger quantity of hard shots. Ravelo looks to still be afraid of greens power, been like this since rd 1. Rivelo beat lacy in the ams, you can see his good boxing skill. Green takes rd 4 by landing the cleaner harder shots. But Rivelo is a competitive guy rd5 green pressures rivelo to the ropes. Again fighting the rougher of the 2. Rivelo holds on quite a bit early in the rd. Lots of clinching, the referee is very busy. Green looks somewhat lazy tonight for whatever reason. It might be that rivelo is just giving him a difficult look. Green did dig the body a few times clean in rd 5, enough to win the rd. 4-1 green on my card Thanks for the updates, Cold. I'm watching this as we speak, but this fight sucks. Technically, these guys are clowns.

I agree but only partially. The series is good for the sport and reality TV has been hot since survivor. This season's series was really good, with a decent story and such, but the finale lacked punch, to have a pun. I think the better way to go for the contender would be to have amatuer fighters fight a tourney for a pro contract with a promoter. This way, the big heads and attitudes are avoided. Personally, I like Mora and his attitude, but thats me. The dissapointing thing about the way the contender is now (this season particularly) is that the champ (Brewer) has nowhere to go. He's old enough to have accomplished something already, and hasn't. Find the young, high-ranked amatuers who want their shot and do it that way. Edit: The UFC reality show does this, and I think its the best way because it gives the guys the opportunities to make something for themselves in the business, not tout them as champions before their time.

jabs? right hands?(left) hooks? uppercuts? body shots? what do u think,i spose it all depends on ur style,but what do u feel is most effective for u? This question is a bit vague. If you mean "The most effective punch in boxing for knock outs," then its either an uppercut or hook, regardless of hit location. Reason for this is because they carry the highest force-to-momentum ratio in relation to your first and the other guy's movement. Note: I'm not speaking of the "inside" version of these two punches, but rather the hip-twisting version that occurs at medium distance and is executed appropriately with regards to time. If you mean "what is the most effective point-scoring punch in boxing," then the jab is the easy answer. As someone said earlier, it disrupts timing, sets up punches, and its the easiest to land.