Im 27 so for me it was watching Tyson beat the living crap out of everyone in the late 80's and early 90's and also watching Chavez brutalize fighters. My father always watched those fights and my uncle boxed a little when he was younger so thats what got me into boxing. Later on it was De La Hoya, everytime he fought the whole family got together and either had a carne asada or ordered some pizzas and just watched him fight.
Good memories!
Yes, he is. Amir is gonna be competing at 147 in 2012. GAURANTEED.
It's not fair. This way Amir will never become unified 140 champion.
"GAURANTEED" ???????????
Use your head like Khan did in his last fight and spell guaranteed correctly.
How do you like the taste of your own medicine ?
Some skilled boxers telegraph punches on purpose but it's called a feint. You feint when you want your opponent to think you're going to do a certain thing just to get him to react to the feint then you pop him with the real shot once he takes the bait. But what would this guy know about that since he has chains that attack evil demonic clowns. GTFOH with that sh!t Spawn!
A fat out of shape and past his prime James Toney would feint this thespian out of his socks if he ever got in the ring and fought instead of talking on the set of one of his Oscar worthy movies!
I don't know why this guy is wasting his time giving such "valuable" advice away for free. Instead of acting and making whatever amount of money he makes for his "amazing" acting skills he should just become a pro boxer and whoop everyone and make millions in the process since it should be easy for him since according to this "expert" boxers don't know how to punch!
I find it kind off funny that this is an actor talking to a street brawler about how pro boxers don't know how to punch!
The guy seems to be pretty big, maybe a cruiserweight or a small heavyweight but I would bet almost anything that a 175 pound Hopkins beats the Sh!t out of him.
This actor should stick to making straight to DVD movies!
Without a doubt Pernell Whitaker is the greatest of all time as far as southpaws and he's top 5 of all time on the G.OA.T. list as well.
Pacquiao and Hagler are also great but "Sweet Pea" is king when it comes to southpaws!
I wonder which one of the two would reach their breaking point and crack mentally and end up giving up, quitting or crying. We might get lucky and get a leap in headbutt that doesnt find its target and Ortiz ends up flying out the ring and is followed by Kermit leaping out of the ring as well to avoid the headbutt.
Then they both get taken to the hospital with neck braces but the difference is Cintron will be acting pist off hitting the stretcher while Ortiz will be smiling and waiving at people while making the "hang loose" sign with his other hand with a big ol cheeser on his face.
Simultaneous ring dives by these two would be priceless to see. I say make the fight.
Cmon man, is this a serious question? Sweet Pea wins "11 out of 10" times at any weight too. I can see PAC asking Roach "what should I do coach" by like round 4 and Roach answering "stop fighting his fuc&ing fight" then by like round 8 PAC having a discouraged look on his face and Roach being reduced to inspirational talk and having no strategic advise for PAC at all because both would suffer miserably at trying to solve the puzzle that was a prime Pernell Whitaker!
Worst possible style match up for PAC!!!
Of course he fought a shot Tyson, that's common knowledge kind of like when Calzaghe fought a shot Jones?
And no I don't think Lewis could have beaten a prime Tyson not the Tyson that Cus D'Amato was training.
Are you talking about Eastern Euro's or all Europeans?
How is this guy robotic?
http://i33.tinypic.com/2zqv2bc.jpg
He only looked like that because that was an old shot jones, had it been a prime jones he would have never made it out of the first round especially since he got dropped!
To all my good hearted boricuas on here I have nothing but respect and love for you and because of people like you I will not talk **** about all boricuas and for border patrol......GOD bless you homie and this is coming from a Mexican. I'm light skinned but so what? Does that make me better than a person who isn't? Does having Native blood somehow make you less human or make you less than a European? I'm not going to inform you on the difference between nationality and race because I'm sure you know. You seem to know alot about alot of different subjects so I can tell that you're smart. You claim to look at things from a psychological perspective so that takes intelligence so im wondering how with all that intelligence you haven't been able to figure out that you suffer from the worst sickness humanity has..........deep rooted hatred in your soul!
GOD bless you & I mean that!
Look buddy, before you continue to embarrass yourself any further, I suggest that you go and try to watch as many fights of SRR as you possibly can, do some research, catch up on your boxing history,do something!!!
Then go and do some research on SRL as well because it seems that you have no fuc&ing clue which one is which and much less about boxing!
I'm not insinuating, I'm flat out telling you, Pacquiao would not beat Leonard, matter of fact he would more than likely get knocked out. You are painfully stupid if you believe otherwise! And as for Your comment on PAC vs DLH, nobody knew that a walking corpse version of DLH would show up weighing 143 on fight night with IV marks on his arms. If the version of DLH that even Floyd fought would have showed up that night then we wouldn't even be having this little discussion. Even worse if the Oscar that fought Chavez at 140 when he was in his prime then he KOs PAC.
You're talking about people saying that if PAC moved up from 135 to fight hatton that hatton would have his number? Well what people are you talking about because the only people I heard saying crap like that were the super annoying hatton fans that didn't know sh!t about boxing just like you with you're comments about SSR not doing to Hatton what PAC did!
Duran has become God because he outpointed SRL. At WW, Pac would very have likely have beaten SRL on points but would be more clear cut than Durans win.
Also i dont think SRR would have stopped Morales, and be as dominating as Pac was against, DLH, Diaz, Hatton, Clottey, Cotto and Margarito, making them all look like elephant men. Duran made moore look like elephant man once and people make a big deal of that win? But he only managed it cos he closed the eye of Moore.
Some of the performances SRRs gets credit for, of course Pac would very likely have matched them as well. In the past people kept trying to tell us what Pac couldnt do, and he made people eat their words. So people learnt from their mistakes, not to underestimate. And they dont now.
First of all, I just want to ask you a question........are you ok, are you all there in the head? I just want to make sure that you're not "special" before I say anything!
Because if you're not "special" then I must say that what you posted has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life, THE DUMBEST!
You can bet your life on it that from now on you will not be taken seriously by anyone on this site anymore. Youre talking about Sugar Ray Robinson buddy, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON!!! **** PAC couldn't beat Sugar Ray Leonard and youre talking about PAC doing better than Sugar Ray Robinson???
I've thought about it and I'm sorry because there's no way that you're all there in the head. You have to be retarded, you have to be.
Some people make it so obvious that they don't know their boxing history that's it's just plain sad to see them even ask such ****! Pacquiao although a great fighter & an all time great has flaws like most fighters & those 3 fighters you named would exploit those flaws to the point where I believe all three would not only beat him but by KO.
I know that some of you guys on here are diehard PAC fans & naturally because of it are biased in his favor to the point where somebody actually made a thread that PAC is better than Sugar Ray Robinson which (SMFH & sadly too) is indicative of how little if any that person knows about boxing since Sugar Ray Robinson would beat all three in Leonard,Hearns,& Duran & those 3 would beat PAC.
Let's see I'll break it down one by one starting with Hearns. Do you guys remember how much trouble Morales gave PAC in their first fight because of his use of a long & steady jab everytime PAC moved forward to disrupt his rhythm & then pop him with a right cross? Well if you know anything about Hearns then you would know that he would keep PAC at his desired range & the moment PAC tried coming inside he would be disconnected from his senses by one punch......Hearn's murderous right cross! If you guys think PAC is heavy handed believe me when I tell you that he aint got **** on Hearns because Hearns was a monster puncher who ranks really high on the all time punchers list. Remember that one punch KO of Hatton by PAC well Hearns has one just like that but his victim was Duran & with one right cross. I like PAC but Hearns brutally KO's him inside of 6 rounds.
If he fought Duran it would be one of the best wars ever because they both just love fighting & it would be his most competitive fight because Duran would just flat out try to maul him but Duran had really good head movement unlike Hatton. I say PAC does well but due to accumulation of punishment gets KO'd late in the fight or Roach stops the fight. PAC would be facing an animal who loves to fight more than he does & that's something he's never seen. The thing about Duran is that not only did he love to fight but he was a mean & I really mean "mean ass" mother****er,he was menacing,rude,intimidating but was born to fight. Duran is one fighter who would psychologically beat the warrior out of PAC in the first few rounds & he would be the one to walk down PAC the same way PAC walked down Cotto! Duran stops PAC late or the Roach throws in the towel, matter of fact Roach even has said that Duran beats PAC.
Now onto Ray Leonard, if Marquez gave PAC hell with superior technique & counterpunching Leonard would just outclass PAC,he would frustrate the **** out him then when PAC got reckless due to the frustration he would pick him apart. He would really exploit PAC's flaws. Everytime PAC attacked he would wait for PAC to get off balance & drop him with slick ass counterpunches. Leonard not only was a superb pure boxer/counterpuncher but he also punched pretty damn hard & to top it off he was slick like a snail in a barrel of oil so hell no PAC does not beat him. Leonard was a sharpshooter with stamina & he would KO PAC late as well.
Now I know that you didnt ask about Sugar Ray Robinson but since I saw some idiot make a thread about PAC being better than him I figured I would enlighten that genius because I'm sure he'll read this thread since it concerns PAC. Robinson at 147 is considered thee absolute best fighter to ever lace them up ever! Way before all these alphabet titles ****ed up boxing Robinson was actually cleaning out entire divisions & the moving up to fight the best each division had to offer. Robinson was a tall,fast,murderous puncher with either hand & an iron chin. He could box,brawl,counterpunch do what ever you wanted to do & if it didn't work as well as he wanted to then he would just try to kill you flat out. Walk right to you & give you his signature 3 or 4 punch body attack & then try to take your head off because he finished that combination with hooks to the head. Remember how PAC sliced up Margarito with speed but couldn't knock him out with one shot? Well Robinson started boxing at 126 or 130 & was knocking out middleweights later in his career with one shot! & I'm talking about middleweights of that Era. Robinson would KO both Duran & Hearns for sure because of their aggression & Leonard might go the distance because of how slick he is but Robinson still beats him just ask Leonard. Muhammad Ali has said that he is the greatest heavyweight of all time but that the best fighter of all time pound for pound ever is Sugar Ray Robinson!
Robinson vs PAC ? Robinson kills him, ruins him too!
Just a comment for Hugh Grant/Bert Sugar! LOL!
I've heard people complain about how PAC always loses fantasy matchups against other all time greats............well look at who you're pitting him in against; Robinson,Leonard,Duran,Hearns,Chavez,Hagler,Pryor,Whitaker I mean c'mon man were real boxing fans not just one fighters fans. We know our boxing because some of us train as well as follow the sport since we were kids so we know of just how good some of the old timers were unlike all the new "fan boys" who know 1 fighter and have been following boxing since PAC beat an old DLH. And I'm not excluding the overly passionate Floyd fans either who also think he's the Goat which he is clearly not!
Somebody earlier posted that you were digging your own grave, I disagree, I think your done digging, just jump in already!
Neither PAC or Floyd could have beaten Robinson, they both get stopped!
Some times i wonder why the Mexicans here just want us to lay down and not say a word as if they would do the same ???? I haven't seen it. I rarely post but I'm always reading the back and forth BS. I can say el20 rides around LA in his 62 Impala on 8'inch 100 spoke rims..hydraulics Khaki pants and one of those sick ass Baseball jerseys that say Cholo on it right ??? But ill refrain or I can say that the only time Italians throw fist is when they are dancing on the Jersey Shore cause thats the only place they win battles....but i wont.
Anyway i agree with alot on both sides..Mexico/Puerto rico....then USA
Look, everybody here just talks sh!t and I could too but what for? To just anger a person I don't even know and keep this bullsh!t going? Nah I'm cool but anyways going back to the topic of who is respected the most, well if you've been following the thread since the beginning you'll notice that almost everyone has stated that Mexico gets the most respect and that's something that you can't debate. That may anger some of you but it shouldn't because all the guy wanted to know was who was the most respected by the other posters. He got his answer.......Mexico!
Much love to all my objective people!
Some of my favorite fighters that I like that aren't mexicans are:
Miguel Cotto (gentleman & a warrior)
Sergio Martinez (gentleman & a warrior)
Ivan Calderon (gentleman & boxing genius)
Ricardo Mayorga (hilarious & entertaining)
The Peterson brothers (touching story)
Nonito Donaire (gentleman & a killer)
Manny Pacquiao (gentleman & beast)
Lucian Bute (gentleman & great body puncher)
Marcos Maidana (gentleman & an animal)
Floyd Mayweather (most intelligent boxer Ive ever seen)
Bernard Hopkins (very intelligent & efficient )
Mosley is one of my favorites as was Sugar Ray Leonard and Iron Mike. As for Mexican fighters, I just can't get into the club fighter mentality.
You mean that mentality that was displayed when Salido put that beating on Juanma? Or the mentality that Segura showed when he walked down and smashed Calderon? Or how about the mentality that Chavez had when he mopped the floor with Rosario and Camacho? That mentality? I would mention Margarito vs Cotto but I'm an honest man and I can't give Margs credit for that for obvious reasons.
You can't get into the club fighter mentality? Why dont you just be a man and say what you really feel..........that you HATE Mexicans and that you won't waste any chance you get to talk badly about us. See I've been on this site lately and I always saw you just talking sh!t. At first I gave you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you were just upset because some ignorant Mexican posters had talked sh!t about Ricans and that you were simply retaliating but the more I read your comments, I'm starting to realize that you are just rotten inside with pure hatred towards my people.
The guy who posted was asking a positive question to see some positive feedback from the objective and cool Mexican and rican fans. Nobody was saying anything negative, everything was cool then you show up spewing your stupid crap. You talk as if it's a bad thing to have balls and to want to force your opponent to throw down with you toe to toe. You try to degrade the fighting style of most Mexican boxers but yet boxing history shows that most of your greatest fighters have succumbed to our fighters. You see most Mexican boxers have a "you're going to have to kill me to beat me" mentality and somehow to your dumb a$$ that's a club fighter mentality?
Didn't one of your greatest fighters in Trinidad fight with that same exact mentality? Didn't Trinidad just love to brawl toe to toe? Didn't another one of your greats in Wilfredo Gomez also have that mentality,didn't he also just love to brawl as well? I guess that makes them Ricans with a "club fighter mentality" as well by your logic! Don't you guys have a young fighter named Rocky Martinez who fights with that mentality?
You're quick to label all Mexican boxers as face first sluggers who just want to bang but if you knew your boxing history you would know that there are also many counterpunchers, boxer-punchers, pure boxers and everything in between just like in your fighters. Weve had excellent master boxers/counterpunchers like Salvador Sanchez, "Finito" Lopez & JMM Marquez, we've had face first pressure fighters who love to bang like Margarito & Segura, we've had intelligent elusive pure boxers like Miguel Canto, we've had murderous body punchers like Chavez & Olivares, we've had boxer-punchers like De La Hoya, Montiel, Morales. As you can see we've had every single style of boxer. What you call "club fighter mentality" we call having balls & liking to scrap, we enjoy it. Just because it's not in you doesn't mean you should talk negatively about those who do have it.
I want you to remember this.......EVERYBODY loves to watch Mexican boxing because you're almost 100% guaranteed that you will get a great fuc&ing fight, even my puerto rican friends admit it. No matter how much hatred you spew you will not change the facts that we rank higher than you guys do in the all time lists & that your greatest fighters have lost to Mexican fighters! If you don't believe me look up the 100 or 50 greatest fighters of all time and read it & weep! It doesn't matter where you look up the info or who's list wether it be (espn,the ring,or any other place) our fighters rank higher than yours & that's a fact. JCC Chavez, Salvador Sanchez, and even the legendary Roberto Duran (who's father was Mexican) rank higher than your fighters.
I actually feel sorry for you honestly, because as smart as you try to pass yourself off as with your quick little remarks and bullsh!t statistics or your claims about how you dwell into the psychological aspects of a fighters psyche and how you are so quick to judge somebody by talking about their so called insecurities and how you claim to be so full of confidence but yet YOU are the one who constantly puts up half naked pictures of your lady online to what? To prove that you have a girl? To try and convince people that your lady is attractive? To show that you get quick headjobs in between racist rants?
And YOU of all people are talking about insecurities???????
Huh Mr. Confidence?????
To all my goodhearted Boricuas much love & respect!
Carlos Molina is a very good fighter. He is crafty, seems to have a very good chin, and has balls. The guy likes to fight and throws combinations plus doesn't seem to tire much. If he would get with a trainer like a Nacho Beristain to perfect his technique and teach him more diverse combinations, F U C K !, imagine how much better he could be. If I was a promoter like lets say Golden Boy, I would get him a conditioning coach, a nutrionist, and hire Beristain as his trainer and sign him to 3 fight deal. If the guy is good enough to beat JCC Jr twice, Erislandy Lara, and Kermit Cintron without a top notch team he must be pretty damn good. Plus the guy is mexican so they can count on the huge support the mexican fans bring to the table.
Looks legit to me! After reading all the posts before the video came up I was beginning to think that the guy just took a dive but after watching the video I see a guy who got caught with a hard right hand right on the chin and I mean dead on right on the tip of the chin. Most people are upset because they wanted to see it go more rounds and I understand that but if a guy gets caught right on the button, what's he gonna do?
If this guy was knocked out, then who took his mouth piece out and placed it perfectly on his chest?
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME PLEASE?
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Probably the ref. Haven't you seen refs take boxers mouth pieces out when they're laid out? They usually do it so the boxer can breathe. As you can see in the video above, the ref instructs Marquez to a neutral corner and starts making his way over to the guy on the floor and in the shot of the guy laying on the floor you can see a guy with black slacks right over him.
At heavyweight? Its either Ali or Joe Louis.
Now as far as the greatest ever in any weight class its Sugar Ray Robinson, even Ali and Leonard will tell you that.
So maybe what Roy Jones said about Green and the gloves in their fight has some truth to it?
If this is true then Green and his team are a bunch of low life cheating idiots.
If its true!
Floyd will weigh in between 150 to 155 on fight night. Anything heavier and he would be sacrificing some speed and against Pac he cant afford that. Pac will weigh in on fight night about 148.